Is frugality advice realistic?

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Fascinating thread… NB I never thought re water bills being an excuse to use disposable nappies… diapers to you. Always cloth for ecology… I live in rural Ireland am over 70 and have lived frugality decades, through choice and as was on disability and now a pension. I find these allowances more than enough but hate waste of any kind and have simple tastes. In decades past I had hens, a goat etc and grew all my food but age and different priorities now as I have family working overseas with abandoned babies and it has made me so very aware of how little it takes to help and how little I really need. So I stopped the bread baking which takes time and electricity which costs a lot here and either get day old from a nice baker or supermarket cheapest. Love the reduced food counters and eat simply. Any clothes I need and they are few now, from thrift shops… still grow some food and flowers from cheap seed. No hens etc now as am not able for that any more… use no cosmetics etc… happy with my choices… which is what matters… wash by hand except sheets and towels and never use a drier…
Owning one’s own hens is actually a fad right now in my neighborhood. My uncle has constructed a huge hen house with a chicken wire fenced in yard. The hutch is heated in the winter and they buy bags of chicken feed from the pet store. He claims they save a fortune on eggs. 🤷 They must eat eggs for every meal! A carton of eggs last me at least two or three weeks and I highly doubt they heat that hen hutch for less than the $2 it cost to buy eggs.
 
That reminds me - one thing I’ve noticed is that these sorts of frugality advice is aimed at homeowners. A class which is increasingly declining among the younger set of parents. You may not very well be able to have a garden if you don’t own your own home.
 
Owning one’s own hens is actually a fad right now in my neighborhood. My uncle has constructed a huge hen house with a chicken wire fenced in yard. The hutch is heated in the winter and they buy bags of chicken feed from the pet store. He claims they save a fortune on eggs. 🤷 They must eat eggs for every meal! A carton of eggs last me at least two or three weeks and I highly doubt they heat that hen hutch for less than the $2 it cost to buy eggs.
We just house sat for a family that has a hen house in their back garden.
Fresh eggs every day. Around 2-6.
Eggs are consumed ALOT by my family. My daughters will fix an egg sandwich fro a snack, and my hubs and I Iove a supper of scrambled eggs, potatoes O’brien, cheddar cheese, & salsa tucked in to soft corn taco shells.
A great not too hot summer supper. We eat a lot of eggs. Love quiches and frittatas as well. And if you back, you need eggs. Free range eggs are really expensive.
It’s a real treat to have a fresh egg, and btw, they last a long time so you can share with others. 🙂
 
Owning one’s own hens is actually a fad right now in my neighborhood. My uncle has constructed a huge hen house with a chicken wire fenced in yard. The hutch is heated in the winter and they buy bags of chicken feed from the pet store. He claims they save a fortune on eggs. 🤷 They must eat eggs for every meal! A carton of eggs last me at least two or three weeks and I highly doubt they heat that hen hutch for less than the $2 it cost to buy eggs.
Right. There’s no way my family spends more than $100 a year on eggs–and I’m kind of betting on $50.

Now, if your uncle and his family LOVE the eggs, that’s different.
 
FWIW, We did a unit with our LifeTeen group on water conservation. Turn out washing the car at home uses way more water than going to one of those drive through jobs. Home washing uses 40-140 gallons of water.

I have friends who join community groups on FB and find amazing furniture deals.
We own, so we pay our own water bill. When we wash, about two to three times between spring and end of fall, we use a gallon bucket with a tiny bit of cleaner for the interiors and another gallon bucket for exteriors. About three minutes rinse with the hose.

I think our worse conservation and financial offences are showers and teeth brushing along with laundry. We’ve put a time limit on showers, told the kids to turn the water back off when brushing, and instructed the kids to either wash a full load or find something else to wear. There has been some improvements, but it’s a work in progress.
We save even more water by parking outside during rainstorms. (Disclaimer: Doesn’t work as well in hail.)
And that’s why we only wash a few times a year at most! 🙂
As long as he’s not a big sports guy, you’ll do fine.

