Is checking your horoscope for fun a sin?

[ahs]

Sure here is an example I gave for you on the “Signs in the Zodiac” chat page.

Factual basis as evidence: The New Catholic Encyclopedia reveals that “astrology was used by Pope Julius II [1503-1513] to set the day of his coronation and by Paul III [1534-1549] to determine the proper hour for every Consistory.

My time is limited at the coffee shop for using the internet. If I had more time I would do more research for you. Thanks for your quick response to my statements.

I find it interesting that you would bring up Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John but they are part of a group of 12 disciples (12 signs of the Zodiac). If you don’t think they have no connection to the Zodiac then you may want to think again. Each disciple represents a sign of the Zodiac according to early Christens. From what sign you are born under determines what type of personality you will have and how that will affect you and your life cycle. Each disciple has a personality that reflects that Zodiac sing they represent. Take Peter for example (the foundation of the Church) he was hot headed and reacts before thinking. This is a strong personality that is as important as the rest. Now Christ is the center of that disciples Zodiac. The message I believe here is that you should find the Christ center within yourself. Hear are some images I found on google that may show some proof for the skeptical person. I am skeptical as well and that is why I did this research for myself years back on this subject. Always question what you are told.

Disciples as signs of the Zodiac
truthbeknown.com/images/christhelioszodiac.jpg

Zodiac above the Popes head.
mindserpent.com/American_History/religion/pope/bg/pope_zodiac.jpg

Vatican painting. God and the zodiac
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My question: is this escape from the Aeons or archetypal structure? What patterns are already placed on the consciousness before our birth or at our birth?

If you want to know my research then you would have to study the mystery religions of the pre-Christian era. I am lucky because I have access to many books and manuscripts that are not for public use. That is not to say you can’t find this if you look for it.

I’m sorry if this doesn’t make any sense. Here I’ll leave you with this one quote: “The Kingdom of Heaven is within you and whoever knows himself shall find it.
” Jesus Christ, Oxyrhynchus Manuscript.

Yeah, my apologies. Someone else corrected me as well. I was confusing the “zodiac” for using “horoscopes”. The zodiac is used as a calendar. If they are associated with fortunes and forms of divinity, (used as horoscopes) it becomes a mis-use…and that should be rejected. That is my understanding. Am I off on that?

 

[christwithin]

Please replay to my post. Any comments are welcome. Oh and nothing to be ashamed of there are parts of the Holy Bible that are passed over and not talked about by your religious leaders about reading of horoscopes. I’ll point out a few for you here.​

And God said, let there be lights in the firmament of heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for SIGNS, and for seasons, and for days, and for years. Genesis 1:14

Let there be for Signs?​

Canst you bind the sweet influences of the Pleiades, or lose the bands of Orion. Canst thou lead Arcturus and his son? Knowest thou the ORDINANCES of the heavens. Job 38

He is asking do you know your way around the Zodiac?​

The PATTERNS of things in the heavens. Heb 9:23

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I talked before about Jesus as being the Sun. I will give more detail. You know the story of Jesus being born on a SUNday. He is the Solar King Horus. The three wise men represents the three cults that make up Israel. What star do you think they fallowed from Babylon to Israel in the west? They bring the three symbols of the sun.

Gold (yellow and shinny like the sun)
Frankincense and myrrh (both used as incense in the temples of the Sun cults.)

We are talking about merging three cults here. What three cults? Just look at the name of Israel and you will get your answer.
ISRAEL
ISIS - RA - EL

Cult of Isis = Moon (the month: Lunar cult)
Cult of Ra =Sun (the year: Solar cult)
Cult of El = Saturn (the week: Stellar cult)

Why do we turn East to say our prayers? Is this the direction that sun rises?

Have you ever took a good look at Mary (Our Lady of Guadalupe or Virgin of Guadalupe) She stands on the crescent moon and behind her is the sun. Why is that? Well you would have to study the Ancient Egyptian cults.

I wasn’t going to give this to you but here is the answer: The Sphinx is looking at what in the sky? The Sphinx is looking at the sun entering the sign of Virgo around July 25th. This is the Sun (Son) of heavens (Zodiac) being born again of a virgin (entering the sign of Virgo).

Why would the Pope where a fish head of Pisces like the ancient Babylonians. This is a sign for the age of Pisces. If you want to know the truth about Catholicism just have a look at what Pisces represents. Do you really think that the leaders of the Church or our government are unaware of the influence of our psyche due to being in Pisces? As a Church member I feel we need to make changes way before the Awakening of Aquarius. I suspect this awakening will come much sooner due to outside intervention.

