Is a song of ice and fire ok to read or is it a sin

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i want to read a song of ice and fire but dont know if its ok to read it or if it is a sin.
 
potatos said:
i want to read a song of ice and fire but dont know if its ok to read it or if it is a sin.
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I’m not sure if it is sinful per se, but it is not like other more frequently recommended series such as The Lord of the Rings. I would say that there is a much greater chance for it to influence sinful behaviour perhaps? (there is pretty consistent gratuitous sex scenes, violence and very frequent swearing if I remember correctly throughout), so maybe think extra carefully about it before starting, and if you feel it is having a negative effect simply stop.

On an artistic level, there are better series out there.
 
Matt90 said:
I’m not sure if it is sinful per se, but it is not like other more frequently recommended series such as The Lord of the Rings. I would say that there is a much greater chance for it to influence sinful behaviour perhaps? (there is pretty consistent gratuitous sex scenes, violence and very frequent swearing if I remember correctly throughout), so maybe think extra carefully about it before starting, and if you feel it is having a negative effect simply stop.

On an artistic level, there are better series out there.
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iv already read lotr and i own it. i will not be influenced by it either
 
potatos said:
iv already read lotr and i own it. i will not be influenced by it either
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:doh2: And I just had a rant on this earlier today… In short, Lord of the Rings is comparable to Narnia in allegory. LotR has less but better allegory (Tolkien never could stand it :rolleyes:), whereas Narnia feels like I’m being hit over the head with a metaphorical sledgehammer, there’s so much
Matt90 said:
I’m not sure if it is sinful per se, but it is not like other more frequently recommended series such as The Lord of the Rings. I would say that there is a much greater chance for it to influence sinful behaviour perhaps? (there is pretty consistent gratuitous sex scenes, violence and very frequent swearing if I remember correctly throughout), so maybe think extra carefully about it before starting, and if you feel it is having a negative effect simply stop.

On an artistic level, there are better series out there.
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I’ve read the first few. If you find yourself prone to sexual sins, it might not be a good idea to read. But from what I’ve read, it’s not as common as people make it out to be. It’s a good plot; it’s just there are parts mainly of Tyrion’s chapters I wish I could skip. All that said, I don’t think I’d let myself watch the show
 
Razanir said:
Narnia feels like I’m being hit over the head with a metaphorical sledgehammer, there’s so much
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To be fair Narnia is a series of children’s books, while LOTR was written for adults.
 
Razanir said:
:doh2: And I just had a rant on this earlier today… In short, Lord of the Rings is comparable to Narnia in allegory. LotR has less but better allegory (Tolkien never could stand it :rolleyes:), whereas Narnia feels like I’m being hit over the head with a metaphorical sledgehammer, there’s so much

I’ve read the first few. If you find yourself prone to sexual sins, it might not be a good idea to read. But from what I’ve read, it’s not as common as people make it out to be. It’s a good plot; it’s just there are parts mainly of Tyrion’s chapters I wish I could skip. All that said, I don’t think I’d let myself watch the show
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what exactly do you mean by sexual sins are you talking about masterbating because iv never done that if not explain please
 
I’ve read all the books so far and I have to say at first the books are fairly innocuous…but as the series progresses it becomes more and more nihilistic and unnecessarily brutal in my opinion.
I am prone to sexual sins so I don’t watch the tv series and I don’t believe I will continue to read the books even if he does eventually get around to publishing the next one.
All in all it’s a pretty good plot, but if you don’t enjoy books where literally every good character gets killed or turned into a nihilistic dick then you can safely pass on these books.
 
Just a reminder to other posters who have read the books, don’t post spoilers for those who haven’t.
 
Razanir said:
:doh2: And I just had a rant on this earlier today… In short, Lord of the Rings is comparable to Narnia in allegory. LotR has less but better allegory (Tolkien never could stand it :rolleyes:), whereas Narnia feels like I’m being hit over the head with a metaphorical sledgehammer, there’s so much
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This is because the two authors were friends and were writing these series as a contest against each other about who could best integrate Catholicism into their fantasy books.

You should not be influenced by the violence but by the messages these stories hold.
 
DevotedChild said:
This is because the two authors were friends and were writing these series as a contest against each other about who could best integrate Catholicism into their fantasy books.
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Maybe Christianity, Lewis wasn’t Catholic.
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You should not be influenced by the violence but by the messages these stories hold.
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I don’t think that’s what they meant, the complaint was that the allegory was too overt, whereas Tolkien’s was more subtle.
 
anp1215 said:
Maybe Christianity, Lewis wasn’t Catholic.
I don’t think that’s what they meant, the complaint was that the allegory was too overt, whereas Tolkien’s was more subtle.
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Lewis was a convert. Tolkien convert him. And i know that Lewis’s allegory was to overt but it just shows the difference in the two author’s styles.
 
DevotedChild said:
Lewis was a convert. Tolkien convert him. And i know that Lewis’s allegory was to overt but it just shows the difference in the two author’s styles.
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Lewis never became a Catholic. He got close, but he died a Protestant.
 
Fun (well, not so fun, really, but interesting) fact: CS Lewis, JFK, and Aldous Huxley all died on the same day - 11/22/63.
 
Darn it! People beat me to the reply.

Lewis was atheist, but was converted by Tolkien. Much to Tolkien’s dismay, however, Lewis became Anglican. Also, it most certainly wasn’t a contest of writing allegory. Tolkien disliked allegory
 
It is not a sin to read books.

I have read all of the series which has been published so far.

I think George Martin is a great author and the universe, characters and storylines he has created are engaging and satisfying.

My only mild criticism of the books is that I cant help but feel the authors treatment of religion in them conveys (“labours” rather) his own personal dislike of religion (he went to a Catholic school and said he didnt like his time there).

But then, maybe I am over-sensitive and feeling something which isnt really there.

In any case, the books are a cracking read - enjoy. I have thoroughly enjoyed them.

I was really disappointed when I finished reading all the books currently in print - now I have to wait till the next is published, which could take ages!

No way you guys! 😉
 
GWright said:
It is not a sin to read books.

I have read all of the series which has been published so far.

I think George Martin is a great author and the universe, characters and storylines he has created are engaging and satisfying.

My only mild criticism of the books is that I cant help but feel the authors treatment of religion in them conveys (“labours” rather) his own personal dislike of religion (he went to a Catholic school and said he didnt like his time there).

But then, maybe I am over-sensitive and feeling something which isnt really there.

In any case, the books are a cracking read - enjoy. I have thoroughly enjoyed them.

I was really disappointed when I finished reading all the books currently in print - now I have to wait till the next is published, which could take ages!

No way you guys! 😉
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i was just wondering because of the sex parts i heard of in the book and couldnt it be a sin to read some books like 50 shades of gray
 
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