Is Depression a Sin?

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I suffer with depression and Have for as long as I can remember! I take medicine but still get that way. I’m thinking of getting on mood stablizers next time I see my doctor. Anyway I have good days! The last two weeks have been good! I listen to catholic radio during the day and that cheers me up and keeps my sprits up! I pray alot and I know I have to keep going, with a positive adittude! It is a sin I believe to kill yourself, so I have to keep going, God didn’'t get me this far to give up! If anyone is lives in Houston please email me, I’m looking for positive people to enrich me life, so I can also enrich their’s.I live on Memorial near Dairy ashford.

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Minerva:
I think the link fergal posted exemplifies exactly the wrong approach to depression. Depression is a medical condition. Telling someone to pray when they feel depressed is not going to do anything if that person has a chemical imbalance. I was particularly displeased to see the reference to St Paul and how he didn’t get depressed or PTSD because he had faith in Christ. How do you think this makes someone with PTSD and depression (such as myself) feel? I didn’t get this illness because I lacked faith in Christ - I got it because of my genes and a situation I found myself in. Certainly prayer and faith have helped me cope with my problems - but they are no replacement for therapy and drugs.
I agree - however, we could put it that God uses drugs and therapy to help us.
Long ago I started feeling awful – anxious, “itchy,” jumping out of my skin. I knew my doctor couldn’t help because my symptoms were too vague. I prayed, and got the strong feeling that the answer was Vitamin E. I strarted taking it (400 units daily) and my icky feelings went away. I know that God led me to this answer to my physical needs.
 
Is having a cold a sin? Is having the flu a sin? Depression is an illness, just as much as the flu, chicken pox, or cancer.

Why would anyone be so harsh, judgemental, mean, and just plain ignorant to think it’s a sin?
 
I know three people who have for years had what is called clinical depression. Two are Manic Depressive.

NO ONE ASKED TO SUFFER FROM DEPRESSION!

NO ONE WANTS TO CONTENUE IN A DEPRESSIVE STATE!

IT IS VERY REAL, it is to be thought of the same as a disease that is treatable. Fifty years ago before modern medications , some of them were locked up in mental hospitals. Most can function at work and school with medication.

Manic Depression IS NOT a sin.
 
How could depression be a sin? Sin has to be a choice, but people don’t choose depression. On the other hand, depression can lead to sin, by making people more irritable, angry, sucidal, impatient or selfish. If a person can’t help doing something wrong because of mental illness, it isn’t a sin - but if they could treat the illness and refuse to, they are responsible for sins caused by the illness. I’ve suffered from depression all my life, but medication helped me. After I became a Catholic, I started thinking that taking medication was a ‘cop out’ and stopped taking it. However, off medication I am prone to violent rages. I tried to control them for years, and prayed for help, but could not. Eventually I came to realised that, for me, being off medication is a near occasion of sin. I am less likely to sin when I’m taking meds, therefore taking them is the right thing to do. Cop out? Is it a cop out for a single person to avoid hot & heavy make out sessions, or an alcoholic to avoid even a sip of wine?
 
Depression, to me, is the equivalent of being

run over by an 18 wheeler…it can bring in it’s wake
a lowness of spirit, a sense of “what’s the use”,
a feeling of the purposelessness of life…nothing seems
to make sense - and a fatigue of mind and body that
sometimes makes taking a shower seem like
a climb up Mt. Everest.

It is droll, to me, to think of saying to the vicitm
of the 18 wheeler: “Have faith! It will heal you!”
Are you* kidding*?? Even medication has only
reduced the depression to the tolerable level.

So, I’ve learned to pray:
“Glory to God, no matter how I feel.”

reen12

I pray to the God of Israel and hope that Jesus
is the Messiah.
 
One of the many things that drives me crazy about having depression is I don’t know and can’t tell what I’m responsible and not responsible for in regard to sin. Did I do something deliberately or was it the chemical imbalance? Was it the meds or the lack of meds? I’m not looking for an “easy out,” but I sure would like to know when I’m guilty of something and when something was really out of my hands. It sure makes the Christian life, and especially the life of a Christian sinner, problematic.
 
Dear seeker63,

You know how you can look at the same situation
from a different angle and see something totally new?

I hear what you’re saying. It no longer is a difficulty
for me, because I just trust God to know what is
actually the case with me, and I try, each day, each
hour, sometimes, to do the best I can within the
limitations caused by depression. [for me, fatigue,
irritability, lack of concentration, difficulty getting
motivated to do anything, disrupted sleep patterns…]

As a Christian, you can sit at the foot of the cross,
lean on it, and let the mercy of Jesus become real
for you. Do you know what I mean?
It is looking at the same situation from a different
angle. As an opportunity to let Jesus
“be” for you. And Who would assess our actions,
[or inactions!] more mercifully than we ourselves do? Jesus.

Depression, to me, is a spiritual opportunity to
grow closer to God and learn to rely on His mercy,
His grace…especially when I feel overwhelmed with
fatigue.