Sorry I don’t mean to write a book here so I will end with this note:

If knowing your birth star sign is a sin then why is this idea ingrained in our religion as unconscious symbols? I am not saying to go out and become a star reader but just to know who you are and know your religion completely like you’re leaders do. Do you always want to be the ignorant sheep fallowing others to do their bidding or do you want to find your own shepherd. That shepherd is knocking on your door and it’s you.

 

[christwithin]

What do you think could be influenced by the 12 signs of the Zodiac? here are some ideas.

The 12 hours
The 12 months
The Catholic Confirmation
12 Jury members
12 patriarchs of Israel (12 sons of Jacob)
12 brothers of Joseph
12 Stages of the Egyptian underworld
12 Stages of the mummification process
Egypt was divided into 12 provinces
Set had the body of Osiris cut up into 12 pieces.
12 Stones which Moses erected for the tribes.
King Arthur had 12 Knights
King Arthur had a round table resembling the Zodiac above.
Balder had 12 Judges
Odysseus had 12 companions
Romulus had 12 peers in French legend
The number of notes in Octave are 12
12 cranial nerves
pyramid has 4 corners (north south east west) and three points to each side. 3x4=12
Last but not least 12 disciples of Jesus.

Dose your flag have any stars in it? Why stars? Is it a sin to say a pledge to this flag?

 

[ahs]

What do you think could be influenced by the 12 signs of the Zodiac? here are some ideas.

The 12 hours
The 12 months
The Catholic Confirmation
12 Jury members
12 patriarchs of Israel (12 sons of Jacob)
12 brothers of Joseph
12 Stages of the Egyptian underworld
12 Stages of the mummification process
Egypt was divided into 12 provinces
Set had the body of Osiris cut up into 12 pieces.
12 Stones which Moses erected for the tribes.
King Arthur had 12 Knights
King Arthur had a round table resembling the Zodiac above.
Balder had 12 Judges
Odysseus had 12 companions
Romulus had 12 peers in French legend
The number of notes in Octave are 12
12 cranial nerves
pyramid has 4 corners (north south east west) and three points to each side. 3x4=12
Last but not least 12 disciples of Jesus.

Dose your flag have any stars in it? Why stars? Is it a sin to say a pledge to this flag?

I think now that you are confusing the two…calendars vs. horoscopes. Yeah, like I said, the Zodiac were used as a calendar, etc… To use them as a means of fortune-telling and assigning divinity are not acceptable. See CCC reference I posted earlier on the necessity to reject all forms of divination, including horoscopes.

To suggest that the Church used the zodiac calendar as a form of fortune/horoscope does fit the description I mentioned earlier of calumny (also in CCC that I previously posted).

 

[christwithin]

I think now that you are confusing the two…calendars vs. horoscopes. Yeah, like I said, the Zodiac were used as a calendar, etc… To use them as a means of fortune-telling and assigning divinity are not acceptable. See CCC reference I posted earlier on the necessity to reject all forms of divination, including horoscopes.

To suggest that the Church used the zodiac calendar as a form of fortune/horoscope does fit the description I mentioned earlier of calumny (also in CCC that I previously posted).

Yes I think so calendars as well. We don’t think about it now but 2,000 years ago they used the stars for when they should start the years harvest. This was there food to live on for the year. If they didn’t watch the stars they could starve to death. No wonder the Gods were in the heavens controlling everything. Stars were used for many things. I study Astor-Theology witch is basically the religion of the stars.Today I take a look at the stars at night and only see the bright lights from the street lamps. How disappointing!

The chair I saw at the Vatican had the Zodiac on the seat but you couldn’t see it until they cleaned off the paint. It was a beautiful chair but I went back within the next few days and I was told they put it away in storage after finding the Zodiac engraved on the seat. It seems the rules have changed in some point in time with the Vatican. You know the Vatican has a Observatory? I wonder what Galileo would say about that if he was still alive today?

If you took the time to look into it, the stars or heavens play a big role in the Bible.

 

[wcknight]

Interesting that even though we are warned not to use or rely on astrology to seek information about the future, God, Himself used astrology to announce the coming of His Son. And the magi are often considered astrologers who followed the star of Jesus to visit Him.

It’s pretty creepy watching all the palm readers at the beaches and elsewhere. They seem to be making a ‘decent’ living off of trying to predict peoples future. I really don’t want to know what will happen in the future, EXCEPT where I hope to end up after I leave this earth. And that I leave in the hands of the Lord.