Is "belief" of ALL Catholic teachings required?

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You don’t. You don’t need 5 Ph.D.'s either. Accept all the teachings of the Church as authoritive with humble obedience. Failing to understand a teaching does not automatically mean one must rebel against it, it means there are obstacles to faith that need overcoming.
I hope you are not referring to me!

I already said I accept all Church teachings and I have never rebelled against any teaching.
Also understanding a teaching is not what I was talking about.You seem to be missing the whole point. Its the category of teaching I’m asking about.

I accept ALL Church teachings but I would like to know (using the CCC as the example) which ones are infallible, non-infallible, and disciplines. Why can’t the Church make it easy for all of us to know that at a glance.
 
There’s a story about Alexander the Great while on bivouac with his army. He went among his men one night and found a guard asleep on duty.

Punishment would’ve been dousing with fuel and set afire. But Alexander walked up to him and the soldier was suddenly awaken from his sleep to find the General standing there in front of him.

He immediately snapped to attention. The general asked, " what is your name soldier!!?"

Alexander my general.

The general couldn’t believe his ears grabbed the soldier by the breast armor and asked him again - and again the soldier responded, " my name is Alexander my general".

The general seemed like he would tear him apart with his own hands and instead said, " soldier, change your attitude or change your name!!". And walked off.

If you’re going to call yourself a Catholic or even a Christian…[change your attitude or change your name].
This is puzzling to me. The significance (at least how it relates to the OP or subsequent posts) has “zoomed” right over my head. apparently other’s here understand it though. what am i missing here?
 
I changed my “name” - and actually found a closer and clearer connection to God for having shed all of the stuff built up on and around Him by the Church.
This may be a wandering in the desert for you. It seems many Catholics are raised without knowing their faith. . .sadly. Sometimes you have to remove yourself and start over, at the beginning, with the basics.

I know that without my background in Protestantism and studying the bible religiously, the significance of many Catholic teachings would elude me.

For example, stained glass. For the longest time I rolled my eyes at the fancy-pants glass work in Catholic Churchs. But I didn’t know my bible very well then either and was rather stuck up too. Eventually, after many years of study I reentered a Catholic Church with my children and wowzers! my eyes opened up! It was like a pop up book of the bible. My senses were filled with biblical scenes, and more importantly my kids (who could not read at the time) were learning the bible just by sitting in Church. Lol.

It is an irony, that so much of what I snubbed my nose at - icons, stained glass, incense, etc. - has become such a delight. The depth of the church grows as your understanding of the Bible and relationship with God grows.

And this from a Protestant. (well, potential convert).
 
Well, thanks all for your excellent responses. I’m sorry that i do not have time to respond to them all. thanks bookcat, especially.
 
I accept ALL Church teachings but I would like to know (using the CCC as the example) which ones are infallible, non-infallible, and disciplines. Why can’t the Church make it easy for all of us to know that at a glance.
It would be nice to know which is which so that one does not mistakenly fail to have faith in something one ought, or some other mix up. 🙂
 
It is your faith in the Church’s interpretation of the words and revelation of Christ.
It is my Faith in Christ …and his words …and yes I trust the Church…I hold all that she holds…

and yes all that he passed on to and in the Church I know through his Church…

which does not mean that I have not been edified by other Christians (as the Church says one can be) who are our brothers and who teach various truths of his in common with us …for much unites us even if much still keeps us from full communion.
 
My faith is in God not the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church asks for your faith in Her.
From the Catechism…on the Apostles Creed…

ARTICLE 9
“I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH”

748 "Christ is the light of humanity; and it is, accordingly, the heart-felt desire of this sacred Council, being gathered together in the Holy Spirit, that, by proclaiming his Gospel to every creature, it may bring to all men that light of Christ which shines out visibly from the Church."135 These words open the Second Vatican Council’s Dogmatic Constitution on the Church. By choosing this starting point, the Council demonstrates that the article of faith about the Church depends entirely on the articles concerning Christ Jesus. The Church has no other light than Christ’s; according to a favorite image of the Church Fathers, the Church is like the moon, all its light reflected from the sun.

749 The article concerning the Church also depends entirely on the article about the Holy Spirit, which immediately precedes it. "Indeed, having shown that the Spirit is the source and giver of all holiness, we now confess that it is he who has endowed the Church with holiness."136 The Church is, in a phrase used by the Fathers, the place "where the Spirit flourishes."137

750 To believe that the Church is “holy” and “catholic,” and that she is “one” and “apostolic” (as the Nicene Creed adds), is inseparable from belief in God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. In the Apostles’ Creed we profess “one Holy Church” (Credo . . . Ecclesiam), and not to believe* in* the Church, so as not to confuse God with his works and to attribute clearly to God’s goodness all the gifts he has bestowed on his Church.138

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c3a9.htm
 
Without commenting on the whole…

just a note…(not to derail the thread)…tithing is NOT a precept…the Church doe not require a tithe…we are to support the Church of course according to our ability though…
Right and supporting the Church is done through tithing - whether it be through time, talent, or treasure. So we are basically saying the same thing. 😉
 
Right and supporting the Church is done through tithing - whether it be through time, talent, or treasure. So we are basically saying the same thing. 😉
Tithe really means 10%.

