Is Europe Dying? Is the Pope too late?

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To put the matter directly: Europe, and especially western Europe, is in the midst of a crisis of civilizational morale. The most dramatic manifestation of that crisis is not to be found in Europe’s fondness for governmental bureaucracy or its devotion to fiscally shaky health care schemes and pension plans, in Europe’s lagging economic productivity or in the appeasement mentality that some European leaders display toward Islamist terrorism. No, the most dramatic manifestation of Europe’s crisis of civilizational morale is the brute fact that Europe is depopulating itself.

unc.edu/depts/diplomat/item/2005/0406/weig/weigel_europe.html

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Much of Europe is in bad shape. The western world in general is contracepting and aborting itself into oblivion and caving in to the homosexual agenda. Contraception, abortion and homosexuality aren’t conducive to reproduction, so yes the west is in trouble.
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GregoryPalamas:
To put the matter directly: Europe, and especially western Europe, is in the midst of a crisis of civilizational morale. The most dramatic manifestation of that crisis is not to be found in Europe’s fondness for governmental bureaucracy or its devotion to fiscally shaky health care schemes and pension plans, in Europe’s lagging economic productivity or in the appeasement mentality that some European leaders display toward Islamist terrorism. No, the most dramatic manifestation of Europe’s crisis of civilizational morale is the brute fact that Europe is depopulating itself.

unc.edu/depts/diplomat/item/2005/0406/weig/weigel_europe.html

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hmm… humanism, the worshiop of man as God… gee, where have we heard this before???
 
The guy is panicking about Islam taking over Europe, with very little reason. Also, he tells America to care about what is going on, but doesn’t offer a single idea what to do about it. You folks can’t force us to have more children 🙂

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MikeWM:
The guy is panicking about Islam taking over Europe, with very little reason. Also, he tells America to care about what is going on, but doesn’t offer a single idea what to do about it. You folks can’t force us to have more children 🙂

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Hmmmm…I’ve often wondered if many in Europe are to be compared with the Masochist saying to the Islamic Sadist “have your way with us so we can both enjoy life”. The old school boy saying “spank me again.” It’s not my cup of tea.

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MikeWM:
The guy is panicking about Islam taking over Europe, with very little reason. Also, he tells America to care about what is going on, but doesn’t offer a single idea what to do about it. You folks can’t force us to have more children 🙂

Mike
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Is it the Netherlands or Denmark who is cracking down on immigration, specifically of Muslims? Dutch politicians and movie producers are getting assinated by Muslims. And Madrid and London were attacked by…guess who…
 
Guess which Religion’s members are having bigger families in Europe? Overall, it’s not the Catholics or other Christian denominations.
 
Eileen T:
Guess which Religion’s members are having bigger families in Europe? Overall, it’s not the Catholics or other Christian denominations.
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CatQuilt:
Is it the Netherlands or Denmark who is cracking down on immigration, specifically of Muslims? Dutch politicians and movie producers are getting assinated by Muslims. And Madrid and London were attacked by…guess who…
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Also, you might want search news.google.com or news.yahoo.com with the 2 keywords honor killing and see what you find…
 
Read The Cube and the cathedral by George Weigel for a detailed discussion of this problem.
 
Europe was occupied by the American military and their Soviet chums from WW2 - and is occupied still … with according government censorship and cultural circumcision.

The imposed governments began importing muslims wholesale almost from the end of the war, with the invasion really getting going as the Church was coming to an accommodation with her new (ahem) situation around V2. This cultural invasion and devastation proceeded with hardly a peep of protest from the once mighty Church.

Go figure! Europe isn’t committing suicide…it’s being killed.

Not that I expect comfortable American NuCafflix to comprehend or care.
 
Oh my goodness, things always look so different from far far away. Instead of pounding on Islam, we should all think of the one and only principle we’re supposed to live by :" Love thy neighbor ". I’M in Germany right now, the heart of secularism, as some would say. Believe it or not, the Christian thought as a whole is still alive. Faint, subtle, but it’s there, and those who are practicing it are doing a mighty fine job. We have a very lively parish here, ecumenically oriented ( that’s all debateable, I must say, not too fond of it, it mixes Lutheran and Catholic too much ), and yes, they have single parent groups etc. These things exist, homosexuals exist. I don’t think we can all go around condemning everybody. That’s NOT our place to do. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think homosexuality is right or the practice of it, but instead of denying homosexual Catholics their rights, we should maybe look into alternatives such as support groups where abstinence can be promoted. Just an idea, I don’t know. Call me liberal, but I can’t imagine Our Savior condemning certain groups as we dare do. I know I know, it’s against Church policies, and I’m behind it, but why not try and help people instead of isolating them?
As for the Muslim population, yes, they do have a stronger motivation somewhere to have more children. Why, who knows? I deal with Muslims every day, I believe it must be a test from above to see how I can be a good Christian amidst the huge population of Muslims around me. I will treat them with respect, so far that’s what I’ve gotten back. But anyway, this is another object. Really guys, Europe as a whole isn’t that bad off. Please don’t stereotype us all. We’re all brothers and sisters in Christ, pray for us all,
Peace to all of you
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GregoryPalamas:
To put the matter directly: Europe, and especially western Europe, is in the midst of a crisis of civilizational morale. The most dramatic manifestation of that crisis is not to be found in Europe’s fondness for governmental bureaucracy or its devotion to fiscally shaky health care schemes and pension plans, in Europe’s lagging economic productivity or in the appeasement mentality that some European leaders display toward Islamist terrorism. No, the most dramatic manifestation of Europe’s crisis of civilizational morale is the brute fact that Europe is depopulating itself.

unc.edu/depts/diplomat/item/2005/0406/weig/weigel_europe.html

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