Is an infinity symbol a hidden satanic symbol

[GEddie]

But why would anyone knowingly want to wear a Satanic symbol even if you don’t believe in it??? Those who look at it may think you do! Would you wear a Nazi symbol even if you don’t believe in it??? It isn’t what I believe that makes it evil, it’s what it stands for that’s evil !!! God Bless, Memaw

What about the left-sided swastika, which the Nazis never used, although it resembles their sign?

For that matter, should we forgo the equilateral cross, because it marked Nazi tanks and aircraft?

ICXC NIKA

 

[Bruised_Reed]

But why would anyone knowingly want to wear a Satanic symbol even if you don’t believe in it??? Those who look at it may think you do! Would you wear a Nazi symbol even if you don’t believe in it??? It isn’t what I believe that makes it evil, it’s what it stands for that’s evil !!! God Bless, Memaw

There is a difference between knowing what a symbol represents and embracing what a symbol represents. And there is also being wrong about what a symbol represents. You believing that a symbol is satanic doesn’t make it so.

 

[mommy_k]

No, it is not. It is a combination of the semaphore symbols “N” (the two “arms”) and “I” (the vertical bar). It stands for “Nuclear Disarmament”, and was designed in 1958 by Gerald Holtom, an artist and designer.

So it may be leftie, peacenik, and anti-nuke, but it is not satanic.

A peace symbol is a neros cross. It stands for broken Jew. It was around long before 1958. It is a hidden anti Christian symbol.

 

[mommy_k]

I saw an infinity symbol tattoo with the cross on top of it on a person… That’s when my friend told me what it could be… I have infinity symbol jewelry and looked it up on the internet, and found that it is on tarot cards, and it is used by satanists to do evil things with it.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

I saw an infinity symbol tattoo with the cross on top of it on a person… That’s when my friend told me what it could be… I have infinity symbol jewelry and looked it up on the internet, and found that it is on tarot cards, and it is used by satanists to do evil things with it.

An infinity sign all by itself is not a satanic symbol. It’s a mathematical symbol that suggests something eternal, like love; that’s how I see it used. If some satanists used it then it’s just like any sign or symbol that anyone can adopt (that isn’t a trademark) and call it something else. If it isn’t the whole levithian cross, it’s not satanic. Consider your sources and if they are based on facts, or superstition, or something quasi-intellectual that would probably also suggest that Catholic symbolism is occultic. If it’s a Catholic source? Compare it to an anti-Catholic Christian site and, aside from the Catholic stuff, you will find the content very similar.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

I just want to add another perspective. A relative was looking at a couple of churches when she was engaged (the priest was pastor at both) and she didn’t like one because of the “goat’s heads.” What she saw as goat’s heads were in fact fleur-de-lis adorning the walls of the church. I’ve been there and it’s a beautiful church with a lot of traditional Catholic iconography and symbolism. It’s the kind of church that many brides want because of the setting. Ignorance of something can lead a person to all kinds of funny conclusions or interpretations.

 

[LiamQ]

There is nothing inherently evil in symbols.

I absolutely sympathize with this perspective, I just don’t know if it’s entirely true.

Demons are legalists. If you happen to wear symbols that are closely associated with them, that can be perceived as a sort of door being opened. Don’t forget that the devil prowls about the earth like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

So while it’s true that the symbol itself doesn’t have some sort of inherent power, and while it’s true that one’s intention is important, certain symbols can nonetheless lead to a certain degree of attention. I’m just not sure how much the average person would really be affected by this. It really would depend on one’s attachment to sin, I think. But wearing something on one’s body that’s basically a demon tag is not wise.

I would also say that, if one has a background in the occult, one should be especially careful with this sort of thing. Years of occult practice can distort one’s personality, and one has to regularly renounce satan and any ties one may have permitted to have been formed. Wearing certain symbols is not a good idea in that context.