The Universal obligation is (though it could be added to):

The fifth precept (“You shall help to provide for the needs of the Church”) means that the faithful are obliged to assist with the material needs of the Church, each according to his own ability. (CCC 2042)

Canon Law:

Can. 222 §1. The Christian faithful are obliged to assist with the needs of the Church so that the Church has what is necessary for divine worship, for the works of the apostolate and of charity, and for the decent support of ministers.

Jimmy Akin Senior Apologist of CA here:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=7119086&postcount=7
 
It is my Faith in Christ …and his words …and yes I trust the Church…I hold all that she holds…

and yes all that he passed on to and in the Church I know through his Church…

which does not mean that I have not been edified by other Christians (as the Church says one can be) who are our brothers and who teach various truths of his in common with us …for much unites us even if much still keeps us from full communion.
Well, I don’t trust the Church. It’s body of men, and worse yet it’s men claiming to speak for God, All those doctrines and dogmas and disciplines don’t really matter to me; I’m a practical person, and I have my hands full just following the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.
 
Well, I don’t trust the Church. It’s body of men, and worse yet it’s men claiming to speak for God, All those doctrines and dogmas and disciplines don’t really matter to me; I’m a practical person, and I have my hands full just following the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.
I do. It is the Church established by Jesus of Nazareth …who remains with the Church and who sent the Holy Spirit to Church to sanctify and guide etc. The Apostles and their successors did not give themselves their task…it was given them by Christ.

A Merry Christmas to all!
 
Well, I don’t trust the Church. It’s body of men, and worse yet it’s men claiming to speak for God, All those doctrines and dogmas and disciplines don’t really matter to me; I’m a practical person, and I have my hands full just following the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.
The Catholic Church is the only Church Christ established and gave authority to. If you reject his Church you are rejecting Christ.
 
The Catholic Church is the only Church Christ established and gave authority to. If you reject his Church you are rejecting Christ.
You’re entitled to that belief, of course. I simply don’t share it.
 
You’re entitled to that belief, of course. I simply don’t share it.
Yes you have said as much.

It is more than a belief…

It is our Faith …handed down from the first witnesses…

witnessed to as well in the blood of the Martyrs …

The door is open.

Merry Christmas to all!
 
Well, I don’t trust the Church. It’s body of men, and worse yet it’s men claiming to speak for God, All those doctrines and dogmas and disciplines don’t really matter to me; I’m a practical person, and I have my hands full just following the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.
And the compilers of the book containing those Commandments and that Golden Rule were also men, and worse yet men claiming to be speaking (or writing) for God - inspired by the Holy Spirit.

For that matter, so was Jesus Himself a man, and a man claiming to be speaking for God, although He also went further and claimed to be God incarnate.

So why bother with any of it if it’s so durn difficult and all the product of men?
 
And the compilers of the book containing those Commandments and that Golden Rule were also men, and worse yet men claiming to be speaking (or writing) for God - inspired by the Holy Spirit.

For that matter, so was Jesus Himself a man, and a man claiming to be speaking for God, although He also went further and claimed to be God incarnate.

So why bother with any of it if it’s so durn difficult and all the product of men?
You’re right - none of us will really know the truth until we die. I suspect the details may be quite different from what any given church tells us. Christ as the son of God? The Trinity? The Bible as God’s word? I’m not longer sure of even those fundamental tenets of faith. Maybe they’re true, maybe they’re not. They don’t matter to me on a practical level. And because I can’t know what’s true, I’ve simply put all the “church stuff” behind me and focused on doing what I believe God wants us to do during our time here on earth.

As for the origin of the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule, it’s not important. Whoever and wherever they came from, my conscience tells me they’re what God wants from us. That’s all I need to know.
 
right - none of us will really know the truth until we die. I suspect the details may be quite different from what any given church tells us.
Well, despite your suspicions, those of us who choose to embrace what God has revealed do really know the Truth, or as much of it as we need to in order to transcend in this life, and in the next.
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Christ as the son of God? The Trinity? The Bible as God's word?  I'm not longer sure of even those fundamental tenets of faith.  Maybe they're true, maybe they're not.  They don't matter to me on a practical level.
Wow. Did you just fall really far, or was there ever a time when you believed these things?

