"Is Catholic Ireland Dead?"

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St. John Paul II in 1979, prophetically warned:
“Lay people today are called to a strong Christian commitment: to permeate society with the leaven of the Gospel, for Ireland is at a point od decision in her history. The Irish people have to choose today their way forward. What a victory the Devil would gain, what a blow he would inflict on the Body of Christ in the world, if he could seduce Irish men and women away form Christ. Now is the time for testing for Ireland”
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– The quote above and the title of this thread are both taken from an excellent article by Dr. Timothy O’Donnell, President of Christendom College, (“Principles” Vol. 4, Issue 4)

His article continues, reminding us on May 25, 2018 the Irish People chose the wrong way forward. On Sept. 18, legal abortion took effect in Ireland – a country which for centuries had been a defender and promoter of the Catholic Faith.

I’m posting the quote today on this Day of Prayer for the Unborn. The USA also chose the wrong way forward and I pray we hear the warning and begin to reverse the culture of death in the USA. There are some “signs of life” in Catholics: youth especially but people of every age who are determined to choose Christ’s Life and Light over the darkness of the culture of death.

By God’s Grace, we have a choice. Mary, Mother and Model of the Church, pray for us.
Come, Holy Spirit, renew the face of the earth! Jesus, we trust in You!
 
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All we can do is live as Christians, proclaim the gospel, and pray for repentance of our nations.
 
God always tends His Body and renews it. He always raises up great saints in times of difficulty. Have hope. Never despair. This is the time for all of us to get closer to God and renew our own commitment to Him. Daily Mass, Rosary, frequent Confession, prayer.
 
All I’m going to say is that the Catholic Church in Ireland didn’t do itself any favors in the past few years.
 
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St. Patrick, St. Brendan, St. Brigit, St. Kevin, St. Columba, pray for us, pray for Ireland.
 
It is grim. I think a large section of Ireland has embraced ultra-liberal secularism in a sort of deluded spirit of rebellion and supposed emancipation without properly considering what they are doing. It is very sad.
 
Thanks Hodos,

Yes, living in Christ, we can bring Christ into the World – His Light shining through us. We need follow Him, loving one another as He loved us . Living as Mary did, keeping all He said and did; and pondering all in our hearts. Prayer is our relationship with Him and we need to pray always making reparation for our sins and the sins of the world.

Mary Mother and Model for the Church pray for us.
 
Dear Limincello,

Thanks for your reply.Yes, God is faithful and His Love endures forever. We have been given so much – we can never thank Him enough but we have all sinned and gone astray, and so we continually seek His grace that we may repent and begin anew.

How we need Him to increase in us the Gifts of Supernatural Faith Hope and Charity – His Life within us, received at Baotism! Prayer is like oxygen – we cannot live His Life without prayer – asking, seeking and knocking on the door of His Heart, that he may open for us.
 
Dear PJH_74,

My heart aches when I think of the great saints among my ancestors in Ireland, and many martyrs for the Faith! How could this have happened to the Ireland my grandparents and great-grandparents knew? It seems to me there is a parallel in how the the USA was also stronger in faith in years past, but as Scripture warns us : The evil one prowls around seeking whom he may devour. The spirit of the world opposes the Spirit of Christ and every person in every nation needs to make the choice between good and evil. None of us do ourselves any favors when we turn from God to seek our own way rather than His Way, Truth and Life. Thanks for your reply.
 
Thanks so much Casilda for your reply and for your calling on our great saints! I am sure they are praying with and for us all.
 
Yes, Brenden, it is grim, and yet there is always Hope! I agree a large section of Ireland has embraced what is far less than what God’s Truth is. Certainly, what they are doing at present is very sad and it is happening here in the USA too.

May God grant abundant grace to the remnant of the Faithful to stand steadfast in their Love for the Lord, as Our Blessed Mother and St. John the Beloved Disciple stood at the foot of Christ’s Cross on Calvary. Thanks for your reply
 
Like St Patrick said: ‘I pray to God to give me perseverance and to deign that I be a faithful witness to Him to the end of my life for my God.’
 