Maureen [reen12]
 
i dont think depression is a sin although self pity might be. this seems rather insignificant compared to other peoples stories here but has anyone ever heard of a lack of sunlight causing depression. here in michigan we only get about four months of bad sledding weather and the rest of the year is really rather dreary. when i go without sunlight for a long time i seem to get very depressed.
 
I don’t want to vote! There are so many differient etiologies (causes or contributing factors) to depression. I say this as a Child and Family Therapist and a person who suffers from depression. Lack of exercise, poor eating habits, irregular schedules, poor choices in music, books, or TV, isolation… All these can contribute to depression. Can these be sinful? It’s possible.
There is also a genetic component to depression. I have a family history of depression. This has affected me in in multiple ways. There are the genes passed on and there are the effects of being raised in a family with depressed people. We can not pass on to others what we do not have ourselves.
Praise be to God that there is hope for the hopeless! Regular exercise, good eating habits, regular prayer, regular confession, good spiritual direction, Holy Mass, scripture reading, cognitive therapy, education, and antidepressants all work together to help me live with depression.
My question would be: Does sin contribute to depression?
Definitely! When someone is separated from God he/she is heading for a fall in more ways than one. Only in God can we know how infinitely wonderful and beautiful God has made us to be!
 
As a person that suffers from Bi-Polar Disorder, I hear this argument very often. And, it is incredibly offensive. Depression, Mania, BPD, and other mental disorders are created by an internal, chemical imbalance. This can only be treated with medication. Although, prayer helps. My family prays for me. My fiance’ prays for me. And I pray for myself. I pray that today, I feel better than yesterday, and hope to have a tomorrow. I pray for my family. I pray for loved ones passed. I pray for those in Purgatory. I pray for our Pope. And I take medication everyday. If Depression is a sin, I think that we need to re-look at that definition.

Thank you…
 
Hi, ChristoperMich,

Rock-solid, genitically based depression is a
Mount Everest that needs grace, faith and the
understanding of what’s being dealt with by another
human being, to scale.

I keep thinking of the blind man cured by Jesus.
The people around Him asked Him: who sinned?
He or his parents? Jesus said: “Neither.”
Substitue “depression” for “blind” and you’ve got
the picture.

To me, one of the exits from severe depression is
to develop pity for oneself…to have pity on a self
in the depths of depression, and to ask of that
self only what is possible at a given moment,
given the illness.

Best wishes,
reen12
 
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seeker63:
I have suffered from serious depression for over 20 years and only started taking meds for it last fall. Unfortunately, the drugs have only worked so-so. I’ve not had permanent work (or insurance) since getting laid off three years ago, and my continued lack of success in finding work has only made me feel more worthless.

My relationships with friends and family have deteriorated because no one wants to be around someone as unpleasant as me. And I keep developing more and more medical conditions, which in turn require more meds, which have only made me more erratic and “crazy.” Many of these conditions my doctor says are due to anxiety, but anxiety-producing events just keep happening to me, including a major apartment fire this spring, followed by two months of apartment hunting and a big move, quarrels with my mother (who unfortunately has had to support me while I’ve been hunting), etc., etc.

Now everyone tells me to get on welfare or take a job sacking groceries or flipping burgers, despite the fact that would depress me even worse and make me feel even more worthless.

I am pretty much without hope. I don’t see anything good ahead. I feel all of my life up to this point (I’m 40) has been wasted, and that I’m way behind and not at the point career-wise that I should be for a man of my age and education. I’ve accomplished nothing that means anything to me.

That said, I should add I intellectually have hope that God will deliver me, but this nightmare has gone on for so long I’m full of despair. My religious faith has, over the years, been the only thing that’s kept me from doing anything more than musing morbidly over suicide. I’ve never actually attempted it or come even close.

And yes, I have been praying to St.Jude, St. Joseph, the Virgin Mary, and others.

The only peace and calmness I seem to experience is when I’m alseep or in Church or at prayer or when I’m engaged in religious pursuits. I just started RCIA, which I’m very thrilled about. I’d been studying the Bible and doing devotions for years and years, but only in the last few months did I start going back to Church and start taking my religious life a lot more seriously.

Interestingly, after that fire, I was in such a state of shock for over a month I couldn’t really concentrate on any reading material, except, oddly enough, for religious matter.

For years I’d been in the habit of sleeping late on Sundays. But one Sunday, after the fire, after the apartment hunting, after the big move–after all that had been taken careof, I woke up early and decided I needed to go to Mass. I’d wanted to go to a particular Church for many months, but had just never gotten around to it.

There is some concern I may be overmedicated, and I’m thinking about going to another doctor. The depression meds have helped somewhat, but not nearly enough. Last night a friend started nagging me in a restaurant, telling me to either get on wlefare, start flipping burgers, or stop complaining. I got so angry I stomped out of the restaurant and walked the two miles home.

