Is communion really the body and blood of Christ

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I am very embarrassed to ask this question. I have been a catholic all of my life and when I was young we were told that the Eucherest is the body and blood of Christ. Now that I’m older and my daughter left the catholic church (this was one of the reasons for leaving) I am trying to find out how to get my “mind around” the whole concept of this being the actual body and blood of Christ after concetration. Can someone explain it in simple terms. Is it a symbol, or one of the things you just shouldn’t question and just accept. How is this explained to non - catholics converting to the catholic faith or like my daughter, leaving this faith for this reason? I would go to my priest but I’m too embarrassed.
 
Somethings we can’t explain, we can only accept with humility

Like why did God become truly human and accept death on a cross? It’s unbelievable to think that God died in human form!

The Eucharist is truly THE body and blood of Jesus in the form of bread and wine.

Read chapter 6 of the Gospel of John where Jesus again and again tell his disciples that they have to eat the Bread of Life, namely him. We read those words with today’s eyes, but to his disciples who were strict Jews, and had very strict dietary laws which included bleeding all the blood out of meat before cooking and eating, the thought of eating his body and drinking his blood must have been absolutely repulsive. If Jesus had not meant this he would have explained that he only meant it symbolically, but he just kept on telling them exactly what he meant. Eat my Body and Drink my Blood.
35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.
49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
52 Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”
 
I would strongly urge you to chat to your priest about it.

I remember that I started having spiritual guidence once a few years ago and the first session hardly went well for me because the words that were being used I kind of hadn’t a clue what the priest was on about.

I took this back to parish priest at that time in confession and very friendly he told me I did know what that priest was on about, just not used to the language he was using.

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the Wafer and Wine becomes the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ upon Consecration.

Some people do leave the Roman Catholic Church because they believe different. But that is what the church teaches. Don’t be embarrased to chat to your priest about it. He is there to help ‘us’ through our life with God and if he can help you grow a little bit stronger in what is happening in the Eucharist then he is doing what he is there to help you do.
 
Many left:

John 6:60
On hearing it, many of his disciples said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”
A few stayed:
66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
67 “You do not want to leave too, do you?” Jesus asked the Twelve.
68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”
 
Well, amazingly enough, Catholic Answers has recently dealt with this very question! A lot of Catholics get blindsided on this question and it can leave them ripe for being converted to Protestantism.

I am going to send for the DVD or CD so I can understand more - I mean, I totally believe what Jesus said is true, and I have faith that He knew EXACTLY what He meant - after all, He is GOD! But it’s always good to understand the attacks that we faith as Catholics.

Did Jesus Mean What He Said?
 
I am very embarrassed to ask this question. I have been a catholic all of my life and when I was young we were told that the Eucherest is the body and blood of Christ. Now that I’m older and my daughter left the catholic church (this was one of the reasons for leaving) I am trying to find out how to get my “mind around” the whole concept of this being the actual body and blood of Christ after concetration. Can someone explain it in simple terms. Is it a symbol, or one of the things you just shouldn’t question and just accept. How is this explained to non - catholics converting to the catholic faith or like my daughter, leaving this faith for this reason? I would go to my priest but I’m too embarrassed.
Michelle, please dont’ feel embarrassed, after over 50 years of being a Catholic I just recently found our myself the true meaning and still trying to deal with it. My Catholic family didn’t know either or my husbands family so we are not alone. I must say my Cathechism in the early 50’s was basic and didn’t get into it in dept, and at 8 years old probably the understanding wasn’t really there either, and well we did what our parents did.
It is still a problem I’m trying to work out and the Sacrifice of the Mass. Its hard to change our thinking I know. God Bless.🙂
 
I am very embarrassed to ask this question. I have been a catholic all of my life and when I was young we were told that the Eucherest is the body and blood of Christ. Now that I’m older and my daughter left the catholic church (this was one of the reasons for leaving) I am trying to find out how to get my “mind around” the whole concept of this being the actual body and blood of Christ after concetration. Can someone explain it in simple terms. Is it a symbol, or one of the things you just shouldn’t question and just accept. How is this explained to non - catholics converting to the catholic faith or like my daughter, leaving this faith for this reason? I would go to my priest but I’m too embarrassed.
Here is what the Bible says:

