It is not being “blamed on” these priests. The facts of the cases speak for themselves. The data shows that the perpetrators were preying on same sex children and teens in almost all cases of sexual abuse.
No, not exactly. The discernment process uses new standards and some who are unsuitable for ordination will not become priests.
Maybe, maybe not. However, we are not talking about general populations, and predominantly we are talking about sexual relationships with teen boys. We are talking about the priesthood-- where men live together communally and have care of the formation of young boys as well.
Those who are able are not necessarily refused ordination.
No. The priesthood is NOT a right. It is a calling, and the bishop (or religious superior) alone determines if a candidate is suitable.
Read the Church’s report on the set abuse crisis.
This always confuses me. Homosexuality isn’t some dogmatic ideology that follows certain rules. How can something like child abuse be a clear part of homosexuality if homosexuality just involves same-sex relationships? Claims like this just seem like an attempt to defame homosexuals. They don’t really even make sense when you think about them.
That is incorrect. All of the recent Popes, from Pius XII to Benedict XVI, asked that men with serious homosexual issues not be ordained to the priesthood. Some bishops, obviously, did not follow those requests. In any case, celibate homosexuals commit no sin. Those who have sexual contact with children and those who enable them are the only guilty ones.
You don’t know that for a fact, that is just something that you have been told.
I’m just repeating what a homosexual that was caught abusing children said.
Big if.
Oh, well case closed then. Sounds like solid evidence for a universal conclusion.
24 is an infant. You will only be an effective witness if you continue to overcome for another twenty years.
How old are you? I’ll gladly get back with you in 20 years then, if you’re still alive.
I admit, I am ignorant of which saint(s) overcame same sex attraction and remained chaste. Can you point me in the right direction?
Thank you for your witness. And you are correct, the priesthood is not completely out of reach for those with same sex attraction. But, it is a very serious discernment process for the candidate and the bishop.
If you are seriously discerning religion vocation, the best bet is to talk to a vocational director. Either way, thank you for also being a good witness with ssa (I’m in the same boat but 25 instead though I have discerned religious orders are not part of my vocation. The big thing is don’t let any one bother you but remain strong in your comitment to Christ. God bless
He/she said he/she heard it from a bona fide homosexual caught abusing children, so it has to be factual.
Yes, because **ONE **person said it then it must be for all. It’s not like that is generalizing or anything.
Hey, are you saying that Confederacy Deo isn’t a reliable witness? Stop bringing ad hominem attacks into this.
Thank you.If you are seriously discerning religion vocation, the best bet is to talk to a vocational director. Either way, thank you for also being a good witness with ssa (I’m in the same boat but 25 instead though I have discerned religious orders are not part of my vocation. The big thing is don’t let any one bother you but remain strong in your comitment to Christ. God bless
Besides the account given by the criminal, it is stated in this article that, while homosexuals constitute 1-3% of the population, they are responsible for “up to 33% of all sex crimes against children”. Also in the article, “The term ‘twink’ denotes an adolescent sex partner, a common occurrence among active homosexuals.”
Thanks. I do have some of my vocation (medicine) figured out (it’s just in that murky land of single celibate life so means it could go into a lot of directions); I just meant that religious vocation isn’t part of my calling after discernment for a variety of reasons.Thank you.
Well, you certainly do have a vocation, as everyone does. I’m sure you know that, but still, you have a vocation
Yeah, I don’t go on these forums much. And my time here recently won’t be causing me to change that. I’m pretty good friends with the vocation director for the Diocese (I had lunch with him today)… just as friends, not as discernment though. But yeah, it just gets me discouraged to see people saying stuff like that.
In real life I very rarely come across that stuff in the Church (sometimes, but 98 or 99 x out of 100 people understand what the Church teaches.
Thanks again. The internet and internet discussions aren’t the best thing in my life, lol.
Any rate good luck, and just be open to were God wants to lead you . God bless.