Is being a Catholic that different from being a Muslim?

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I don’t really want to get wrapped up in the details, because God knows that’s a rabbit hole that will keep us all here until judgment day, but from an Islamic perspective I want to add that Islam and Christianity are definitely not equivalent. I think that, of the Christian sects, Islam and Catholicism have more in common than others, but the doctrines surrounding Christ are not compatible and really important to the practice of the faith and how you see the world and God. So, while we share the worship of the same God and we should definitely practice charity and goodwill to each other, there’s still a hard boundary there.
 
That’s not very nice.I didn’t make the thread to “prove” that Catholic and Islam is the same but rather to get a clearer understanding of the differences for my own “journey”.
 
Thanks.
So to clarify, the obvious differences are:
*Believing in Christ as saviour and redeemer.
*Belief in the trinity.
*Belief in the Eucharist.

How in everyday life though should being a Christian make a person different from others?
I mean I understand that Jesus died for people’s sins,but is this where it ends or does being a Christian somehow have an effect on a persons everyday life?

Also,should something be happening “internally” to someone who’s a Christian vs being another religion (Muslim etc)?
 
Maybe Deceiver is not one of the official 99 Names so I might be wrong. Nevertheless, in the Koran in Surahs 3:54 and 8:30, Allah is described as the “best of deceivers.” Some translations say the “best of planners,” “best of schemers,” or “best of plotters,” but my understanding is that the root word (makr) means “deception.” Regardless of exact translation, it has a negative connotation. I don’t recall Jesus ever being described with any negative attributes or anything but virtue.
 
Rozellelily said:
How in everyday life though should being a Christian make a person different from others?

I mean I understand that Jesus died for people’s sins,but is this where it ends or does being a Christian somehow have an effect on a persons everyday life?
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Christianity has “an effect on a person’s everyday life” because we are daily engaging in a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. We should be praying to Him, seeking to follow His will, thinking about Him and his teachings, etc. every single day. When we deal with other people we should be seeking to see Christ in them too and follow Christ’s teachings regarding loving your neighbor and the commandments about how to interact with other people (thou shalt not kill, honor your father and mother, etc.)

Non-Christians obviously don’t have a relationship with Jesus Christ and don’t accept Him as their personal savior, so this is a huge everyday life difference.

It is probable that non-Christians would treat people according to general ethical principles that humans have followed for many centuries, and in that way have some similarities with Christianity. For example, most religions, and even non-religious legal and ethical systems, have some rules similar to “thou shalt not steal”, “thou shalt not kill”, “honor your father and mother”, “thou shalt not commit adultery”. Humans generally recognize stealing, killing, disrespecting your parents, and cheating on your mate or taking someone else’s mate as being morally questionable behavior. However, the difference for Christians is that we interpret these prohibitions through the light of Christ’s teachings.
 
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what is the need for Jesus/believing in Jesus though?
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Christians see Jesus as the guy who died for mankind’s sins, and you can only have a relationship with God if you believe in his sacrifice and his divinity. That’s what Christians say, hence the need for belief in Jesus. You’re quite right that the moral teachings he expounded did not originate with him, Confucius already talked about the golden rule and he lived almost 5 centuries before Jesus.

So it’s not just that Jesus is a nice guy, if that was all a Christian was required to believe, you could reach heaven by being a Muslim, since the Koran teaches that Jesus was a prophet to be respected.
 
Great response. The only “correction” I would make is that their god is not the true God because who denies Jesus Christ, denies God Himself
 
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The revelation to Muhamed is much more like the revelation to Joseph Smith. Nothing like the Revelation to the Church.
 
:pray:Thanks.
Sorry if this sounds simplistic but what does it mean to see Christ in other people in everyday life?
Are there any practical examples etc?
 
But according to the Catholic Church that’s only if they knowingly deny Jesus isn’t and not just from ignorance?
 
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Joeseph Smith-is that referring to Mormons/Lds?
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Yes.Both visited by angels. Muhammed is visited by Gabriel and Joseph Smith by Moroni. Both say that the Church has lost the original meaning of the revelation given to it and their revelations restore the true meaning of the revelation of God.
 
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Sorry if this sounds simplistic but what does it mean to see Christ in other people in everyday life?

Are there any practical examples etc?
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If I have an annoying neighbor who is always in a grumpy mood, I am supposed to see Christ in her and be patient with her moods, maybe try to go out of my way to be nice to her.

If I have an opportunity to help someone who is sick or poor or otherwise in need, I should see Christ in them and cheerfully help them by giving of my own resources or even just a kind friendly word.

Someone who is not Christian may say we should do these things just because it is a decent thing to be nice to people. We go a step further and say that we do it because of Christ, because He said whatsoever you do to your brother, you do unto me. We are acting with love for our brother in the name of Jesus.
 
I just want to weigh in on this as a linguist specializing in Arabic. Makr is a word that doesn’t have a perfect English equivalent. Its meaning in a neutral sense is closer to “to plan for without the subject’s awareness”, but it can be constructed in either a positive or a negative sense. Makr in the negative sense is used only to refer to human beings, because humans do not have the perfect oversight of God and so makr conducted by human being is deceptive. Makr in the positive sense is only used to refer to God, because God has perfect understanding of all situations, and so when God conducts makr it is perfect and not carried out in a spirit of deception. In that sense, positive makr is to subtly convince someone without the subject being aware they are being convinced. Mufradat al Quran, which is one of the gold standards on classical Arabic lexicography bears this out as the historically valid translation of the word.
 
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Sorry if this sounds simplistic but what does it mean to see Christ in other people in everyday life?

Are there any practical examples etc?
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Matthew, chapter 25:
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, 33 and he will put the sheep at his right hand and the goats at the left. 34 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 35 for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? 38 And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? 39 And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ 40 And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family,[g] you did it to me.’ 41 Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
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On further thought, I would say what both Catholicism and Islam have in common is that the majority of people in Western and other advanced countries don’t pay much attention to them.
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Whatever you can say about the Catholic Church or the many faces of Islam, what you cannot say is that people not in those groups have been ignoring them! No, both groups get plenty of critiques from the outside and all sorts of opinions and judgments about their members.
 
Well, when they deny the divinty of Christ, they do deny God. Whether or not they are culpable for that is God’s to judge, for only God knows what capacity they had to believe the truth or do what was right, just as only God can judge the motivations of those who seem on the exterior to believe everything that is true and do whatever is right.
 
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Yes.Both visited by angels. Muhammed is visited by Gabriel and Joseph Smith by Moroni. Both say that the Church has lost the original meaning of the revelation given to it and their revelations restore the true meaning of the revelation of God.
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These two may have honestly believed themselves to have been visited by angels, there may have been no intended deceit in a word they said or did, but it is impossible that an angel of God came and prounounced falsehoods on God’s behalf to anyone. They could have been self-deceived or mistaken or mistakenly went the wrong way out of some organic hallucination or lead astray directly by the Evil One who constantly searches to mislead every one of us but especially those who have the gift to be most charismatic in leadership, but it is not possible that God directly lead them into falsehood.

For instance, God may have held nothing that Saul did against him, even though as Paul that same man could see how wrong his zealous actions were. Our Lord did tell Saul very bluntly what he ought to do instead. When he knew better, he did better.
 
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