Is Darwin's Theory of Evolution True? Part 4.0

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Ignore St Augustine’s quotes then.

Good. Over and over you will see Magisterial teachings and documents that are against evolution and actually support design. The church has always understood God as a designer.
 
Once again - you are really an ad hominem guy. Always trash the source but not deal with the argument.
 
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Ignore St Augustine’s quotes then.

Good. Over and over you will see Magisterial teachings and documents that are against evolution and actually support design. The church has always understood God as a designer.
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There is a big difference in God the Creator who designed according to his Word and what’s meant by Intelligent Design. For example, I believe in Creation so by extension shouldn’t if follow that I’m also a “creationist” as the term is expressed by fundamentalists?
 
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Chixulub.

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The emission of dust and particles could have covered the entire surface of the Earth for several years, possibly a decade, creating a harsh environment for living things.

It takes evolution millions of years to do anything about it…too late to be of any value.
 
You are going to give me some post references…

and I gave 3 posts on church teaching. 1972, 1973 and 1974 that you did not affirm.
 
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That’s OK, Scott2, I don’t mind, as I think what the rationalists say is sinking in further than we see on the surface. As the fragile creationist arguments fall apart on the calm solidity of science, they fall back on abuse, wisecracks, and the mere repetition of their childhood security mantras. Don’t look at their arguments, as they have none, look at how they present them. There’s hope for Christ yet.
 
You referred to The Genesis Tablet Theory after I asked you who observed the first 5 days of Creation in Genesis 1. I asked you to present your theory and you replied with Revelation. Sorry, that doesn’t cut it. The Genesis Tablet Theory is protestant fundamentalism. I did a quick search and that’s all that came up. Where does the Church teach “The Genesis Tablet Theory”
 
So the earliest humans were most perfectly shaped in God’s image. God is black, then?
 
Here we go again.

JEPD is Protestant too…

The colophon phrases are there for all to see.

Yes, Revelation is witness. What is the problem?
 
And what is the mechanism of that design? How does that design become manifest in the world?

Step 1: God wills it
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Speciation

Unless ID is prepared to fill in that second step, then Evolution will keep running circles around it. You say ID makes more sense. Okay, show that is actually explains ANYTHING.

My position is this: whatever is real, then a Creator God made it that way. If the physical rules guide the development of species, then THAT is the mechanism by which God has chosen to make His will manifest. So learn what is real, comfortable that the truth is never at odds with the Lord.
 
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Catholic teaching is our first parents Adam and Eve were prototypical with preternatural gifts of bodily immortality, freedom from sickness and irregular desire and infused knowledge. They lost these gifts after they committed the original sin.

Skin color is an adaptation to sunlight exposure. Presumably Adam and Eve did not yet have this adaptation.
 
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Here we go again.

JEPD is Protestant too…

The colophon phrases are there for all to see.

Yes, Revelation is witness. What is the problem?
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The problem is you insisted that evolution was not observed by humans to I think Hugh but "the light of Genesis was. Ok who observed it if Adam was created on the 6th day. You respond with Revelation.

How do you square that with the Church’s criticism of Fundamentalism in Interpretation of the Bible in the Church:
“The fundamentalist approach is dangerous, for it is attractive to people who look to the Bible for ready answers to the problems of life. It can deceive these people, offering them interpretations that are pious but illusory, instead of telling them that the Bible does not necessarily contain an immediate answer to each and every problem. Without saying as much in so many words, fundamentalism actually invites people to a kind of intellectual suicide. It injects into life a false certitude, for it unwittingly confuses the divine substance of the biblical message with what are in fact its human limitations.”

Just like we might say a painting was inspired by the Holy Spirit to communicate a divine substance/meaning the Church teaches the Bible also does.
 
Speciation is a loss of function. That is how man defines it. Genesis records that God created the original types from which all types we see can arise.

Your starting premise is wrong.
 
Adaptation, huh? So God’s “real” form is white, because Adam was created in His image, and black skin wasn’t yet needed?

But wait. . . wouldn’t Jesus, being a middle-eastern man, been dark-skinned? But then. . . Jesus is not created in God’s image. Paradox, no?
 
Nobody, anywhere, defines speciation as a loss of function.

My starting premise is that God wills there to be different species. Is that wrong?
 
Yes, God observed it (since He didddit) and passed that knowledge on. The tablet theory says He wrote it down on clay tablets. Since Adam had infused knowledge it might have come to him that way. The tablet may have preserved it for Moses when he compiled the Pentateuch.

I interpret Scripture as the Church has for centuries.

26 God said, ‘Let us make man in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild animals and all the creatures that creep along the ground.’

27 God created man in the image of himself, in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them.
 
God is immaterial. The second person is Jesus who was born of a human, was human and is the last Adam. Once again skin color is an adaptation. Even a white person today can go out in the sun and turn brown.

Jesus is God.
 
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