I’m praying for an 11th hour deliverance. I’ve been thinking about the principle of “Mary hath chosen the better part,” that if maybe I concentrate on my religious life, my career and health might fall into place.

So, yeah, I’d say depression is an affliction. Big time.
Wow, seeker63, your post sounded almost like I had written it myself! I don’t know about you, but it helps me to know that there are others going through the same thing. I have job problems myself, but the biggest issue in my life is that, after asking/begging my wife for the last 20 years to spend a few minutes a day with me, and asking her and my kids to play board games, and them saying they had other things they needed to do, along comes my daughter’s new boyfriend and they (my wife and daughter) magically find not only HOURS every day (as opposed to the few minutes I was asking for), but they’re also laughing and having a great time playing board games!!! Talk about feeling unwanted!!!

I’m wondering if these events are Jesus taking me down to nothing so I’ll reach out to Him. My wife meant the world to me, and I told her many times that if Heaven is like it feels when I’m with her, I’ll be perfectly happy. Unfortunately that’s not the case with her – it’s a one-way street. Maybe He took her away from me (figuratively/emotionally) so I would have nothing but Him.

However, I, like you, have prayed a lot, and it still seems hopeless. Pray for me, and I’ll pray for you.
 
loyola rambler:
In reading through Vatican documents on the topic, it’s very apparent that the Church sees clinical depression as far different than the theological “despair”.

First off, the Catechism shows that despair is not a mental illness, but rather a conscious decision to cease hope of salvation:

2091 The first commandment is also concerned with sins against hope, namely, despair and presumption:

By despair, man ceases to hope for his personal salvation from God, for help in attaining it or for the forgiveness of his sins. Despair is contrary to God’s goodness, to his justice - for the Lord is faithful to his promises - and to his mercy.

Though I’m sure some may claim that a depressed person may find him/herself in this situation, the reality is that a very small percentage of those suffering clinical depression are actually rejecting the hope for salvation. Instead, they’re hoping for help and are trying to balance issues that weigh heavily on themselves or aren’t even equating their personal struggles on earth with the their salvation.
Thanks for clearing this up just in case someone does not understand what clinical or situational depression is. DEPRESSION IS AN ILLNESS! To say that an illness is a sin is barbaric. I have had clinical depression to varying degress since I was 16. Sometimes, when not under stress, I do not need medication. Sometimes, I do. During the really bad times (many years ago) when I was tempted to end my own life, my belief in Jesus was the only thing that I clung to. There is no doubt in my mind that He saved me and comforted me and He expects me to take care of my medical condition by going to the appropriate doctor, taking the appropriate medication, and going to my support group. Of course, living a Christian life and practicing what my religion teaches me is of upmost importance too. Thankfully, through perserverence and not giving up–a direct result of my belief in the Almighty–I have raised two wonderful boys who are now adults, gone back to school in my 50’s and now have a rewarding job that requires my master’s degree. Something I could only dream about when I was young. Thank goodness I didn’t listen when some ignorant person preached that all I needed was God. When I read the poem “Footsteps” I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that God carried me across these bad times and gave the will and hope to seek help.

Anyone who is suffering from depression needs our prayers and understanding–not our condemnation.
 
I did not answer the poll question because I felt that none of them actually accurately described depression 🙂 .

One thing that must be said is that depression is not a sin - it is a cross to bear and for some a very heavy cross.

I know that when I am in the deepest part of depression I am at my closest to God (I have severe PMS complicated by apparent food sensitivities). In these times I know that it is only He who can fully understand me and it is His unconditional love that got me through some of it. I also have to say that it is with God’s help that I sought out medical help from a Gyn. My Gyn did everything medically possible to get me over it and some of the meds worked for but the side effects (like any time I sat down I would just fall asleep!) were not worth the meds. It was in trying to lose the weight that was gained in trying to medicinally reduce the depression that I hit upon the food sensitivities (and this was also with the help of my gyn. who suggested a low carb diet).

To all who say that depression is the sin of despair, they can certainly have that opinion and then when they are in deep depression and know that it is only through the Grace of God that things have to get better then they will see that depression and despair are separate 😛

Brenda V.
 
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third_servant:
depression is a punishment from God.
I have a difficult time with calling an illness a punishment from God. Would you tell a person diagnosed with cancer that they are being punished by God? It reminds me so much of what many fundamentalist Protestants tell their flock that if they become ill it is their fault, and if they are not healed it is because they either have hidden sin or not enough faith. As a medical professional, I have difficulty with blaming the sufferer.
 
Dear deaconswife,

Thank you for your compassionate observations.
*

In saying what you did, you remind me of
Simon of Cyrene, *helping *Jesus to carry the
cross.

God bless you,
Maureen [reen12]*
 
Depression is no more a sin than being gay. It is what you do about it that can be. If you try to escape your depression with immoral activities that is where the sin lies, in the response to the situation…not in the situation itself.
 
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