Is fantasizing about cutting a sin?

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So I’ve been dealing with cutting for about a year now and haven’t done it for almost 3 months. However I’ve been thinking of it obsessively and fantasizing about it since Sunday. I haven’t actually cut again but I can relive everything in the fantasies except the relief that I can get from it. I’m just wondering if it’s a sin and something that I should bring up in confession tomorrow.

Also, I already do have a therapist, psychiatrist and a wonderful priest that I’ve been working with. The priest is actually the one who has helped me the most with this issue.

I hope that I explained this decently. It’s hard to try to explain these thoughts and feelings.
 
Desires are not sinful in and of themselves.

If they are controlled, and not given in to, you are fine.
 
What Max said. Plus you seem to have good resources. Confide in them. Online you will get some downright horrible answers.
trust your physician and confessor. That’s the best way to go.
 
This is a fairly normal part of getting away from a self-destructive coping mechanism. (Yes, I have some personal experience in the area.) Your brain is still conditioned to think of that as a way of taking care of your problems, and it will still go back to that for a while.

It’s not a sin; it’s a normal part of recovery. It is however something good to share with your support team who can advise you on how to manage them.
 
I’m so deeply sorry for the pain you have experienced that has led you to turn to cutting in the past. If you’ve begun to really cover ground on healing the pain behind it, then what comes to mind is that your reliving these past actions might be your body trying to revert to cutting as a means to shield you from the pain involved in healing it. Either that or perhaps in some way your body thinks it fulfilled some sort of need you had not previously been able to meet in the past (ex. a loving father, etc. - I’m sorry if my examples are bad, I haven’t struggled with this, myself.).

@DarkLight kind of said what I am trying to say too 🙂
 
Thank you all for the kind words. This has been bugging me for a few days. It’s nice to know that I didn’t sin in this regard
 
One must distinguish between a desire and morose pleasure. A desire can either be efficacious or conditional. An efficacious desire is a real intention to do something (e.g. I’m going to cut myself tomorrow), a conditional desire is a wish to do something without a real intention to (e.g. I would cut myself if it wouldn’t make me look crazy). Both of these are sinful in the same way as the actual act, since they both constitute a choice to do evil (assuming that the condition in a conditional desire does not take away the malice of the act).

OTOH, morose pleasure exists when one thinks of a sin and takes pleasure in it. Morose pleasure in sin is sinful, but its gravity is taken only from the object and the circumstances which motivate the taking of pleasure in it, not from all of the circumstances as they exist in the concrete (e.g. one who takes pleasure in the thought of fornicating with a married woman, not because she is married but simply because she is a woman, does not commit a distinct sin from one who takes pleasure in the thought of simple fornication).

It should be noted that morose pleasure in sin is not equivalent to pleasure in the thought of sin. One can often derive intellectual pleasure from thinking about a sin simply because it is interesting, this is not a sin of morose pleasure unless one enjoys the sin itself. Though of course certain sins (mainly sexual) tend to be difficult to think about without moving the passions, and therefore should not be thought about without good reason.

So, it is sinful to fantasize about cutting yourself, though it may or may not be gravely sinful, since causing serious harm to yourself may not be precisely what motivates you. This is something you need to discuss with your confessor. Obviously, if these are simply intrusive thoughts that you do not voluntarily enjoy, then there is no sin.

Here is a reference, since others have posted incorrect information:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14004b.htm (see the section “Internal sins”)
 
Incidentally, that’s why I never liked all the push towards seeing self-harm as a grave sin. It’s not the kind of thing anyone turns to unless they’re desperate. It’s something people turn to when they can’t bear the pain they’re going through anymore, and other ways of managing it aren’t working. (I know when I dealt with it, I’d heard all the various ways I was supposed to deal with things instead - they just plain didn’t help when I tried them.) That’s not to say it’s a good option, just that it’s something that people turn to when they do not perceive any good options.

I would also say that, when I dealt with mental illness, trying to figure out what was voluntary and involuntary was a nightmare. So for example, a common experience might be “I don’t particularly want to be thinking about this, but at the same time it’s kind of comforting, and I’m too emotionally drained to put any serious effort into fighting it.”
 
Yeah, I think I’ll have to mention it in confession as it sounds from what Akansan describes it was sinful. I had only felt myself slipping into depression for like 2 days and then thought of it. After those feelings left I kept having the thoughts/fantasies. I wanted to do it, but the only thing that prevented me from following through was what my priest told me during my last confession.
 
If they just come to you without consent it’s just a desire, not a sin, if you consent to them, it is sinful, varying degrees, talk to your priest

I understand those issues can be very heavy and difficult, my prayers will be with you, pray much, and i’m glad you have help from the therapist, the psychiatrist and a priest

Finally, if it helps, when tempted, remember this quote by Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI where he reminds of that each one of us comes from a thought of God, each one of us.

God wants us to exist and to be well and happy, He created us for happiness, beatitude, He created us out of Love, so when you find yourself in trouble or suffering, talk to God, He really wants to hear you
 
I wouldn’t concern yourself overmuch with it. What you’re describing sounds like a temptation. It’s a way to cope, you used it to feel better. You started feeling bad and then you wanted something that makes you feel better, and you can’t stop thinking about it. That’s pretty much normal human.

Honestly though, it won’t hurt to mention it to the priest either way. He knows you and can tell you if it’s a sin or not. Listen to him and don’t worry too much about us internet strangers!
 
Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh -
Sorry to hear about your self mutilation problem -
Any " relief " you get - it turns into a dark addiction, given time.
12 weeks - and it’s still on your mind…
Sounds demonic. Not to scare you, but demons want our deaths.
Preferably slow and anguishing deaths.
Don’t disfigure yourself.
YOU - are made in God’s image.
And may I say, beautifully and wonderfully made ! ( Psalms )
 
I’m glad you already have the appropriate professionals on board.

What do you think is triggering this? Some new stress, or a bunch of stresses that have accumulated?

:pray:t2::pray:t2::pray:t2: for you
 
I have no idea what triggered it, I wish I did. The only thing that I can think of is that this all started this same month last year. Thank you for your prayers.
 
Praying for you as well. If it helps, I’ve been there and came out on the other side successfully. It can be done. It takes a lot of figuring out how to manage your life. It’s easier to fall back on what you’re used to.
 
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