If you like Brit stuff, you can get that from Acorn for $5 a month.
He’s not a sports guy, so that’s good. And we do like Brit stuff, so we’ll have to check check out Acorn. Never heard of it before, thanks!

We go through about 2~3 dozen eggs a week if we aren’t baking. Eggs run $2.89 a dozen for the large size cheapest brand. I’ve thought of chickens, but city code is ridiculous.

I did meet some folks through a dog forum who hunt boar with their dogs. They get to keep the meat and they get a state paid bounty on the boar kill. Awesome if you’re a hunter with a couple good dogs.

I know a few others from the same forum who get together and buy a cow at auction every year. They go halfsies on the cow and processing. They say it’s about $300 each person and they end up with a deep freeze full of meat. For them it’s cheaper than supermarket prices and they know what the cow has been fed.
 
MJJean;13135633 said:
That’s fabulous!

Vaguely related: my husband is a hobbyist, and he occasionally enters his projects on Instructables. We’ve won a number of items, including a razzle dazzle color printer/fax/copier thingy that we use a lot.

I know a few others from the same forum who get together and buy a cow at auction every year. They go halfsies on the cow and processing. They say it’s about $300 each person and they end up with a deep freeze full of meat. For them it’s cheaper than supermarket prices and they know what the cow has been fed.

I believe the term is “cow pooling.”
 
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That reminds me - one thing I’ve noticed is that these sorts of frugality advice is aimed at homeowners. A class which is increasingly declining among the younger set of parents. You may not very well be able to have a garden if you don’t own your own home.
It is dependent on which way your windows face, but quite a lot can be grown in even very small pots. Even though we have a yard, I still prefer to grow herbs inside (which are a big money savings vs. paying for them at the store).

If you have access to any outdoor space at all, I’ve known people who use small porches or balconies to grow tomatoes, peppers, lettuce, squash…probably other stuff, too, but those tend to be friendly for the novice gardener (and save money vs. spending at the store - some produce simply tastes a lot better homegrown, but it’s not less expensive and may in fact be more expensive to produce yourself.)

We’ve determined that chickens would not be a good investment for us as far as money, though it could be fun. 😉 Actually, it seems that if you can butcher them yourself or know someone who could do it well and cheaply, rabbits are the meat to raise yourself. I recall reading that just three could generate more meat than a whole steer over the course of a year. :eek:

We are buying a quarter steer this year for the first time. Most of the farms around here that offer that option cost a lot of money (because it’s all grass-fed, organic, etc. etc.) but we found one that was comparable to what I already pay just for ground beef on sale at the store (taking into account that hanging weight is more than what you get in cuts after butchering), but now we can get a heck of a lot more variety. DH is thrilled that we will get to have steak every once in a while.
 
That reminds me - one thing I’ve noticed is that these sorts of frugality advice is aimed at homeowners. A class which is increasingly declining among the younger set of parents. You may not very well be able to have a garden if you don’t own your own home.
I may have mentioned this before on a thread you were on, but every so often I go on a sprout spree. I have a set up with a special plastic sprouting cup (it drains better than keeping it just in a plain glass jar, but probably isn’t strictly necessary) and every so often I buy a bag of sprouting seeds. A small quantity of seeds plus water produces an amazing quantity of sprouts. And this can be done in a very small space on a kitchen counter. The seeds can be mail ordered (including in huge quantities), but there are probably less expensive sources.

Two notes:
  1. There are lots of different sprout varieties, but I have to confess that the traditional alfalfa is actually the most tolerable for eating in large quantities. Only buy the other stuff if you have money to burn.
  2. Every so often, there’s some huge scandal over E coli food poisoning in commercial sprouts. So, I have to mention that it’s not 100% safe to be eating stuff that’s been soaking in warm water for several days on your kitchen counter. I’ve never gotten sick, though, and I’ve been doing it off and on for years.
foodsafety.gov/keep/types/fruits/sprouts.html
 
Right. There’s no way my family spends more than $100 a year on eggs–and I’m kind of betting on $50.