Many things brought this about but you are correct the Church didn’t and still hasn’t properly dealt with the abuse and other issues. Along with this the catechism hasn’t been taught properly compared to how our parents were taught, very few people know what it means to be Catholic, nevermind Christian. Religious no longer wearing habits, collars etc. there is no visible church to point to and finally the bishops are silent. It’s like we have been abandoned by them.
 
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All I’m going to say is that the Catholic Church in Ireland didn’t do itself any favors in the past few years.
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Came in to say the same thing… although I would extend the past few years to say that the Church didn’t do itself any favors in Ireland for many, many decades
 
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God has dealt with worse than Ireland 😉 We need to pray, seriously and with commitment, pray for the people of Ireland. The lure of secularism (“tolerance”, “compassion”, “love”—all without any rules or hardships) is like candy for a baby to many people. As said above, we must watch for the great saints that God will raise up and pray for them and all the people of Ireland…
 
Dear Dan,

Ditto! Thanks for your reply. The “Lorica” (also called the Breastplate) of St. Patrick" says so much to me about supernatural Faith, Hope and Charity infused into our souls at Baptism!
I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through a belief in the Threeness,
Through confession of the Oneness
Of the Creator of creation.

I arise today
Through the strength of Christ’s birth and His baptism,
Through the strength of His crucifixion and His burial,
Through the strength of His resurrection and His ascension,
Through the strength of His descent for the judgment of doom…
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He ends with the same words:
I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through a belief in the Threeness,
Through a confession of the Oneness
Of the Creator of creation

St. Patrick (ca. 377)
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If you or anyone reading this thread has not read the complete text, please click on the link above and be blessed (or be blessed AGAIN) by “The Faith, Hope and Charity” of this Irish Patron Saint!

Mary Mother of the Church, pray for us. St. Patrick, pray for Ireland and the world.
 
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Dear Xarto,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, many things – all of us in every country, who were baptized into the Catholic Church have experienced the rise of secularism. Many people inside and outside the Church have turned and are turning from God’s Holy Spirit and His Truth, and embracing lies from the “spirit” of the world. How well did St. Augustine write in his classic book, “The City of God” that there are two cities being built: The City of God and the city of man. The City of God is built by those who love God to the contempt of self while the city of man is built by those who love self to the contempt of God!
 
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Dear godisgood,

Thanks for your reply, as I replied to PJH – not only Ireland but everyone baptized into the Catholic Church needs to ask for the grace to see and repent for we have not done ourselves any favors either – whatever country we are in at present – in the choices we have made individually. As one member of the Body falls into sin, we all are weakened, but as one member rises from sin and earnestly seeks to live in Christ, we all can rise higher and grow in holiness.
 
Dear therese,

Thanks for your reply. I agree, but God has already given us some great saints, like St. John Paul II and St. Mother Teresa of Calcutta and others, yet many of our baptized Catholics have forgotten: “ALL are called to holiness”. Yes, God has dealt with sin over many ages and peoples – He is Infinitely Loving and Merciful but we have great need, as you pointed out, to pray seriously, and with commitment – and we must pray not only for Ireland but for ourselves and every soul in need of His Mercy.

Our Lady of Fatima told the three shepherd children to pray the Rosary daily, for the Lord has been so offended. How many Catholic really take time to pray and to become the saints God intended us to be? As I mentioned in my original post, “By God’s Grace, we have a choice” I now add: By God’s Grace may we chose God above all! Come Holy Spirit, fill the Hearts of Your faithful. Kindle in us, the Fire of Your Love. Renew the Face of the earth. Mary, Mother and Model of the Church, pray for us.
 
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I am Irish living in Ireland, the country is in a terrible state at the moment. Liberalism has swepted over Ireland like a disease. Many have abandoned their Catholic faith and God which our ancestors have pasted down to us.

The past wrongs of some that where meant to represent Christ also played a part in the weakening of the faith as did watered down teachings in schools. The government and media despise the Church and Catholics also which doesn’t help.

I don’t despire though because God didn’t send us St Patrick for nothing, we where once known as the land of Saints and Scholars. I have been reading up on the prophecies of St Patrick in recent times 👇

I concede a favour to them without exception,
and St Patrick also did concede the same;
that seven years before the last day,
the sea shall submerge Eirin by one inundation

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