Is Darwin's Theory of Evolution True? Part 4.0

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“Goodness” is dependent on a goal: that is good which serves a good goal, and bad which goes against it.

Subjective goodness is dependent on the nature of each individual-- that which makes you feel good or serves your ambitions is “good.” Objective goodness depends on some kind of system in which acts go against a more important goal-- God’s plan, for example.

It’s quite obvious that evolutionary responses are often very bad. Lust, gluttony, pride. . . all these things are what you’d expect from a monkey, not a fully-conscious spiritually-minded person. So why do Catholics have confession? It’s because our nature is divided: between the animal goals of evolution, and the more aware goals of the mind and possibly the spirit.
 
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Yeah, I’m not sure why there’s so much discord.

Ask a scientist for a theory of mind-- the actual mechanism of it, not some explanation of how important it is. Ask a scientist how one can determine any given system actually HAS mind-- a true subjective mind that experiences what things are like.

Not only is there not a really good theory of mind, there isn’t even a way to prove that there’s such a THING as mind, through physical observation alone. There’s no explanation of why matter, under any configuration or process, should become aware of itself.

Morality is the wrong tree to bark up for Catholics trying to demonstrate the need for religion. Morality is very much about the behavioral expressions of the physical form. I think pyschogony (the existence of mind) is much better.
 
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Humans desire good, love, truth and beauty. Religion is the way. Catholicism is way better than anything else.
 
You’re ability to understand science is limited to your ability to research it. If all you want to do is have kindergarten scientific understanding of reality, then keep playing with blocks to run your gravity experiments. The philosophical scientific process that brought you an understanding of gravity is the exact same process that science takes to all the other areas of science. If educators didn’t have the ethics to publish their processes and explain how they do things, you would be throwing your chickens at their feet and begging for a “laying on hands” healing with their vaccines and antibiotics. Which are all, by-the-way, able to work due to our understanding and research of the fact of evolution. Evolution is no longer a debate. How to implement it into our world is the on going debate.
Best part about science is that it presents reality for what it is, not how you wish it to be.
 
Let’s examine:

Gravity - observable, repeatable, predictable

Evolution - not observable, definitely not repeatable, and definitely not predictable
 

Seriously, this is embarrassing to the human race that this is still a debate.
 
The debate is bigger than you know. The modern synthesis has fallen.

I have posted ad nauseum how bacteria have resistance.
 
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Arguing about evolution here is like electricians going to the UN to argue about world geo-politics. It’s cute, but they are not the experts in that field. All this does is show the experts in their field where they are lacking in educating the non-experts on their subject. Take your position to the lab and see if you can break the current understanding of evolution. If you can, science will applaud you since that is what science does in the lab. They are constantly trying to break the best model presented. If they can’t, then it reinforces that model as being the current best understanding of reality. Go be the next person to be remembered as much as darwin, the guy that broke darwin’s idea.
On a side note, the ego of people who think they know better than the scientific experts always is predictable. They seriously think that they have come up with a problem that the experts have not heard about and have not addressed. The experts either can not address that question yet or have and are moving on.
 
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Actually, electrical engineers are very precise and great designers.

I have linked the science and I really can’t believe you jump in with that video.
 
Look up “drug discovery.” It has nothing to do with evolution. And human beings - we’re nothing more than biological robots, including our brains. If our bodies evolved - somehow - so did our brains. Labels like mind, consciousness, beliefs, and other behaviors are all the products of so-called evolution. The end.

God forbid
 
I went to a specialized school for electronics. Our final exam was being given a box of parts, a chassis and a diagram. We had to build a radio. No mistakes allowed. My instructor came up to me, picked up my radio and connected a battery. It worked. I passed.
 
Electrical engineers have no tolerance for noise. Mutations are noise and must be minimized. Noise always degrades the output.

What do we see in living systems? Noise correction systems. My oh my.
 
The smaller an electrical device is, everything must be done to suppress noise, including any electrical spikes from the power supply. I have two magnets in the wiring to my computer to ‘smooth out’ unwanted fluctuations. A human cell is many times more precise and highly regulated. It has sensors in the cell wall.
 
It’s amazing this has gone into the fourth round, yet it seems made up of all the regulars with a few newbies trickling in and out.

All are laymen, and have pretty much made up their minds already. Just like the back and forth I guess, unless some argument has moved the needle for you.

Good luck anyhow, I think I’ve had my fill until science or the Church comes out with anything new on the subject. Good luck all!
 
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Electrical engineers have no tolerance for noise. Mutations are noise and must be minimized. Noise always degrades the output.

What do we see in living systems? Noise correction systems. My oh my.
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Many switch mode power supplies explicitly add noise to their switching mechanisms in order to mitigate EMI. The noise spreads the emitted switch frequency and harmonics to lower energy at a coherent, potentially interfering frequency.
 
I don’y know about that. I was at work on the weekend and heard a loud noise. I went out to where I thought it should be and smelled burnt insulation. I recognized the sound as a power supply failure. Our tech guy wasn’t in but he later agreed.

“Disadvantages include greater complexity, the generation of high-amplitude, high-frequency energy that the low-pass filter must block to avoid electromagnetic interference (EMI), a ripple voltage at the switching frequency and the harmonic frequencies thereof.”
 
Science has come along and more will surface. The Darwinian gig is up. Stay focused on the programming of life and the complex machinery that makes life run.

The Church will remain silent.
 
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