[BIBLEDRB]1 Corinthians 11:24-30[/BIBLEDRB]

If the Eucharist was a symbol, this warning would make absolutely no sense. If there is a statue of some politician that I don’t like, and I behead the statue, I am not going to get arrested for murder. Public nuisance, yes; vandalism, yes; but not murder. I’m not going to get the death penalty, and yet St. Paul is clear that this is what happens when someone profanes the Eucharist. You cannot be guilty for the body and blood of Christ unless the body and blood of Christ are actually there!

Now, how can the Eucharist be the Body and Blood (and Soul, and Divinity) of Christ if the Host looks, tastes, feels and seems like bread? Let’s say that there is a man who goes to the dry cleaners to pick up his suit. He accidentally brings home a police uniform. So when he’s at home and he takes out the uniform, he decides to live out his childhood fantasy of being a cop and puts on the uniform, and poses in front of the mirror.

Is he now a police officer? NO. He has the appearance of being a police officer (what is called the “accidents” of being a cop) but, in substance, what he really is–he is still just a guy. He could act like a cop but he would be lying to everyone and would be promptly arrested for impersonating an officer.

Same scenario but this time the person who picks up the uniform is a police cadet, and it’s his uniform which was a gift from his dad who is a cop. But he has not yet been sworn in as an officer. So it’s the same result: he has the accidents of a cop, but is not substantially a cop.

But when the cadet goes up on the stage in front of the commissioner and mayor and takes the oath of office, that is when he substantially becomes a cop. The mayor pronounces some words along the line of “by the authority vested in me I commission you as an officer of the City X police department” and it is those words that cause the change in substance from civilian to police officer. Notice that it makes no difference whatsoever whether or not the cadet is in his uniform when he is sworn in. If he wears a tuxedo to the swearing-in, he still becomes a cop once the mayor has sworn him in. If he’s wearing his uniform when he’s sworn in, and then he takes it off backstage, he does not cease to be a police officer in substance simply because he does not have the appearance of one (good news for the undercover department).

This exercise demonstrates the difference between the accidents and substance of the Host. The Eucharist is substantially the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ, even though It does not have the accidents of the Body or Blood of Christ. By means of a failing example, the Eucharist is analogous to the police cadet in the tux. The mayor “consecrates” him, so to speak, as a police officer by swearing him in. Even though he has his former appearance, he is no longer a civilian but is now an officer.

Here are five reasons why you should absolutely believe in Christ’s Real Presence in the Eucharist.
 
Think for a moment if you will back to the days when JESUS was in HIS last 3 years and teaching, evangelizing, curing, removing demons - the people ( just like you and I today ) had to decide, " is this man, really GOD"?

On the one hand they had the teachings, the miracles, all the things that said “yes, no mere man can do what this man is doing, so HE must be GOD”

On the other hand they had the Pharisee’s and Saducee’s and the whole Jewish religious leaders attacking JESUS and declaring that HE is not GOD, in fact HE is being blasphemous - and further - that if you accepted JESUS as saviour, then you would be thrown out of the Jewish faith - a very, very painful penalty.

And after all that when was it finally and truly settled for most? After JESUS resurrected.

So, today we look at the HOST and ask ourselves “is this piece of unleavened bread really GOD”? And in fact that decision for us is as hard as it was for the original Isrealites and believers, and the threat of acknowleding that JESUS is the HOST is increasing in this world today with attacks by amoral groups i.e. atheist, planned parenthood, etc.

So how do we today come to “our” understanding? First, you need to believe that JESUS is GOD. That is the first big step. If you cannot get to that point, then the rest is moot. I would suggest you get your daughert the book by Lee Strobel “The Case for Christ”. It is written from the prespective of a crime reporter, who was an aethiest at the time and intended to disprove JESUS. Second, I would recommend you attend the RCIA in your parish as a “refresher course”. And third I would suggest that you relearn the Rosary and make it a daily family time and prayer. Your love and learning curve for JESUS will expotentially increase by asking HIS Mother Mary to help you.

