Is Answering To Pro Abortion/choice Poster Taking You Away From What You Need To Do About The Issue Of Abortion

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warpspeedpetey said:
  1. yall’s definition of a person ain’t got no bearin’ on what a person really is.
  2. alot of us thinks there aint no difference in a blasto-whatsit and a bigger blaso-whatsit, namely me and you didnt give no reason other than my lack of understandin’ your version of the truth. where this high falutin logic ya got? at least i offered a reason
  3. even if all points are arbitrary, that dont make it right, it still just makes it arbitrary
  4. in high school biology they had a pretty picture of a cell on a wall, looked purty organized to me, all by its lonesome, but i am curious as to how yall talked to a blasty-dealy to figure it had an independent mind, heck even a tumor has got itself some organization.
  5. i did ride a potential bicycle, i call that there a tricycle, but aint that one of them there false analogies, bikes aint organic.
  6. i still aint seen no reason that everything from chemical birth control to surgical baby killin aint homocide.
  7. i happen to be whats known colloquially as yer common north american redneck, i got a little money so i live in a double wide trailer, i got me an old pickup truck to ride around in, i wear bib overalls, and drink moonshine.
  8. now aint you ashamed that some wrong talkin’ good ol’ boy like me, just whupped up on you like that? 😊 😊 😊
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Your inability to use language makes any message you might have useless.
It also suggests that your understanding of language may be so defective that attempts at conversation are futile.
So I wish you well, and bid you fare well.
Ave et vale.
 
JDaniel said:
I spoke too quickly. After a bit more consideration, the Soul has been thought of as Form, consisting of individuation and life.

The Soul is our “connection”, if you will, with God. God can directly inform our Souls, as He does with knowledge of the Natural Law.

“Reason” is what the mind is the vessel for.

Sorry.

JD
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Hi, JD,
Repeating my last assertion, which you reject:[sign]Actually both Aristotle and Aquinas postulated two souls, the animating principle, and distinctly separate, the rational soul. [/sign]
I defend this point on the insistence that the foetus was seen as living by both Aristotle, and Aquinas, hence, from conception, having an animatory principle, of ‘animal soul’, and that at or abut quickening, the Rational soul was given.
You see, the word ‘ensoulment’ refers to the Rational soul.
Now maybe, and I would accept this, the animal soul might develop to become the immortal rational soul, but there remains one snag. After brain death, or in the case of the chicken, decapitation, the body of the chicken is still alive, (for a short while), and in the case of humans, can be kept alive for years.
Thus after the brain death, that is after the immortal soul has moved on, there remains an animating principle in the living corpse.
Thus there are at least two levels of ensoulment:
1/ The animating principle, and
2/ The Rational Immortal soul.

I would suggest that the animating principle was present in the gametes, and is capable of merging and dividing with the living forms it enlivens, while the Rational soul waits in the background until there exists a vehicle in which it can be borne.
 
What has happened to the original topic of this thread? I will ask moderators to close it down. Thanks to all the “sane” people who have posted here. See you elswhere.
 
Voco_proTatiano said:
Your inability to use language makes any message you might have useless.
It also suggests that your understanding of language may be so defective that attempts at conversation are futile.
So I wish you well, and bid you fare well.
Ave et vale.
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aw’ yer’ just mad cuz im right.

if ya say, you caint understand me then ya aint got to defend yerself, do ya?

don’t lend yer argument much weight, do it?
 
Voco_proTatiano said:
Mother Church has grown disaffected with the idea of two stages of ensoulment, and has thus become hoist by her own petard. There is much empty argument still carried out in this subject, and all of it is vain.
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I agree, but what’s theologically wrong with progressive ensoulment? And there are, after all, circumstances in which the soul might be said to be withdrawn, as in the case of parasitic twins, where on twin is encysted and never develops. Is the soul encysted as well?

StAnastasia
 
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