I wouldn’t urge folks to be fearful, but I also wouldn’t urge them to write off the actual level of demonic activity that surrounds us, and the manifold ways we open ourselves up to it. Knowing the rules of the battle is important.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

I absolutely sympathize with this perspective, I just don’t know if it’s entirely true.

Demons are legalists. If you happen to wear symbols that are closely associated with them, that can be perceived as a sort of door being opened. Don’t forget that the devil prowls about the earth like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

Is that the teaching of the church? How do we know that demons are legalists?

So while it’s true that the symbol itself doesn’t have some sort of inherent power, and while it’s true that one’s intention is important, certain symbols can nonetheless lead to a certain degree of attention. I’m just not sure how much the average person would really be affected by this. It really would depend on one’s attachment to sin, I think. But wearing something on one’s body that’s basically a demon tag is not wise.

Is there anything other than superstition that suggests this about symbols? I agree with you about sin though I don’t think I would word it the way you did.

I would also say that, if one has a background in the occult, one should be especially careful with this sort of thing. Years of occult practice can distort one’s personality, and one has to regularly renounce satan and any ties one may have permitted to have been formed. Wearing certain symbols is not a good idea in that context.

I’ve noticed people who have been involved with the occult are more sensitive to these things but not because they are more susceptible but they are more uncomfortable with it as a reminder. I got rid of a bunch of items that reminded me of someone I was once friends with because it brought back unhappy memories whenever I rediscovered them. Something like that.

I wouldn’t urge folks to be fearful, but I also wouldn’t urge them to write off the actual level of demonic activity that surrounds us, and the manifold ways we open ourselves up to it. Knowing the rules of the battle is important.

So, again, is it actual teaching or something more superstitious? There are promises attached to the scapular and protections with the St. Benedict medal but besides those and other sacramentals, is there something specific attached to items that are supposed to be demonic? I’m wary of attaching power to something like that when it isn’t real. Nor do I want to leave myself open. I am wary because people have tried to tell me that certain things were bad and it made me anxious about things that were neutral or even good.

 

[Katherine438]

I absolutely sympathize with this perspective, I just don’t know if it’s entirely true.

Demons are legalists. If you happen to wear symbols that are closely associated with them, that can be perceived as a sort of door being opened. Don’t forget that the devil prowls about the earth like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

So while it’s true that the symbol itself doesn’t have some sort of inherent power, and while it’s true that one’s intention is important, certain symbols can nonetheless lead to a certain degree of attention. I’m just not sure how much the average person would really be affected by this. It really would depend on one’s attachment to sin, I think. But wearing something on one’s body that’s basically a demon tag is not wise.

I would also say that, if one has a background in the occult, one should be especially careful with this sort of thing. Years of occult practice can distort one’s personality, and one has to regularly renounce satan and any ties one may have permitted to have been formed. Wearing certain symbols is not a good idea in that context.

I wouldn’t urge folks to be fearful, but I also wouldn’t urge them to write off the actual level of demonic activity that surrounds us, and the manifold ways we open ourselves up to it. Knowing the rules of the battle is important.

 

[LiamQ]

Is that the teaching of the church? How do we know that demons are legalists?

I don’t pretend to speak for the Church.

Because of a number of factors, the primary of which is the testimony of exorcists. Much of demonology is actually known because of information gained from exorcism. But I don’t think the Church is dogmatically defining those conclusions, either. The information is usually used to help exorcists and those whom they are ministering to.

The legalism bit is simple enough: even grammatical errors in Latin during exorcism won’t have the same effect as when those grammatical errors are not present.

Is there anything other than superstition that suggests this about symbols? I agree with you about sin though I don’t think I would word it the way you did.

Superstition is simply ascribing to a created thing a power it doesn’t have and which is proper to God alone. No, it is not superstitious to think that some symbols are associated with the demonic, and that using them could be perceived as an invitation. That would be a conclusion of spiritual theology that is either right or wrong. It would not be a superstition.

