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Baguette
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Title is self explanatory. For any one of you who is living in Europe, how is it going on there?
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Lou2U
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I don’t think so (speaking from England). Maybe it’s not as big a part of life as it used to be, but I know quite a few Christians. I think the CAF view of Europe tends to be one of a continent dying spiritually, but I really don’t see that at all. Whenever I travel in Europe, I see plenty of churches with worshippers in them.
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Lain
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No I don’t think so. It’s under attack, sure, but that’s at least exposing some of the unfaithful churches for what they really are.
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Baguette
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So those Churches are the church that isn’t actually christian? That’s why they’re dead?
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Lain
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The churches that are growing are the conservative ones that still preach the gospel. Liberal denominations are the ones compromising with secular values and are withering. Christ promises that his church will endure.
Tis_Bearself
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“Europe” is a big place and is made up of a lot of countries and many sub-regions within each country. Your question is very broad. Some places, Christianity is doing all right, and some places it isn’t.
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ConfusedLucy
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I certainly wouldn’t wish to generalise about a continent but the parts of the UK I have lived in don’t fill me with a lot of hope. Religion just doesn’t seem relevant to most peoples lives.
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ErraticFaith
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Christianity is dead in the Uk. Completely. Nobody cares about it in the slightest, at least with regard to everyday life as mentioned above.
That IS a generalization that doesn’t count for every single last individual. Nor to imply their thoughts aren’t important.
But the view of the Archbishop is clear. Christianity is finished here and the most religious/rising influence if there is one - is Islam. A belief which further encourages the dismemberment of Christian values, as it tries to develop support for sharia (of which they already have serveral minor courts in our cities) and is succeeding in finding sympathy.
It will either end up either a muslim state, or that will be blocked by the growing wave of staunch atheists and academics. Who cling to the Dawkins/Hawking scientific approach to reality and it will fall back into a more socialist/liberal framework. Which is the very popular aim of the Labour Party, a rather anti-Semitic group at the best of times. People that have strongly captured the view/support of the youth.
The rest of Europe fares better in places (Poland for one) or to a lesser extent (where it isn’t doing so well), Spain and large areas of Germany.
It really is a bit here and there with it depending on where you live/perspective. So a comprehensive response will be challenging.
That IS a generalization that doesn’t count for every single last individual. Nor to imply their thoughts aren’t important.
But the view of the Archbishop is clear. Christianity is finished here and the most religious/rising influence if there is one - is Islam. A belief which further encourages the dismemberment of Christian values, as it tries to develop support for sharia (of which they already have serveral minor courts in our cities) and is succeeding in finding sympathy.
It will either end up either a muslim state, or that will be blocked by the growing wave of staunch atheists and academics. Who cling to the Dawkins/Hawking scientific approach to reality and it will fall back into a more socialist/liberal framework. Which is the very popular aim of the Labour Party, a rather anti-Semitic group at the best of times. People that have strongly captured the view/support of the youth.
The rest of Europe fares better in places (Poland for one) or to a lesser extent (where it isn’t doing so well), Spain and large areas of Germany.
It really is a bit here and there with it depending on where you live/perspective. So a comprehensive response will be challenging.
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Baguette
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So it’s dead in the uk , large parts of germany and in spain?
Tis_Bearself
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Probably “dead” in France too while you’re at it, and maybe in Czech Republic.
Doing pretty well in Poland, Portugal and Austria
Doing pretty well in Poland, Portugal and Austria
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magnusbar
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Not dead, but dying. Doing better in the east than west.
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Lou2U
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Massive generalisation.
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Lain
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Define ‘dead’. Judaism and Christianity have always been religions preserved by the faithful remnant; the number of people going to church is only one measure - 10 faithful Christians are more alive than 100 nominal ones who do nothing about their faith. Saying that nobody cares about it in the slightest is an over generalisation, I think - there are many people who care very deeply.Christianity is dead in the Uk. Completely. Nobody cares about it in the slightest, at least with regard to everyday life as mentioned above.
Which Archbishop are you referring to?But the view of the Archbishop is clear. Christianity is finished here and the most religious/rising influence if there is one - is Islam.
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SalamKhan
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In England, prety much. The buildings may still be there but almost everyone who’s a Christian is only nominally so.
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michaelArc
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I have to agree with @Tis_Bearself. It’s impossible to make such a generalization about Europe.“Europe” is a big place and is made up of a lot of countries and many sub-regions within each country. Your question is very broad. Some places, Christianity is doing all right, and some places it isn’t.
I live in The Netherlands, and Christianity is near extinct. There are pockets in some parts of the country, but I live in a major city and its completely on the fringe and only kept afloat by expats and African immigrants.
In speaking to the Dutch from all walks of life, there appears to be a common denominator in which everyone expects you share a disdain for religion in general.
If I had to guess, I would say that Islam is the major religion here, though it still pales in comparison to those who would classify themselves as non-affiliated.
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michaelArc
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Slovakia is predominantly a Catholic country, but it’s also on the downturn.
It’s pretty much dead in the Czech Republic. In fact, the Czechs have the highest rate of atheism in the world.
It’s pretty much dead in the Czech Republic. In fact, the Czechs have the highest rate of atheism in the world.
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Constantin
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I am from Middle Europe.
As the others here said, it various a lot between countries and even within countries.
Potentially, you could say that the further East and South you go, the more Christianity you will find.
If you go North and West, it is gone in most parts. However, again, this is a generalization and oversimplification.
There are places which remain very Catholic, like some rural areas in Poland, Austria, Germany, Italy, Spain.
One fact that many Americans are not aware of is that in Europe, Protestantism is done for. Completely.
We do not have any substantial number of die-hard Evangelicals, Baptists, Pentecostals and whatnot who dominate large parts of the US. In Europe, they simply do not exist.
As the others here said, it various a lot between countries and even within countries.
Potentially, you could say that the further East and South you go, the more Christianity you will find.
If you go North and West, it is gone in most parts. However, again, this is a generalization and oversimplification.
There are places which remain very Catholic, like some rural areas in Poland, Austria, Germany, Italy, Spain.
One fact that many Americans are not aware of is that in Europe, Protestantism is done for. Completely.
We do not have any substantial number of die-hard Evangelicals, Baptists, Pentecostals and whatnot who dominate large parts of the US. In Europe, they simply do not exist.
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ATraveller
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If by numbers, then Christianity is waning in influence. I don’t and won’t use the term ‘dead’.
Europe is constantly criticized by Americans but I think they should take a good look at themselves too. The number of people who identify as ‘Christian’ is meaningless. The focus should be on the quality of discipleship rather than the number of people in the pews.
100 with lukewarm faith or just step inside a building because others do it every Sunday or 10 who love the Lord with all their hearts, souls and minds?
Europe is constantly criticized by Americans but I think they should take a good look at themselves too. The number of people who identify as ‘Christian’ is meaningless. The focus should be on the quality of discipleship rather than the number of people in the pews.
100 with lukewarm faith or just step inside a building because others do it every Sunday or 10 who love the Lord with all their hearts, souls and minds?
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SuperLuigi
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I’m not there now, but Eastern Europe is a lot different than Western and Northern Europe.
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0Scarlett_nidiyilii
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Is t it a strange quirk of human nature that although we think we want lots of freedom and license to do what we like, and yet the stricter religions are the ones that see growth!
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