Is confession and confirmation the same as getting saved?

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Sounds like a good deal. It’s doable. Self control is difficult for me
 
I’m surprised that she manages to keep men interested in her without sleeping with her.
 
There’s an old saying that goes something like “they pursued her and she ignored them, they ignored her, and she fell in love.” Kind of think the truth in that works both ways. Sometimes the thing people want the most, is the things they cannot have. It’s part of why girls and women fall for the “bad boys”. Again, it might just work the other way too.
 
I thought that was a good incentive to stay chaste. You know a man is not just interested in you for sex.
 
There are disadvantages of being open and receptive. When I say you I mean you in general. You shouldn’t be so closed off to other’s opinions but at the same time it’s not always good to give others the opportunity to speak. I guess I could ignore or avoid the conversation. It’s because I sound misinformed, confused, and ignorant of my own religion that attracts those sort of conversations.
 
Well, then, set a goal for yourself to learn more about your Catholic faith.
You sound to me like you mostly lack integrity and courage. Pray for the grace to have the courage of your convictions. Above all, Catholicism is not merely keeping rules but love of God and His will. Pray for faith, hope, and love.
Do you go to daily Mass, at least monthly Confession, and say the Rosary every day? If you really want to overcome the sins you speak of, I guarantee this will do it.
 
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Avoid the sin of lust. Don’t be alone with a man at any time . Don’t visit pornographic sites. Keep yourself busy and pray always. Attend Mass on Sunday every week . If you have committed venial or mortal sins, then go to Confession so that God will absolve you from your sins.
 
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Should I only go to confession if I want to stop my sin? I confess because I know it’s wrong but I don’t want to stop completely.

“Give me chastity not just yet.”

I haven’t completely stopped lying. I don’t like it or exaggerating. I honestly doubt I’ll stop lying for the rest of my life.
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We are not saved while alive. We are only saved if we die in a state of grace. Baptism is necessary for salvation but not sufficient on its own unless you die immediately after being baptised.
 
In my opinion, you should go to confession when you’re conscious of sinning and are sorry for sinning, even though you’re not feeling able to give them up completely. When you’re in confession, speak to the priest about it as he’ll be able to give you better advice because he’ll have had so much more experience in dealing with this issue, and priests are very understanding. The practice of confession helps to overcome sinning, or at least I’ve found it helpful.

Sin, especially sexual sin, has this hold over us and prevents us from wanting to stop. Maybe once you find a permanent partner it’ll become so much easier for you.
I think it would help if you try to learn more about the damage caused by sin. I don’t use the word damage lightly, either… from my own perspective I’ve been damaged by sexual sin because I still feel saddened by my past behaviour, at times. It comes in waves of feeling deep shame and guilt and sorrow. This damage isn’t only an inward thing, either… you become aware that you’ve led others to sin, too, as well as offending God.

To stop ourselves from sinning is a process, btw, it’s not something that we master overnight. We’re growing in faith and love all the time and we get a better understanding of sin, and our attitude towards it, as we go on. And we get a better understanding of what real love is.
 
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adults in a committed relationship practicing safe consensual sex.
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Commited to what? Each other? If that’s the case then what’s stopping marriage? Is it a committed relationship for now ? The problem with having sex in a temporal relationship isn’t to do with maturity. No matter the age or the people the neurotransmitters in the brain react the same way. When you have sex a brew of chemicals and hormones are released. This causes a deep, non logical affection. Which keeps people attached to their partner outside of their realm of reason. People marry while under these conditions and once their logical reasoning starts kicking in years down the road; they begin to open their eyes to reality. Sex is a powerful sort of brain wash . It’s important to know your partner before you start mixing it with this intimate act. Anthropologist Helen Fisher says it takes as long as two years till you really start knowing your partner. People can and do hide things from partners. Whether it be personality quirks, habits, emotional warfare etc… Accepting that sex is for marriage is like listening to advice a parents gives. We think we know better and don’t learn till we get hurt, others it takes a lifetime of hurt. God is our parent and God didn’t make these rules to punish us; God made them to guide us. God knows our brain, knows how we are. It’s in our best interest to trust him which is like telling your child to listen to their parents. Not an easy task for most. 😅
 
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I don’t want to go to hell
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good point

I personally don’t know anyone who if asked, “wants” to go to hell. Yet I know plenty of people who live as if hell doesn’t exist, and particularly doesn’t exist for THEM
 
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To make a valid confession, one must be truly sorry for their sins, and have a FIRM PURPOSE OF AMENDMENT. That means you can’t have a attachment to sin, and you definitely, have to plan to stop sinning.
 
Go to confession because you know sin is wrong and because you love God.
 
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You’re not the first person to refer me to a priest. It looks like I cannot manage my own life by seeking help. I probably should stop expressing myself online, even more opinions to encounter. I wonder how some people keep questions, doubts and inconsistences and confusion in their head.
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I don’t think anyone thinks that about you at all. Sometimes we all need to talk, and I think folks just want you to be taken care of.
 
I have been saved, I am being saved, I shall be saved. Salvation is a process.
 
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A Protestant asked me if I had been saved. I exposed my ignorance by stating I didn’t know what that even means.
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This is a wise answer, since it means different things to different people. The Catholic concept of being saved is different from most Protestants.
 
Many of us not only thought that, we were TAUGHT that!

Thing is, praying “Lord, take from me everything that keeps me from becoming a saint” every day is a prayer that will be answered.

Like the tree shedding leaves in the fall, the dead leaves don’t all vanish at once. Some fall today, some next week, some are forced off by rain and win, and others hang on all through the winter. The beauty is that come spring the new life will push out those hardened old dead leaves.

We are not required to go out and pluck the leaves from the trees. God has a perfect method.

Same goes for our sinful nature. Be open to God, keep doing what you are supposed to do, pray, trust, receive the sacraments, one day you will wake up and find beautiful new green leaves have replaced the dead, ugly sins (even the ones that held on through the winter).
 
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