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So the Okapi was shielded from other life-threatening problems? For how long? This time, time works against the idea. “It survived because it survived” is not an explanation.
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In an earlier post, he said:
The okapi should have died out because the giraffe was superior.
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Most mammal species go extinct after a million years on average. I am not sure how long Okapi have been around.
Dodos lived on an island. They were shielded for a long time until sailors found the island and introduced rats who ate their eggs. Then they went extinct. If an environment does not change, then there is little danger of extinction for organisms that are well adapted to that environment. When the environment changes then it is either adapt or die. Dodos died; humans are adapting to malaria.
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Dodos lived on an island. They were shielded for a long time until sailors found the island and introduced rats who ate their eggs. Then they went extinct. If an environment does not change, then there is little danger of extinction for organisms that are well adapted to that environment. When the environment changes then it is either adapt or die. Dodos died; humans are adapting to malaria.
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The Okapi is superior in a forested environment; the giraffe is superior in savanna. Being “superior” is not an absolute, but relative to the environment. Dolphins are superior to humans at surviving in the sea. Humans are superior to dolphins at surviving on land.
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You are changing your argument.qui_est_ce:
The Okapi is superior in a forested environment; the giraffe is superior in savanna. Being “superior” is not an absolute, but relative to the environment. Dolphins are superior to humans at surviving in the sea. Humans are superior to dolphins at surviving on land.
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Techno2000
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Can you explain how the plankton eating Whale, caused all its previous evolutionary incarnations to die out ?qui_est_ce:
The Okapi is superior in a forested environment; the giraffe is superior in savanna. Being “superior” is not an absolute, but relative to the environment. Dolphins are superior to humans at surviving in the sea. Humans are superior to dolphins at surviving on land.
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Techno2000
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How do you know what live in forest and what live in the savanna billions of years ago ?
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Let me get this one.
First of all, “improved” is not really the right word in evolutionary terms. “Better adapted to its environment” is more accurate.
Which is better for people, to have white skin or to have black skin? Well. . . if you are going to be in a very hot climate, black skin is better. If you are going to be in a very cold climate, white skin is better. You don’t have to argue that either is “better.”
First of all, “improved” is not really the right word in evolutionary terms. “Better adapted to its environment” is more accurate.
Which is better for people, to have white skin or to have black skin? Well. . . if you are going to be in a very hot climate, black skin is better. If you are going to be in a very cold climate, white skin is better. You don’t have to argue that either is “better.”
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Techno2000
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That argument is only skin deep.
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There is nothing inconsistent about this. If proto-giraffes and proto-okapi are sharing the same environmental niche and interbreeding, one or the other would die out. But as often happens, mutated animals gravitate to the environment where they are better suited and breed only with others who made the same move. This separates proto-giraffes and proto-okapi from directly competing and so both survive in their appropriate niche.rossum:
You are changing your argument.qui_est_ce:
The Okapi is superior in a forested environment; the giraffe is superior in savanna. Being “superior” is not an absolute, but relative to the environment. Dolphins are superior to humans at surviving in the sea. Humans are superior to dolphins at surviving on land.
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buffalo
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45 Do not imagine that I am going to accuse you before the Father: you have placed your hopes on Moses, and Moses will be the one who accuses you.
46 If you really believed him you would believe me too, since it was about me that he was writing;
47 but if you will not believe what he wrote, how can you believe what I say?
46 If you really believed him you would believe me too, since it was about me that he was writing;
47 but if you will not believe what he wrote, how can you believe what I say?
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Yes, so many have gone extinct because of deleterious mutations.
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Jesus said
45 Do not imagine that I am going to accuse you before the Father: you have placed your hopes on Moses, and Moses will be the one who accuses you.
46 If you really believed him you would believe me too, since it was about me that he was writing;
47 but if you will not believe what he wrote, how can you believe what I say?
45 Do not imagine that I am going to accuse you before the Father: you have placed your hopes on Moses, and Moses will be the one who accuses you.
46 If you really believed him you would believe me too, since it was about me that he was writing;
47 but if you will not believe what he wrote, how can you believe what I say?
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Techno2000
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That’s odd the okapi and the giraffe are both fit for their environment.
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For their separate environments.
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That God created for them…
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rossum
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It didn’t. Baleen whales, which mainly eat krill and similar, evolved from toothed whales, and toothed whales are still around.
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There were no mammals billions of years ago. Both okapi and giraffes evolved after the dinosaurs died out. There was no forest because trees had not yet evolved. Neither had grasses, so there wasn’t any savanna either.
Your question is “not even wrong”.
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Different environments. There is more than one environment on Earth. How well suited are you to living deep in the ocean with the Anglerfish? They are suited to that environment, while you are not. Giraffes and Okapis are suited to different environments.
Was that really so very difficult?
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