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Glark
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I don’t know. It’s a real mystery. Perhaps one the resident evo’s can enlighten us as to why it’s so very importance.
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IWantGod
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So you are making fun of how God created the universe to behave?
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Glark
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My gift is in the mail. Hope yez appreciate it; it cost me a bundle!
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IWantGod
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Because Evolution is true, and people that don’t agree are not content with disbelieving but rather they feel the need to demonize any Christian that agrees with evolution. I couldn’t care less if you believe in evolution or not to be honest. If you want to be a YEC that’s your Bag. But what you cannot do is claim that those who support the theory of evolution are acting against the Catholic Faith. Catholic Theology clearly does not support that point of view.
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Glark
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I would call evolution a belief system. It certainly isn’t science as it relies heavily on assumptions and speculation.
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Glark
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In one of his songs, Paul Simon describes a horse as “God’s immaculate machine”.
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Glark
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Evolution has a theological basis? I wonder what that could be.
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Glark
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There is no scientific basis for evolution - it’s a product of atheism, ie, evolution must have happened because there is no God.
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IWantGod
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You can assert that for every so called natural event that has ever occurred. What you have written here is a complete conspiracy theory with no real substance. No scientist has ever argued that evolution is true because God does not exist.
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Glark
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I think the evolution of tadpoles into frogs says it all about Darwinism.
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Glark
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You’re the expert, so can you explain why some folks spend a great deal of their lives studying how all life on earth supposedly evolved from microbes, when this belief/conclusion/theory has not even one practical scientific use?
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Glark
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If it wasn’t God, it was my guardian angel. It definitely wasn’t me or any other human. To cut a long story short, if not for that voice - which was an urgent warning - I wouldn’t be here now. That voice saved my life.
I’ve also experienced a vison which showed me the future.
That’s my grand total of supernatural experiences - just the two.
I’ve also experienced a vison which showed me the future.
That’s my grand total of supernatural experiences - just the two.
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Glark
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What is “Christian fundamentalism”?
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Aloysium
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This is rather cryptic. I’m not sure what you mean, but i do think that the images associated with that transformation are used to make sense of the diversification of life to people who think about how evolution might work.
The reality is that there is one tadpole-frog, but many different organisms represented within the tree of life. It is one of those wonders of nature that do require more than a simplistic evolutionary explanation.
A frog’s physical development is preprogrammed in the material reality of its genome; and no such physical entity exists in the first single-cell creatures that are considered to be our original ancestors by evolutionary theorists. The structure for all of it exists outside the physical, created by the Word of God, originating in the mind of God.
And, how it happened is not through the random action of chemical processes, which were rather shaped by God, as one takes bricks and mortars to build a home, in the creation of new organisms expressing the nature of their species.
Hopefully, one does not relate to other people or animals as collections of cells or atoms. There exists a person, a cat, a dog, a bird at the feeder, a salmon in the stream, a growing wisteria vine, that is the reality of the particular living being. That being, brought into existence by God, is whole in itself as a collection of parts under the organizational principle of its soul, which is individual and defines its kind.
The growing complexity that is found ontologically and temporally is all about creation, not transformation of one thing - matter.
Where we do see a transformation, miraculous really, if not for the deadening of our ability to appreciate the mysteries of existence, is the caterpillar and butterfly. If we think of them as separate beings, that might be a better image to bear in mind as to how God brought forth new, some very, very different forms of of life utilizing the information of previously created creatures.
Thus, the first placental creature could have been hatched from an egg or created whole, as the first of its kind. We can’t know.
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Glark
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In other words, you believe it’s a fact that all life evolved from microbes. I’m wondering how you can possibly demonstrate that your belief is a fact.
You could have fooled me.
I’m not a YEC.
Your idea of the Catholic Faith might be different to mine.
Your idea of Catholic theology might be different to mine.
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IWantGod
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Your view of catholic theology is not just different to mine it is different to the church.
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Aloysium
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Thanks for sharing; you are far braver than me.
There’s too much of this stuff in life.
Whatever the motivation, afraid to hope perhaps, the response to an attempt to communicate something of supreme importance actually, ends up revealing only a deep chasm that exists between us.
Imagine God, who sent His only son, and in return we continue to present Him with this broken world.
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ericc
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The Church believes in truth. Evolution is true. Nature does evolve through various mechanisms, blindly, that results in “adaptation” which in fact actually is the reaction of the organisms to its environment. Microevolution exists. The sun for instance is the cause of many forms of mutation through its radiation and various wavelengths. Chemicals in the soil and air can also be a cause of mutation. This is undirected and how organisms mutate depends on a whole host of factors, combinations, timing, amounts, DNA profile, biological profile etc. And this goes on and on and on. And this is uncontestably true.
However, the Church does not accept as truth the many claims of evolution. Folks chanting the magic word of “evolution” claims that it is the source of everything living aka tree of life and recently downgraded to bush. There is no truth in that claim. Drawing lines connecting dots of a few bones here and there does not make something the ancestor of the other. Seeing commonality among different species does not necessarily lead to the claim of common ancestorship. Someone playing with lego blocks could create many different objects using the same lego blocks. A smart and efficient programmer reuse common codes for similar functions. Ask any programmer. I think DNA of the various species has been indeed programmed by a very intelligent PROGRAMMER.
NATURE is just a name for the physical world. It doesn’t posses any innate intelligence to do anything at all. It is just there, existing.
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Techno2000
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Darwin probably extrapolated that everything worked that way.curious_cath:
I think the evolution of tadpoles into frogs says it all about Darwinism.
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Techno2000
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I too have had supernatural experiences…human reason can’t understand it.
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