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And why?
It’s been around longer than Christianity.
It’s been around longer than Christianity.
I am not sure I followBuddhism is very much new age. Even though it’s been around longer than christianity, look at it like this, it’s like the teens who like to wear retro clothing and glasses. It’s like the hipsters who wear rayban glasses even though they might or might not need them. Like myself I like to wear things that are retro, and use retro products. This revival of Buddhism will eventually fade away.
Buddhism is not new age. Though the New Age movement may have co-opted elements of Buddhism, as well as Christianity, Judaism and most every other religion, it is essentially an occult movement that developed from the work of Aleister Crowley in the early 1900s. Though he died in the late 1940s, many other influential people carried on his work, among them Timothy Leary, who believed that he was “Crowley reborn” and that his mission in life was to complete the work Crowley had started, and the Beatles, close friends of Leary’s who featured Crowley, claiming him as one of their heroes, on the cover of their most famous album; John Lennon would also later say that the whole concept behind the Beatles was “Do What Thou Wilt” (the credo of Crowley’s new religion, Thelema). Along with numerous other prominent figures of the mid-20th century, also influenced by Crowley, these were the people who laid the foundation for the New Age movement. So in fact, New Age ideas are based in Crowley’s particular brand of Satanism; really a sort of Luciferian Gnosticism (the “spirit” that Crowley supposedly channeled in his “Book of the Law” [the foundational work/“sacred scripture” of the Thelemic religion] identified itself with the Serpent in the Garden).Buddhism is very much new age. Even though it’s been around longer than christianity, look at it like this, it’s like the teens who like to wear retro clothing and glasses. It’s like the hipsters who wear rayban glasses even though they might or might not need them. Like myself I like to wear things that are retro, and use retro products. This revival of Buddhism will eventually fade away.
You have gotten answers from many different angles and they are all somewhat right.And why?
It’s been around longer than Christianity.
interesting! would be great to quote sources, not just you but many, who have a wealth of education!Buddhism is not new age. Though the New Age movement may have co-opted elements of Buddhism, as well as Christianity, Judaism and most every other religion, it is essentially an occult movement that developed from the work of Aleister Crowley in the early 1900s. Though he died in the late 1940s, many other influential people carried on his work, among them Timothy Leary, who believed that he was “Crowley reborn” and that his mission in life was to complete the work Crowley had started, and the Beatles, close friends of Leary’s who featured Crowley, claiming him as one of their heroes, on the cover of their most famous album; John Lennon would also later say that the whole concept behind the Beatles was “Do What Thou Wilt” (the credo of Crowley’s new religion, Thelema). Along with numerous other prominent figures of the mid-20th century, also influenced by Crowley, these were the people who laid the foundation for the New Age movement. So in fact, New Age ideas are based in Crowley’s particular brand of Satanism; really a sort of Luciferian Gnosticism (the “spirit” that Crowley supposedly channeled in his “Book of the Law” [the foundational work/“sacred scripture” of the Thelemic religion] identified itself with the Serpent in the Garden).
Buddhism is chic right now, but that doesn’t make it New Age.
No, not New Age; rather, people today have picked up on some of the ideas and practices found in Buddhism, just like people have done in other times and with other religions and belief systems (as others here have pointed out). For those people it is more like the latest fad, similar to the latest diet fad. And like those diet fads, for most of those who sample it there will not be much of a lasting effect.And why?
It’s been around longer than Christianity.
Only in the sense that New Age movements are heavily influenced by Buddhism, and that Buddhism has only really begun impacting the Western world in the past couple decades.And why?
It’s been around longer than Christianity.
