Is an invalid confession a sin?

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This is a cont. of another thread but the question being asked was too different and I didn’t want to derail it too much.

If it is not a sin, then can the non-mortal sins confessed in the invalid confession, be forgiven via the Our Father (since the latter can forgive venial sins).
 
If a confession is invalid because of you lying to the priest, or holding back sins, then yes it is a Mortal Sin. You would have to confess everything again + what you held back + the fact that you lied last time, for a valid confession afterwards. The ‘Our Father’ is for those who have meagre venial sins which need to be forgiven before communion. Don’t expect to murder someone then just turn up at Mass during the prayer.
 
Invalidating a confession is a sin of sacrilege. Definitely one of the nastier ones.
 
If you go to my posts, you can probably find out anything you’d want to know about invalid confessions, and probably some things you don’t.
 
If a confession is invalid because of you lying to the priest, or holding back sins, then yes it is a Mortal Sin. You would have to confess everything again + what you held back + the fact that you lied last time, for a valid confession afterwards. The ‘Our Father’ is for those who have meagre venial sins which need to be forgiven before communion. Don’t expect to murder someone then just turn up at Mass during the prayer.
Is it really only for meager venial sins? Why is the Our Father only for small venial sins and not all of them?
 
ALL mortal sins must be confessed using the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

Yes it is a sin to purposely withhold a mortal sin, then the entire Confession is invalid.

Anyone in the state of Mortal Sin may not receive the Holy Eucharist until they make a good confession, otherwise they commit an additional mortal sin of Sacrilege.
 
You need to remember that you are not confessing to your priest. He is being used as an instrument of Christ in the confessional. Essentially, when you are dishonest in confession, you are being dishonest in front of Christ Himself. Which is useless to begin with, because He already knows everything you’ve done, why you did it, and why you’re now lying about it. After all, He is God. An invalid confession is definitely a sin and you need to be absolved of that in your next confession. I don’t believe you can accept communion until this is resolved.
 
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If it is not a sin, then can the non-mortal sins confessed in the invalid confession, be forgiven via the Our Father (since the latter can forgive venial sins).
this question makes no sense.
are you asking if your confession is invalid when you deliberately withhold mortal sins, yes it is and you are not absolved of any sin, moreover are guilty of the additional sin of sacrilege. That does not mean forgetting, not knowing the actual gravity of a sin. That means you know it was a mortal sin, or thought it was, and deliberately refused to confess it.

If you mean, the sacrament was invalid because the priest did not use the proper words or actions, if you intended to confess and did not know there was a problem, you are forgiven. If you realize he did not perform it correctly, ask him immediately to correct it, or go to confession to another priest.

If you mean, I thought the sin was mortal, and I withheld it, but later found out it was only a venial sin, were my sins absolved? No probably not because you had no intention to confess all known mortal sins.

It is btw nearly impossible not to know whether a sin is mortal if you have taken seriously your obligation to become educated on Catholic moral teaching. There are dozens of books and sites to help you examine your conscience so there is no excuse. If you have to ask yourself in a particular situation: “Did I do a mortal sin?” the answer is almost always NO especially for a young person, because mortal sin requires full knowledge as well as full free will consent. No knowledge. No sin. But if you don’t know the answer you have an obligation to find out asap, preferably by asking the priest in confession.
 
If a confession is invalid because of you lying to the priest, or holding back sins, then yes it is a Mortal Sin. You would have to confess everything again + what you held back + the fact that you lied last time, for a valid confession afterwards. The ‘Our Father’ is for those who have meagre venial sins which need to be forgiven before communion. Don’t expect to murder someone then just turn up at Mass during the prayer.
It’s not the “Our Father” that removes the venial sins - it’s the prayers at the beginning of Mass called the “penitential rite”. If you say the penitential prayer with true contrition for you venial sins they are forgiven. Not that saying the “Our Father” is a bad thing, it’s just not what grants the forgiveness.
 
It’s not the “Our Father” that removes the venial sins - it’s the prayers at the beginning of Mass called the “penitential rite”. If you say the penitential prayer with true contrition for you venial sins they are forgiven. Not that saying the “Our Father” is a bad thing, it’s just not what grants the forgiveness.
I think the Summa proves that the “Our Father” can forgive venial sins.

Secondly, because they imply a movement of detestation for sin, and in this way the general confession i.e. the recital of the Confiteor or of an act of contrition, the beating of one’s breast, and the Lord’s Prayer conduce to the remission of venial sins, for we ask in the Lord’s Prayer: “Forgive us our trespasses.”

So it seems that in this passage the logic runs counter to the order of how the words are written -that is, because the Lord’s Prayer asks to “Forgive us our trespasses”, then the general confession is capable of forgiving venial sins.
 
I think the Summa proves that the “Our Father” can forgive venial sins.

Secondly, because they imply a movement of detestation for sin, and in this way the general confession *

Perhaps - but it certainly is not the standard way Catholics ask for forgiveness. We use the “Act of Contrition” or the Penitential Rite at Mass.*
 
Jesus gave His Church amazing authority. Mt 16:19.
“I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven”.


It’s best to adhere to the “CCC 2nd Ed” in all circumstances - Doctrine (Dogma) of the Faith.
" The Catechism of the Catholic Church, which I have approved…and the publication of which I order by virtue of my Apostolic Authority, is a statement of the Church’s faith and of Catholic Doctrine, attested to or illumined by Sacred Scripture, the Apostolic Tradition, and the Church’s Magisterium. I declare it to be a sure norm for teaching the Faith and thus a valid and legitimate instrument for ecclesial communion. " - Pope John Paul II, with Imprimi Potest by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (page 5, #3 in CCC)
 
Can I pose a question?

What about knowingly withhold venial sins in confession - due to various reasons?

Does it make the confession invalid?

If it does not, can any one give me a link?

Thanks
 
Can I pose a question?

What about knowingly withhold venial sins in confession - due to various reasons?

Does it make the confession invalid?

If it does not, can any one give me a link?

Thanks
It is always optional to confess venial sins. See paragraph 1458 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
 
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