Is an illegitimate child born out of wedlock sovereign or permissively willed?

[GodHeals]

Hi,

I am wondering if an illegitimate child born out of wedlock sovereign or permissively willed? I have heard the word “legal” or “legitimate” are civil law terms and don’t apply to ecclesial law, but both ultimately come from the moral and eternal law. But my point isn’t with that term in as much as what the grave moral evil that the act represents means in relation to God’s will.

We are all made in God’s image and likeness, this cannot change. The act of sex outside of marriage is a grave moral evil, which cannot be imposed on the child and lessen their dignity or value before God. God loves us all equally. The soul of the child may not have come into being without sex outside of marriage, but we cannot know that for sure since the soul might have been born to some other parents inside a valid marriage.

So to say a child is sovereign willed sets up an argument that God would have desired the grave moral evil, which cannot be true. Or to say that the child is permissively willed through a gave moral evil seems to lower the dignity / value of the child before God as compared to those born from a valid marriage and are sovereign willed. Or maybe God’s “type”? of will doesn’t have any effect on our being made in His image and likeness and our dignity before Him as children born in a valid marriage.

Maybe there is a quick explanation to this with regards to moral theology that I have yet to understand.

Thank you for your help.

 

[GodsMissionary]

Jeremiah 1:5 ►

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.

This one line of scripture should tell you the answer. It’s a life God created, and He breathed life into that person before they breathed air in this world, much less how they came into physical being for the brief wisp of limited years we have., An eternal soul, made in His image, and regardless of how they came about in this world, they are created to enter the kingdom of heaven and reside with God forever. Still, any life he brings into the existence has the free will to choose Him, or Not, that’s the bottom line, and no legitimacy or not will change that.

Mothers that have an unwanted pregnancy should keep this in mind, the baby in your womb is already declared a Child of God, and is God’s Child, because God knows him or her, even before you became pregnant. There is no shame in letting them have a full life on this earth, regardless of how they came about, regardless if you have to give them up for adoption or raise them on your own.

 

[Will_B]

As a retired Bishop friend once said
"There are no illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents.

 

[littlenothing]

Where sin is, grace abounds. The Bible says something like that… these children are a beautiful gift from a Father Who loves us even when we sin. If He didn’t will them into existence they wouldn’t be. I think of my child in this way. The gift God gave me to get me back on the straight and narrow.

 

[1ke]

You are correct, God does not will evil. Yes, it would be an example of permissive will.

Also, the suggestion that legitimate and illegitimate are not concepts of Chuch teaching or law is jut silly. The Church uses both terms in canon law.

 

[severus68]

You are correct, God does not will evil. Yes, it would be an example of permissive will.

Also, the suggestion that legitimate and illegitimate are not concepts of Chuch teaching or law is jut silly. The Church uses both terms in canon law.

The term has a historical basis which has been explained more than once on CAF. It is unChristian and morally wrong to stigmatise a child by the use of the term.

 

[GodHeals]

Jeremiah 1:5 ►

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.

This one line of scripture should tell you the answer. It’s a life God created, and He breathed life into that person before they breathed air in this world, much less how they came into physical being for the brief wisp of limited years we have., An eternal soul, made in His image, and regardless of how they came about in this world, they are created to enter the kingdom of heaven and reside with God forever. Still, any life he brings into the existence has the free will to choose Him, or Not, that’s the bottom line, and no legitimacy or not will change that.

Mothers that have an unwanted pregnancy should keep this in mind, the baby in your womb is already declared a Child of God, and is God’s Child, because God knows him or her, even before you became pregnant. There is no shame in letting them have a full life on this earth, regardless of how they came about, regardless if you have to give them up for adoption or raise them on your own.

Thank you for sharing!

 

[GodHeals]

You are correct, God does not will evil. Yes, it would be an example of permissive will.

Also, the suggestion that legitimate and illegitimate are not concepts of Chuch teaching or law is jut silly. The Church uses both terms in canon law.

So permissive will doesn’t lessen the love of God for the child? I mean that wouldn’t even make sense that God wouldn’t love someone less because of their parents decision to participate in bringing that child into the world. And because He can only equally love us consistently, which is not based on anything we did or do.

For some reason it just “FEELS” like God would love a ORDAINED child more than a PERMISSIVE child… why is that?!?

Also, because we are all equal before God… even Blessed Mother Mary, since she is a creation, and not a Creator?