Eh, I’d be more convinced of the religious faith of a person with a crucifix on their wall than a Buddha statue in their rooms. The crucifix is too much associated with an official religious organization - the Roman Catholic Church - to be seen as simply a symbol of spiritual enlightenment. Most people associate the Buddha simply with wisdom, or “the middle way” or something along that nature, but not anything concrete. At least in the Western world, anyway.Buddhism is most certainly not new age; anyone who thinks otherwise should read a book once in a while. Yes, obviously when you see someone with a Buddha statue or posting quotes from the Dalai Lama on facebook they’re probably not coming from a devout buddhist but rather from a spiritual dilettante, but that’s true of the average person who has a crucifix on their wall too. Go and spend some time with an actual buddhist who really tries to embody the Buddha’s teachings; I guarantee you’ll be unable to maintain your belief that they subscribe to some kind of pop culture spirituality.
Just cuz they don’t see it as a symbol of enlightenment doesn’t mean they’re not a spiritual dilettante. The majority of people who identify as Roman Catholic are anything but devout; surely you know this. If people looked to the average Catholic to show them what it means to embody that faith, it would make a very poor sales package.Eh, I’d be more convinced of the religious faith of a person with a crucifix on their wall than a Buddha statue in their rooms. The crucifix is too much associated with an official religious organization - the Roman Catholic Church - to be seen as simply a symbol of spiritual enlightenment.
I would agree with you. I just meant that in the sense that I don’t see many dilettante Catholics wear crucifixes often.Just cuz they don’t see it as a symbol of enlightenment doesn’t mean they’re not a spiritual dilettante. The majority of people who identify as Roman Catholic are anything but devout; surely you know this. If people looked to the average Catholic to show them what it means to embody that faith, it would make a very poor sales package.
Most people who consider themselves religious and/or spiritual are in fact spiritual dilettantes.
To be even more accurate, not all Buddhists share the same ideas about the existence and/or nature of God/gods. It’s a pretty varied philosophy/religion.Also, Buddhist is not “religious atheism” but considers there to be a hierarchy of divinities.
Pretty recently, too!Also Hinduism is really not an “ism” at all, but has only been labeled as such.
Relative to many religious and philosophical movements, that’s still pretty new.Here is a related question: Is “New Age” new any more? It seems like it has been around for 40 years or more.
I tend to think so.And is “New Age” really a unified belief system, or just a label we have stuck on various concepts and practices
But it is appropriated for use in non-Christian contexts. Ram Dass’ Be Here Now contains a few images of the crucifixion of Christ, such as this one and this. There’s also a pagan/syncretist bookstore in my town that occasionally places a crucifix in the window display.The crucifix is too much associated with an official religious organization - the Roman Catholic Church - to be seen as simply a symbol of spiritual enlightenment.
Yes.Most people associate the Buddha simply with wisdom, or “the middle way” or something along that nature, but not anything concrete. At least in the Western world, anyway.
Buddhism is NOT “religous atheism”…the Divine is a given and need not be defined nor quantified…how one lives in response to the Divine which is al around us, in us, part of us is what matters…freeing ourselves from the “attachement” of the things of this world.I am not sure I follow
(MOST) Buddhism is religious Atheism
its not new age but some of the practices and or ideologies are present in new age-ism
“New Age” is an umbrella term for practices that are occult (astrological charts, oiuja boards, channeling, certain types of meditation, etc.)Buddhism is NOT “religous atheism”…the Divine is a given and need not be defined nor quantified…how one lives in response to the Divine which is al around us, in us, part of us is what matters…freeing ourselves from the “attachement” of the things of this world.
“God” need not be discussed in Buddhism…God is apparant becasue we are alive. “God” is beyond concepts of human understanding…so why seek to understand “God” when "God’ is present in those around us…why not spend one’s time making ourselves better…relating to others better…becoming better and more in tune with the Eternal than trying to define the Eternal.
The Tao Te Ching, while not specifically “Buddhist” but Taoist states “To name the Eternal is not the Eternal”
Any “deity” is merely a human constuct…since the Eternal is beyond the finite to grasp…so what’s the point of trying…why not simply seek to live within the Eternal Now?