Is "Amoris Laetitia" as dangerous to Church teaching as some claim?

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Just was curious as to opinions on the questioned parts , which some Cardinals have asked for clarity regarding remarried people without annulments in the state of commiting adultery receiving the Eucharist?
 
I think your question is why we need clarification. If certain portions of the document are being interpreted as some are, then yes, it is that dangerous. If those parts are understood as others are reading it, then no, it is not dangerous. I guess one could argue this ambiguity is itself a danger…
 
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I think the question misses the point that it is Church teaching.
 
After reading commentary on the issue I believe not responding to the dubia is a more dangerous issue than the document itself. It feels as if the Cardinals called the Pope to explain how to read the document so they could follow it without breaking church law and simply got the cold shoulder. This is dangerous because if people read it and see heresey, they blame the Pope for heresy (an excuse to call the Pope wrong). If they read it and see that it appears one’s own conscience is the ultimate judge on church law it opens the door for breaking church law under the realm of self moderated morals that have removed time held church rules. With so many oppurtunities to read the document in different manners it could result in different standards between parishes and regions.

(However I am firmly of the opinion that if the Pope says jump I will jump, if he says do something, I will do it. But in the case of silence I will wait for his clarification so I can do what he asks.)
 
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I see it as an approach of legalism vs. an approach of accompaniment.
There are certain Catholics who would rather think in black-and-white terms all of the time, because it’s easier to just throw out rules and stick to definitions.

I admire the approach Francis is taking the church, and no, he is NOT changing doctrine. The fact of the matter is, every single person is at a different stage in life. You can point out that some action is objectively wrong, but if that’s all you do – even if you proceed from there – you do a grave injustice to the person at the heart of the matter.

Even with divorce. Yes, divorce and remarriage is inherently wrong and against Christ. But when you get to real people and real situations, it does indeed become more complicated. Did this person even know what is meant by Christian marriage? Even if they are remarried, what are the psychological and social circumstances that could have led up to this? Is it reasonable to think that a supposed relationship will end, that looks objectively wrong on the outside, without destroying an individual’s life in the process?
 
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Isn’t using a contraceptive responsible ? That’s what they taught me in school.
 
Isn’t using a contraceptive responsible ? That’s what they taught me in school.
Nope, it’s not responsible. Unfortunately, it looks like your education and catechesis was not well formed. :confused:
 
So I’m lost. How are we supposed to avoid having an unwanted pregnancy?
 
No, it is not. The Pope is leading and is true to his office. There are always dissenting voices.

In this case, the repeated calls for certainty betray a lack of faith. One requires faith to live in uncertainty… those with all the answers are the larger danger.
 
how so? humans are not alley cats or rodents- we can control our sexual urges. if you don’t want to be pregnant, don’t have sex.
 
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God seems prone to that sort of thing. Take his second greatest commandment, “Love your neighbor as yourself”. Not likely to happen most of the time, but still he wants it right up front in our mind 😎.

Adultery is one that is put fairly well up front for the married, too, particularly since keeping your commitment would typically be seen as an instance of loving your neighbor as yourself.
 
Such a revolutionary concept in this advanced day and age… >:P
 
Oh, why did you remind me? 😛 They pulled the same type of thing in Star Trek (Enterprise).
 
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