Now, if your uncle and his family LOVE the eggs, that’s different.
My aunt and uncle live alone. They’re empty nesters. They aren’t allowed to sell the eggs, so they do give a lot away, and they like their chickens and think they are fun. However, they are definitely NOT saving money by having them. I think the rule in most townships is six laying hens, no roosters. Even if every single hen laid an egg every day, that’s three and a half dozen eggs a week, max. Not really enough to turn a profit, and in my county, you aren’t allowed to sell them without a license anyway.
 
Oh, the uncomfortable conversations with little kids! There are so many bunnies in board books!

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I already know they would flourish living in our yard. We have bunnies constantly.

Oddly enough, my oldest is not in the least perturbed by the fact that meat comes from animals, even specific animals. I thought it might alarm him. We’ve always been really upfront about it since we have relatives who raise animals for meat.

(Sometimes I wonder if sign language has something to do with this too - we did a lot of ASL with him, and in ASL there is no euphemistic language with meat - you just identify it as the animal it comes from.)
 
I may have mentioned this before on a thread you were on, but every so often I go on a sprout spree. I have a set up with a special plastic sprouting cup (it drains better than keeping it just in a plain glass jar, but probably isn’t strictly necessary) and every so often I buy a bag of sprouting seeds. A small quantity of seeds plus water produces an amazing quantity of sprouts. And this can be done in a very small space on a kitchen counter. The seeds can be mail ordered (including in huge quantities), but there are probably less expensive sources.

Two notes:
  1. There are lots of different sprout varieties, but I have to confess that the traditional alfalfa is actually the most tolerable for eating in large quantities. Only buy the other stuff if you have money to burn.
  2. Every so often, there’s some huge scandal over E coli food poisoning in commercial sprouts. So, I have to mention that it’s not 100% safe to be eating stuff that’s been soaking in warm water for several days on your kitchen counter. I’ve never gotten sick, though, and I’ve been doing it off and on for years.
foodsafety.gov/keep/types/fruits/sprouts.html
Yeah, if I didn’t have a cat I might figure out how to grow a bit more stuff. As it is I’m sure I’d just come home to whatever I tried shoved onto the floor.
 
My aunt and uncle live alone. They’re empty nesters. They aren’t allowed to sell the eggs, so they do give a lot away, and they like their chickens and think they are fun. However, they are definitely NOT saving money by having them. I think the rule in most townships is six laying hens, no roosters. Even if every single hen laid an egg every day, that’s three and a half dozen eggs a week, max. Not really enough to turn a profit, and in my county, you aren’t allowed to sell them without a license anyway.
They are periods when hens do not lay at all folks.
And some lay a bunch, but never all at the same time.
there’s no way you get 3.5 dozen eggs per week from as few as 8 chickens.
Some weeks my friend gets a dozen…reasonable for a family of 5.
When it kicks in, she has some to sell to her co-workers. 4 for 50 cents and the $$$ goes to the children for their hobbies.
 
Yeah, if I didn’t have a cat I might figure out how to grow a bit more stuff. As it is I’m sure I’d just come home to whatever I tried shoved onto the floor.
Yeah. You totally would. So many different possibilities, actually!
 
Yeah. You totally would. So many different possibilities, actually!
Pets do not always mix with frugality, especially when you don’t have a setup to exclude them from certain areas. Not that I’d consider getting rid of my cat to save money unless it was a real emergency.
 
Pets do not always mix with frugality, especially when you don’t have a setup to exclude them from certain areas. Not that I’d consider getting rid of my cat to save money unless it was a real emergency.
Yeah. I expect kitty is very good for you.
 
On the thread topic - does anyone know of good frugal living resources that aren’t aimed at families/homeowners?
 
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