The fact that none of them matter to you on a practical level is the sign that your conscience has been seared, as with a hot iron. Fortunately, Jesus can, and does, heal the seared conscience, so if you ever get to a point where you can admit that you are spiritually, morally, and emotionally bankrupt, these things will be able to matter to you on a practical level. 👍
And because I can’t know what’s true, I’ve simply put all the “church stuff” behind me and focused on doing what I believe God wants us to do during our time here on earth.
Well, the main problem with this is that trying to perceive God’s will apart from His grace, and through the damaged organ of a seared conscience is near to impossible. Of course, God being omnipotent, He can reach anyone anywhere. But since you reject the revelation He has already given, it is not likely that you will receive more.

Luke 8:16-18

“No one after lighting a lamp hides it under a jar, or puts it under a bed, but puts it on a lampstand, so that those who enter may see the light. 17 For nothing is hidden that will not be disclosed, nor is anything secret that will not become known and come to light. 18 Then pay attention to how you listen; for to those who have, more will be given; and from those who do not have, even what they seem to have will be taken away.”

You are trying to hid yourself from the Lamp of God that shines through His Church. Since you have willfully chosen to reject what He has said through His One Body, the Church, then whatever you think you seem to have will be taken away. This is a very sad state for a person so spiritually hungry.
As for the origin of the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule, it’s not important. Whoever and wherever they came from, my conscience tells me they’re what God wants from us. That’s all I need to know.
Again one has to wonder, why are you here? It seems like there is more you need to know…
 
My actual experience with cradle Catholics is that none of them have ever even browsed the CCC never mind read it. Yes I do mean none of them. I live in the Philippines which is 85% Catholic and I really have not met anyone who has read the CCC and that includes my wife, all her relatives and all the friends I have made here over the years.

My point still remains. How does anyone who reads the CCC know if what they are reading is infallible, non-infallible or discipline. There are 2865 paragraphs in the CCC. Are you suggesting people make an appointment with their priest and go through each paragraph so they can note beside each one whether its infallible, non-infalible or a discipline. I bet the priests don’t even know that.
Well, I’m a cradle Catholic who has bothered to read the CCC. This situation reminds me of a quote from G.K. Chesteron, “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.” (G.K. Chesteron, *What’s Wrong with the World, *Pt. I, Ch. 5).

Yet, I think we must all be aware that the about 2/3 of the world, even today, cannot read and write. Another large percent choose not to study their Holy Religion, either because of the busy nature of their lives or simple sloth. This is why those that do know their faith are called upon to be a living light to others.

Consequently, the Catholic faith cannot simply be a “self-study” deposit of faith. Even the Ethiopian Eunuch described in Scripture, who COULD read, did not understand what he was reading until it was explained to him by one given authority and “sent” by Christ to teach His Word.

In the final analysis, the deposit of faith is not a book to be definitively interpreted by any individual inquirer of the truth. Like all communciation, there’s some ambiguity embedded within God’s revelation. St. Augustine taught that God does this purposefully, such that we come to Him by Faith. If one desires to know the distinction between de fide catholicus, de fide definite, sententia fidei proxima, sententia certa or theologice certa, [all of which are binding], and sententia communis, sententia probabilis, probabilior, bene fundata, sententia pia, etc. [none of which are binding], I recommend they seek such knowledge from the Teaching Church, which is indeed a living magisterium.

There are some helpful texts on dogmatic theology (e.g. Ludwig Ott’s Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma) which can help advance a Catholics understanding of systematic theology with regard to these matters.

According to the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church (Lumen Gentium), Catholics are obliged to “sincerely adhere” to the teaching of the magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, “according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking.” (Lumen Gentium, 25).

Every Catholic of basic intelligence should be able to discern the difference between “counsel” and “command.” We do it every day with our boss, our parents, or government. The same discernment skills are used to distinguish what the magisterium of the Roman Pontiff teaches as requiring assent or is of pious opinion and therefore may be believed, but is not obligatory.
 
…A “truncated” book still holds the word of God.
But is that God’s intent? That we should omit any chapter or verse from the Bible which we may not particularly like? For instance, Luther omitted the Letter of James, calling it an “epistle of straw?” The early heretic Marican omitted all the OT and almost all the NT, excepting a heretical form of the Book of Matthew. Thomas Jefferson took out all the miracles from his Jefferson Bible, but left the moral teachings of Jesus. Is that ok? While what he included may still included “still holds the word of God,” is it not a grave sin to truncate chapters and verses from the Bible and pretend that an incomplete Bible which repesents a God-less Esther is perfectly OK?
 
More importantly, by faith I hold true that God will reveal His truth to me and will not let me stray.
That’s interesting, as that is precisely what the Catholic Church teaches regarding Scritpure and Tradition.
 
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