Is biological eternal life wrong?

[GEddie]

Aging isn’t the main issue. It’s dealing with the hell that is disease. Endless pain and suffering that comes with chronic disease. Who would want to live that long.

If ageing could be stopped, the diseases that accompany it would be less of a challenge.

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[ANV]

It is almost to be compared to modern medicine, is it immoral to increase the life and age of a person? Most people would say it’s not, it’s the person’s free choice, but however it may be harmful indirectly on the long term.

Personally I wouldn’t want to use it, I already lived too much, death is a release and pain free.

 

[IWantGod]

It is almost to be compared to modern medicine, is it immoral to increase the life and age of a person? Most people would say it’s not, it’s the person’s free choice, but however it may be harmful indirectly on the long term.

Personally I wouldn’t want to use it, I already lived too much, death is a release and pain free.

But what if all death is painful?

 

[ANV]

But what if all death is painful?

I meant after death, there is no feeling at all because we would be dead, I’m not afraid to face death, but I’m afraid to face what comes before it, the pain, that’s why I’m planning to end my own life when I feel the need to do it, without having to face the pain, it is the ultimate personal choice

 

[IWantGod]

I meant after death, there is no feeling at all because we would be dead, I’m not afraid to face death, but I’m afraid to face what comes before it, the pain, that’s why I’m planning to end my own life when I feel the need to do it, without having to face the pain, it is the ultimate personal choice

Have you not considered other options to suicide?

 

[ANV]

Have you not considered other options to suicide?

When it happens, it would be either Euthanasia or suffering until death, and I’m not ready for the last one.

 

[Vera_Ljuba]

It all depends… as usual. The eternal existence of the Struldbrugs In Gulliver’s Travels is not something that anyone would desire. On the other hand, the periodically recurring youth described in Keith Laumer’s book: “A Trace of Memory” is very appealing. Or Arthur C. Clark’s book: “The Stars and the City” would be very nice to have. You need to read them to understand what I am talking about. As usual, the devil is in the details. The original question is too vague to be answered in a few sentences.

 

[IWantGod]

When it happens, it would be either Euthanasia or suffering until death, and I’m not ready for the last one.

Have you considered that despite the problems in the world that you might be here for a reason?

 

[ANV]

Have you considered that despite the problems in the world that you might be here for a reason?

The only reason I’m here is because my parents had me, without them having me I wouldn’t be here, none of us would, but I’m myself a reason, I live not as much to myself as much as a reason to help and make the world better, at least according to what I believe in to be better, but when I’m unable to barely take care of myself and I’m suffering in the process and no more to change or handle due to some powerful changes in my physical strength then I see no other option because it will eventually happen, either suffer then die or escape it then die.

 

[IWantGod]

The only reason I’m here is because my parents had me, without them having me I wouldn’t be here, none of us would, but I’m myself a reason, I live not as much to myself as much as a reason to help and make the world better, at least according to what I believe in to be better, but when I’m unable to barely take care of myself and I’m suffering in the process and no more to change or handle due to some powerful changes in my physical strength then I see no other option because it will eventually happen, either suffer then die or escape it then die.

Do you have Cancer?

 

[ANV]

Do you have Cancer?

No, your question is weird, but I might have cancer that I don’t know about yet, so I can’t assume I don’t have, but yes if I ever had cancer, I wouldn’t want to face the suffering that comes with it.

 

[IWantGod]

No, your question is weird, but I might have cancer that I don’t know about yet, so I can’t assume I don’t have, but yes if I ever had cancer, I wouldn’t want to face the suffering that comes with it.

You talking like somebody who has Cancer That’s why i asked.

Yes, i would not like to suffer and if there is no God there doesn’t seem to be any rational reason to reject euthanasia as a valid option. No one has the right to say i have to stay alive.

However, if my existence is objectively valuable, given by God, i would hope that i could conquer all suffering for the sake of that value.

 

[ANV]

You talking like somebody who has Cancer That’s why i asked.

Yes, i would not like to suffer and if there is no God there doesn’t seem to be any rational reason to reject euthanasia as a valid option. No one has the right to say i have to stay alive.

However, if my existence is objectively valuable, given by God, i would hope that i could conquer all suffering for the sake of that value.

That’s good to hear.

 

[edwest2]

If scientists found away to permanently stop the aging process, would this be an immoral thing to do?

1. No one knows if the human mind can endure indefinite life.
2. Those people you know who refuse will die.
3. Death is still possible from outside trauma and other sources.

Ed

 

[GEddie]

1. No one knows if the human mind can endure indefinite life.

If not, then it would be equally pointless to long for an afterlife, non?

Factoring out the (major) issue of embodiment for the moment, if there is to be any “you” in an afterlife, your mind would have to be there.

Ed

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[edwest2]

If not, then it would be equally pointless to long for an afterlife, non?

Factoring out the (major) issue of embodiment for the moment, if there is to be any “you” in an afterlife, your mind would have to be there.

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Mentions of the afterlife are only partial answers but Catholics have plenty to look forward to. I’ll offer two.

1 Corinthians 15:52

New International Version
in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

New Living Translation
It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And we who are living will also be transformed.

English Standard Version
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.

We will be with the Living God.

Ed

 

[GEddie]

Mentions of the afterlife are only partial answers but Catholics have plenty to look forward to. I’ll offer two.

1 Corinthians 15:52

New International Version
in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

New Living Translation
It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And we who are living will also be transformed.

English Standard Version
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.

We will be with the Living God.

Ed

Doesn’t answer my counterpoint.

There is no human being without the mind if body has been lost, therefore to say that “the mind cannot endure (sic) an endless life” would kibosh any human afterlife worth speaking of.

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