Is Famine Possible in the United States?

[white_sheep]

Is lukewarm Catholicism possible in the United States? Every parish has a patch of dirt that can be cultivated. Get to it. Let’s each ask our pastor if we can plant a pair of fruit trees and, with God’s love driving this and other efforts, famine in America will be impossible, by God. It is the passivity of the American Catholic that is the problem. Let’s “pray and work.”

Lord, deliver us from passivity and lead us to active Catholic loving and living that brings miracles of achievements, all for Your honor and glory. Thanks. AMEN

How about if we don’t plant fruit trees in the parish yard? I’d rather it be a yard, and it wouldn’t help anybody anyway. If you want to plant stuff in your yard, fine, if you want to help feed poor people, plant stuff in their yard, or better yet, tell them to do it. If we just have to have more stuff planted, have the parishioners plant stuff in their yards. They have far more land available in their backyards than parishes do, and this way no one has to fight over who is going to take care of all that stuff.

 

[ACCT]

Absolutely.

More and more people are living in cities, in appartment buildings, in tiny little suburban houses. How much do you guys import? How much do you guys have in farm lands locally? How many individuals living in cities could grow vegetables if their life depended on it?

All it would take would be a huge crash on the market or a wall, or for the govt. to collaspe. Importation of food collaspes, petrol becomes scarce so even transport nationally becomes difficult. Food would become expensive.

If there was a massive environmental disaster or a small scale nuclear war you’d really be in the pig muck.

Now, while everyone won’ t stave, there be little towns and rural centres that do quite well, but if you hae millions of people in cities with very little access to food, that’s where you will find your higher number of deaths, but their movement out of the cities in search of food would put more pressure on the rural centres.

While currently I think its not likely to happen any time soon, as for famine to happen there’d have to be a series of events that cause a lot of problems, I do think its possible. I think all those in the West need to stop being too comfortable, there’s a real “the United States will be there forever”. Govts and societies come and go, and there’s always something to step up into the void to replace the former… its that period between that’s the issue. That’s where you’ll get your famine.

 

[edwest2]

Absolutely.

More and more people are living in cities, in appartment buildings, in tiny little suburban houses. How much do you guys import? How much do you guys have in farm lands locally? How many individuals living in cities could grow vegetables if their life depended on it?

All it would take would be a huge crash on the market or a wall, or for the govt. to collaspe. Importation of food collaspes, petrol becomes scarce so even transport nationally becomes difficult. Food would become expensive.

If there was a massive environmental disaster or a small scale nuclear war you’d really be in the pig muck.

Now, while everyone won’ t stave, there be little towns and rural centres that do quite well, but if you hae millions of people in cities with very little access to food, that’s where you will find your higher number of deaths, but their movement out of the cities in search of food would put more pressure on the rural centres.

While currently I think its not likely to happen any time soon, as for famine to happen there’d have to be a series of events that cause a lot of problems, I do think its possible. I think all those in the West need to stop being too comfortable, there’s a real “the United States will be there forever”. Govts and societies come and go, and there’s always something to step up into the void to replace the former… its that period between that’s the issue. That’s where you’ll get your famine.

It was predicted that more and more people in the United States would be living in cities a few years back but it didn’t happen. I live in Michigan and there is plenty of farmland. And the government, along with the Department of Agriculture, do nothing but look for problems or likely future problems, and work to avoid them.

This kind of provocative thinking is less meaningful today than when I was growing up in the late 1950s and early 1960s. ICBMs had just been deployed by the Russians and the United States. In 1962, my family watched as President John F. Kennedy told us nuclear missiles had been discovered in Cuba, just a few miles from Miami. He told the Russians that any use of nuclear weapons, including in the buffer zone between Eastern and Western Europe, would be regarded as an attack against the United States. The Russians withdrew their missiles and we had a great time living through the rest of the 1960s, even though we knew that massive destruction was 20 minutes away. We slept at night. We didn’t even lock our doors. OH, and just so I’m clear. NO, it was not perfect but it was a lot, and I do mean a lot, better than now.

I’ve seen the government publication from the early 1960s that told farmers how to return to production after a nuclear war. I’ve also seem the declassified, “Continuation of Government” documents that laid out what series of events would be set in motion after a major disaster. These date back to the 1960s and early 1970s.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, but if even a fraction of what is being published is true, this eternal vigilance has accelerated over the decades by orders of magnitude.

Famine is not an abstract idea. We know what famine is and why it happens from examples around the world. Predicting is part of what the CIA does as well. That’s why they publish a World Factbook:

cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xx.html

Peace,
Ed

 

[ACCT]

Your first priority should be to own some land so that you can grow some of your own food. The food on your plate today travels an average of 1,500 miles. When the trucks can no longer roll, etc. the cities will starve.

 

[edwest2]

Is this the wild conspiracy thread? To borrow a quote from a movie, with a slight change: “Mr. President, you’ll be saving the lives of millions of registered voters.”

Peace,
Ed

 

[ACCT]

Is this the wild conspiracy thread? To borrow a quote from a movie, with a slight change: “Mr. President, you’ll be saving the lives of millions of registered voters.”

Peace,
Ed

I think that God is moving us back to the soil and a very rural life.

Even the Catholic Church will not say that the alleged apparitions at Medjugore are “worthy of belief” until many years after the apparitions cease, and there are many documented miracles, etc. However,** I have seen the “miracle of the sun” with my own eyes, **and I have talked to skeptics like Dale Brown, former LSU basketball coach, who has told me of the miracles that he experienced.

Time is short. My guess is that we all will experience God in a profound way, perhaps as Paul did on his way to Damascus.

The chastisements will begin after the last visionary receives the 10th secret. Most of the visionaries have already received all 10 secrets. Only a couple of the visionaries have received 9 of the secrets.

 

[ACCT]

Famine represents one of the four horsemen. We will experience famine because we have turned our backs on God. We have legalized the sins of abortion, “gay marriage,” etc. If we do not listen to God, then we will have to feel. The 10 chastisements are on their way. Do not waste time.

 

[epan]

Is famine possible in the United States?

World food reserves are at a very low level compared to forty years ago (less than a month of supply). Additionally, the world came very close to running out of corn a few years ago!

The US feed supply (read government subsidized corn and soy) is sufficient to feed the entire world. But it is fed to cattle and pigs, and turned into sweeteners and so forth.

During the Irish potato blight, there was sufficient food to eat, but it was for export only. So it really didn’t matter if the local population went hungry or starved.

This is the world that we have created. Food for the wealthy. Starvation for the rest, even in the midst of plentiful food supplies.

This is a moral issue.