Once you believe that JESUS is GOD, and thus can do anything, anyway, anytime for anyreason, then the next step is to “believe in faith” that JESUS can make HIMSELF BREAD for us, and that HE does wish to have such an intimate and personal relationship with us as to give HIMSELF - HIS actualy BODY and BLOOD to us, so that for a few short minutes, HE is part of us, and we part of HIM. The EUCHARIST is the foundation of “the personal relationship” with JESUS.

HE gave HIS BODY and BLOOD on the cross for all sinners, and today HE gives HIS BODY and BLOOD in the EUCHARIST for all believers.

I find those who do not believe in the TRUE PRESENCE have in fact been unable to believe that JESUS is GOD, they are in fact athiests in heart and are refusing to give to GOD all the power and love that is HIS by being GOD - not by our understanding. They in fact make GOD “all man” without being “all GOD” and thus no man can be bread.

Your daughter is an atheist who does not believe that JESUS is GOD, because no “man can be bread”, and thus JESUS cannot be GOD. It is not that she does not believe the EUCHARIST, it is that she does not understand or believe in the ONE, true GOD.

Pray for her through the Rosary and asking the HOLY SPIRIT to intercede through her darkness and confussion as HE did on the day of Pentecost for the Apostles. Her beliefs are not yours. Her actions are not yours. Her soul is not yours, but as her parent, you are responsible for always praying for her soul.

And I would suggest you purchase a book on EUCHARISTIC Miracles that have occurred through the centuries, you will find it an amazing read and a strength in your believing.
 
I find those who do not believe in the TRUE PRESENCE have in fact been unable to believe that JESUS is GOD, they are in fact athiests in heart and are refusing to give to GOD all the power and love that is HIS by being GOD - not by our understanding. They in fact make GOD “all man” without being “all GOD” and thus no man can be bread.

I will take the above as you not meaning it. Because I believe in the Real Presence Spiritually (mystery) and I do not believe in transubstantiation does not mean I am an
Athiest, and I take offense at that and also to insinuate the OP’s dtr is one as well and
not even knowing her, is well I just don’t know what to say, except that is not a Christian thing to say. By the way , just because you believe in transubstantiation does not make you a Christian.
 
I will take the above as you not meaning it. Because I believe in the Real Presence Spiritually (mystery)
What does that mean?

What does your church do with the leftover communion elements?
 
You need to read my whole post, thank you, I think its clear.🙂
No, it’s not clear at all. Either Christ is present or He isn’t. A spiritual presence IS a real presence because the spiritual is more real than the physical. This world is like the Matrix. It exists in a temporal reality. Meanwhile there is another reality that is above it and transcends it and interacts with it. It is an eternal reality that is not confined by time or space and it is the domain of God, the angels and the saints. When you say “spiritual” you are referring to this reality. But it is still a reality, and more real than the physical world.

Therefore when you are saying that Christ is spiritually present in Holy Communion you are saying He is as really present in the Host as an angel would be right before you.

So be honest with yourself and with us, please.

Do you believe in the Real Presence or not?
 
I’m quite sure if you read post 11 you will know my thoughts on this.🙂
 
I’m quite sure if you read post 11 you will know my thoughts on this.🙂
Well, besides taking personally Julian’s charge that disbelieving the Real Presence equals atheism (I would revise that to say that disbelieving spiritual reality in general equals atheism because God is a spiritual realty), the rest of Post 11 is:
Because I believe in the Real Presence Spiritually (mystery) and I do not believe in transubstantiation… just because you believe in transubstantiation does not make you a Christian.
You really didn’t say anything or answer any questions. Do you believe that the spiritual is real and do you believe that applies to the Eucharist?
 
Yes of course, but as your aware I"m sure Catholics believe its more than spiritual. 🙂
 
Yes of course, but as your aware I"m sure Catholics believe its more than spiritual. 🙂
Well, wouldn’t you be obligated to bow down and worship Christ if He was spiritually present before you?
 
Anytime anyone receives Holy Communion they need to do it respectfully, no matter what Church they are receiving it in.
 
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