I’ve noticed people who have been involved with the occult are more sensitive to these things but not because they are more susceptible but they are more uncomfortable with it as a reminder.

People who were involved in the occult are indeed more sensitive to this type of stuff. Part of that has to do with the fact that being involved in things like this can become a temptation in the future, and this is one way in which they are susceptible. Another part of that is that openly trafficking with demons leaves a certain mark on one’s personality, as I alluded to before. Most people don’t become possessed. But they can begin to acquire demonic personality traits. And yet another part of that sensitivity is very simple: folks who have been involved in the occult usually know more about how these things work than those who haven’t been. And this is especially true of those who practiced outright devil worship.

So, again, is it actual teaching or something more superstitious? There are promises attached to the scapular and protections with the St. Benedict medal but besides those and other sacramentals, is there something specific attached to items that are supposed to be demonic? I’m wary of attaching power to something like that when it isn’t real. Nor do I want to leave myself open. I am wary because people have tried to tell me that certain things were bad and it made me anxious about things that were neutral or even good.

Nothing that I have claimed is a dogmatic teaching of the Church, as far as I am aware. But that doesn’t mean that it is therefore superstitious. The opposite of dogma isn’t superstition, right?

The power of the symbols isn’t in the symbol itself, and it isn’t necessarily in what the symbol means to any particular individual. The key is whether or not a particular symbol has been heavily used to basically worship demons with—and whether or not using that symbol in other contexts therefore gives a certain glory to the demon, and whether that action itself is construed as an invitation. It’s really as simple as that. You might tattoo a sigil on your forehead because you think it’s cool. The evil spirit might look at it and have other thoughts. If that symbol is his, he might begin to think he owns you. Should you mortally sin, and thus step our from under God’s authority, he might well be right.

Now, how that plays out in any given scenario differs from person to person. A lot depends on their personality, on their level of holiness, and on what God permits.

It’s absolutely silly to say that doing something like wearing an infinity symbol will lead to possession. But it’s not silly to say that an occultic image might attract special demonic attention. There’s a difference between the two.

Whether or not we should be concerned about it is a judgment call. I personally stay away from these things, because I have been involved in the occult, and I have my reasons. That doesn’t apply to everyone else because not everyone else has my weaknesses, nor I theirs.

Edit: By the way, I somewhat dislike talking about this, and so I’m going to have to bow out of the conversation. But you can absolutely feel free to have the last word, or to PM me should you have further questions or what have you.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

I don’t pretend to speak for the Church.

Because of a number of factors, the primary of which is the testimony of exorcists. Much of demonology is actually known because of information gained from exorcism. But I don’t think the Church is dogmatically defining those conclusions, either. The information is usually used to help exorcists and those whom they are ministering to.

The legalism bit is simple enough: even grammatical errors in Latin during exorcism won’t have the same effect as when those grammatical errors are not present.

Superstition is simply ascribing to a created thing a power it doesn’t have and which is proper to God alone. No, it is not superstitious to think that some symbols are associated with the demonic, and that using them could be perceived as an invitation. That would be a conclusion of spiritual theology that is either right or wrong. It would not be a superstition.

People who were involved in the occult are indeed more sensitive to this type of stuff. Part of that has to do with the fact that being involved in things like this can become a temptation in the future, and this is one way in which they are susceptible. Another part of that is that openly trafficking with demons leaves a certain mark on one’s personality, as I alluded to before. Most people don’t become possessed. But they can begin to acquire demonic personality traits. And yet another part of that sensitivity is very simple: folks who have been involved in the occult usually know more about how these things work than those who haven’t been. And this is especially true of those who practiced outright devil worship.

Nothing that I have claimed is a dogmatic teaching of the Church, as far as I am aware. But that doesn’t mean that it is therefore superstitious. The opposite of dogma isn’t superstition, right?

