Is All Saints day a holy day of obligation this year?

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It falls on a Monday this year. I have heard conflicting reports. :confused: Can you confirm this for me.

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It was listed in our bulletin yesterday that it is indeed NOT a Holy Day of Obligation this year.
 
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Regi:
It was listed in our bulletin yesterday that it is indeed NOT a Holy Day of Obligation this year.
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No, because it lands on a Monday.

Note Dec 8th the Immaculate Conception is because it lands on a Tuesday. (in the U.S.)
 
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No, because it lands on a Monday.

Note Dec 8th the Immaculate Conception is because it lands on a Tuesday. (in the U.S.)
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Also, because our country is under her patronage, the solemnity of the Immaculate Conception is always a day of obligation when it falls on 8-Dec. (In 2002 the solemnity was transferred to Mon 9-Dec by the second Sunday of Advent, but the obligation did not translate – I thought that was kind of whacky :whacky: )

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johnq:
It falls on a Monday this year. I have heard conflicting reports. :confused: Can you confirm this for me.
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How absurd that Catholics are this confused by their post-conciliar churchmen. Our Traditional priest clearly informed us from the pulpit yesterday that, of course, it is a holy day of obligation.

But you will continue to be confused by the lyrics put into your mouths, by the impious positions you are forced to adopt when receiving our Lord, by what is or is not a sin, and by which days are holy days of obligation as long as you remain in communion with the bishops who have lost the faith. How can you expect it to be otherwise? – Sincerely, Albert Cipriani the Traditional Catholic
http://www.geocities.com/albert_cipriani/index.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligiousPhilosophy/
 
albert cipriani:
How absurd that Catholics are this confused by their post-conciliar churchmen. Our Traditional priest clearly informed us from the pulpit yesterday that, of course, it is a holy day of obligation.
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And how equally absurd to suggest that the legitimate excercise of the authority of the Magisterium is not sufficient to abrogate the obligation:
Can. 1246 §2. With the prior approval of the Apostolic See, however, the conference of bishops can suppress some of the holy days of obligation or transfer them to a Sunday.
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And how equally absurd to suggest that the legitimate excercise of the authority of the Magisterium is not sufficient to abrogate the obligation:
Can. 1246 §2. With the prior approval of the Apostolic See, however, the conference of bishops can suppress some of the holy days of obligation or transfer them to a Sunday.
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It’s not the bishop’s authority to suppress or abrogate that I object to, but the cofussion they unnecessarily interject into the process. This business of making a holy day non-holy if it falls on a Monday is simply absurd.

Our calendars’ foibles are not the means by which to declare whether or not a holy day is operative. For any given day is actually two different days in this global vilagae of ours. Ergo, the universal Church has made itself that much less universal and rendered itself a house divided by allowing calendar days to decide the holy days of obligation.

I’d have less to complain about if our bishops had the guts to abolish all the holy days of obligation themselves instead of hiding behind the calendar and letting the days of the week effectively do their dirty work for them. – Sincerely, Albert Cipriani the Traditional Catholic
 
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johnq:
It falls on a Monday this year. I have heard conflicting reports. :confused: Can you confirm this for me.

God Bless you!
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Back to the original question: You’d have to check with your diocese on this. Your bishop may have chosen to move the obligation to Sunday or to keep in on Monday.
 
albert cipriani:
It’s not the bishop’s authority to suppress or abrogate that I object to, but the cofussion they unnecessarily interject into the process. This business of making a holy day non-holy if it falls on a Monday is simply absurd.
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I’ll agree with you about the lack of necessity of it all. To be honest, I wish they’d just leave them as holy days. I certainly wouldn’t mind being required to go to Church a little more often.
 
Dr. Colossus:
I’ll agree with you about the lack of necessity of it all. To be honest, I wish they’d just leave them as holy days. I certainly wouldn’t mind being required to go to Church a little more often.
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Indeed!

I think I’ll be there this year, imploring the saints to pray for life.
 
Did the “pre-conciliar” church have local calendars based upon, but differing from, the general calendar? What about extremely local celebrations, like when my parish celebrates her patron as a solemnity rather than the feast that the general calendar designates? Was that done? Was it un-universal?

(I know I’m taking albert’s bait, but I honestly don’t know the answer, having been born a few days after the council’s opening)

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Who would go to Mass on 1-Nov, except that it will be his first day at work in 2 years, and isn’t sure he’ll be able to get away, nor even what the nearest church is nor schedule, but will be **very ** happy to be earning a wage again nonetheless and will be thanking and praising the saints all day long as duties permit – Woo-hoo!
 
Just curious…why is it not a holy day because it’s on Monday? Does that mean there are no Holy days on Monday? :confused:
 
if the holy day falls on a Saturday or Monday the local bishop has the option to lift the Mass obligation for the Holy Day, or the bishops of a country acting together can lift the obligation. There is nothing that prevents you from attending Mass on the holy day and it is highly recommended, but missing Mass would not be a sin.
 
albert cipriani:
How absurd that Catholics are this confused by their post-conciliar churchmen. Our Traditional priest clearly informed us from the pulpit yesterday that, of course, it is a holy day of obligation.

But you will continue to be confused by the lyrics put into your mouths, by the impious positions you are forced to adopt when receiving our Lord, by what is or is not a sin, and by which days are holy days of obligation as long as you remain in communion with the bishops who have lost the faith. How can you expect it to be otherwise? – Sincerely, Albert Cipriani the Traditional Catholic
http://www.geocities.com/albert_cipriani/index.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligiousPhilosophy/
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“What you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and what you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

… should know better than that
 
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puzzleannie:
if the holy day falls on a Saturday or Monday the local bishop has the option to lift the Mass obligation for the Holy Day
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I don’t know that a single local bishop has such authority. Canon 1246 grants authority to the “Episcopal Conference [with the approval of the Apostlic See]”

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bear06:
Back to the original question: You’d have to check with your diocese on this. Your bishop may have chosen to move the obligation to Sunday or to keep in on Monday.
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Yes, this is correct. It depends entirely on the diocese that you live in and what that bishop decided to do.
 
Sir Knight or bear06: Can either of you name a diocese in the US which is retaining All Saints as a day of obligation this year? Thanks.

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bear06:
Your bishop may have chosen to move the obligation to Sunday or to keep in on Monday.
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How can you transfer the obligation to Sunday?. It is already obligatory to attend Mass on Sunday anyways. This is the Church getting lazy in my opinion. Dont we catholics make sacrifices anymore?
 
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