The power of the symbols isn’t in the symbol itself, and it isn’t necessarily in what the symbol means to any particular individual. The key is whether or not a particular symbol has been heavily used to basically worship demons with—and whether or not using that symbol in other contexts therefore gives a certain glory to the demon, and whether that action itself is construed as an invitation. It’s really as simple as that. You might tattoo a sigil on your forehead because you think it’s cool. The evil spirit might look at it and have other thoughts. If that symbol is his, he might begin to think he owns you. Should you mortally sin, and thus step our from under God’s authority, he might well be right.

Now, how that plays out in any given scenario differs from person to person. A lot depends on their personality, on their level of holiness, and on what God permits.

It’s absolutely silly to say that doing something like wearing an infinity symbol will lead to possession. But it’s not silly to say that an occultic image might attract special demonic attention. There’s a difference between the two.

Whether or not we should be concerned about it is a judgment call. I personally stay away from these things, because I have been involved in the occult, and I have my reasons. That doesn’t apply to everyone else because not everyone else has my weaknesses, nor I theirs.

Edit: By the way, I somewhat dislike talking about this, and so I’m going to have to bow out of the conversation. But you can absolutely feel free to have the last word, or to PM me should you have further questions or what have you.

That’s quite alright. I appreciate your thoughtful response.

 

[Katherine438]

Found this thread very interesting … I guess it’s safe to keep my jewelry simple … a Cross and a Miraculous Medal.

 

[styrgwillidar]

2111 Superstition is the deviation of religious feeling and of the practices this feeling imposes. It can even affect the worship we offer the true God, e.g., when one attributes an importance in some way magical to certain practices otherwise lawful or necessary. To attribute the efficacy of prayers or of sacramental signs to their external performance, apart from the interior dispositions that they demand, is to fall into superstition.

My wife left me, pushed the kids away and kind of made them wonder about love, parental love, God’s love, marriage, commitment and all that.

As a tangible symbol to them I had the wedding rings (ex’s set and mine) melted down together and made into a ring, it has the kids’ birthstones mounted in it.

With an infinity symbol since I tell them ‘I will love you always’.

The kids know I mean it not from the symbol, but how I have conducted myself in regards to them.

So far, no demons have shown up, written, called, emailed, texted or otherwise shown any interest in contacting me. YMMV.

 

[GEddie]

Not to mention, there are 2 mirror image versions of the swastika, and the ancient one is the opposite of the Nazi version.

ICXC NIKA

 

[Memaw]

There is a difference between knowing what a symbol represents and embracing what a symbol represents. And there is also being wrong about what a symbol represents. You believing that a symbol is satanic doesn’t make it so.

Ignoring the fact that it IS a Satanic symbol doesn’t make it not one. Like I said the Devil is laughing his head off at our ignorance at the experience of our children wearing their sign on just about everything!! Our major paper describes it as such, The Cross of Nero- though to most people it is thought a symbol of peace, it is a Satanic broken upside down cross representing the defeat of Christianity. Just look at our world. Our kids are innocently wearing the symbol and isn’t God being forced out of our society. He is using our kids and our ignorance to break us down to accepting it as harmless. Just look around, is this the kind of world you want your kids and grandkids to grow up in!!! God Bless, Memaw

 

[mommy_k]

Ignoring the fact that it IS a Satanic symbol doesn’t make it not one. Like I said the Devil is laughing his head off at our ignorance at the experience of our children wearing their sign on just about everything!! Our major paper describes it as such, The Cross of Nero- though to most people it is thought a symbol of peace, it is a Satanic broken upside down cross representing the defeat of Christianity. Just look at our world. Our kids are innocently wearing the symbol and isn’t God being forced out of our society. He is using our kids and our ignorance to break us down to accepting it as harmless. Just look around, is this the kind of world you want your kids and grandkids to grow up in!!! God Bless, Memaw

Yes.

 

[mommy_k]

I don’t believe these symbols are neutral.

Imho-that’s like saying a ouji board is neutral if you have no evil intention when you use it.