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Kronk
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I’ve heard about this a few times but never really looked at it properly. Is God omnipresent? If so how does it work? Especially with the eucharist?
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Fauken
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Must you be so flippant and inaccurate about such a sacred and wonderful gift from God?Especially with the eucharist? Holy spirit materialisibg out of God-particles?
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thistle
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Your profile says you are Catholic but your comment and laughing emoji are pretty disrespectful.Holy spirit materialisibg out of God-particles?
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AlbMagno
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Yes, as I understand is something like this. Someone who knows more about theology will probably answer it later.
No need to disrespect Jesus in sacramental form. Maybe you are new to the Church and you don’t know this kind of things…
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TK421
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God is spiritually present everywhere but Jesus is present in a special and physical way in the Eucharist. As human beings that are a composite of spirit and matter, physical contact carries an extra meaning to us, such as a hug between a friend or a kiss from a spouse or parent. That is why receiving Eucharist has sometimes been described by theologians and poets as a kiss from our Creator to his child.
God is also spiritually present in other human beings, i.e. when you feed the poor or visit the prisoner or instruct, you are doing it to Christ.
God is also spiritually present in other human beings, i.e. when you feed the poor or visit the prisoner or instruct, you are doing it to Christ.
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The same goes for God and the Eucharist.
The same goes for God and the Eucharist.
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DeniseNY
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If ever there was a post that earned a flagging, this is it.
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humbleseeker
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I don’t think the Op was being flippant. If you read through their posting history(less than a month), they use that emoji frequently. Also, they mention they are in preparations for baptism. Based on past post inquiries, I believe they are being sincere in seeking clarification on sacred mysteries like transubstantiation and the hypostatic union.
Questions I can't accept (hypostatic union and transubstantiation Liturgy and Sacraments
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Fauken
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And in the event they were, I put a post with a picture I think is relevant to the matter of Christ’s omnipresence and the Eucharist. I didn’t say that simply because of the emoji. I said that also because of their words.
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humbleseeker
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Yes, their word choice is poor but I think it comes from ignorance and was not meant to be flippant in an aggressive manner against the teachings of the Church. The Op mentions that, “I come from a cult-like religion, lots of idolatry, false deities, pretty awful stuff.” But I’ll let the moderators sort it out since the Op has been flagged. I hope they get the answers they are looking for. I think your post with the picture is a good start. I’ll stop poking the bear now
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Kronk
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Yeah sorry I didnt see how that might be a bit disrespectful, edited now 
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Kronk
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Wasnt really trying to be, just having a bit of a not-so-serious poke
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De_Maria
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Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; …
Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
I don’t think any mortal man can explain the hows of the mysteries of God. All we do is believe in the operation of God.
Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
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God is omnipresent, but not like a substance stretched across all space (which if you read St. Augustine of Hippo’s “Confessions,” was how Augustine misconceives of God in his early years and was something he struggled with until he learned Catholics reach otherwise). He is omnipresent as a cause is present to its effect, and God is the cause of all things other than himself.
The presence in the Eucharist is different, as Jesus has a physical body through his human nature, and Jesus (including his body) is made present to us in the Eucharist. So Jesus, who is God, is made bodily present to us under the appearance of bread and wine. Your question is like asking how Jesus as God being bodily present in a room is different than God’s omnipresence.
The presence in the Eucharist is different, as Jesus has a physical body through his human nature, and Jesus (including his body) is made present to us in the Eucharist. So Jesus, who is God, is made bodily present to us under the appearance of bread and wine. Your question is like asking how Jesus as God being bodily present in a room is different than God’s omnipresence.
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But that implies God is MORE present in some locations and LESS present in others. Which implies he is not always present. Are you sure you want to make that claim?
For example, if he is “less” present in one location (say, my house) but more present at another (say, a church) then 'how much" more? Twice as much? Ten times as much? What is the ‘unit’ of God presence? What is the minimum, since He is present everywhere, just more than at other places?
Or are you saying prayers work best in a Church?
Be careful with that one too.
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De_Maria
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You’re looking at it from a material point of view. Scripture says:Fauken:
But that implies God is MORE present in some locations and LESS present in others. Which implies he is not always present.
1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
He will not be more present then than now. He is the same. But our condition is different then and now. Thus, we will be capable of seeing Him clearly then, but not now.
He is not making that claim. You are interpreting what he said in a manner that is not logical.
Even that doesn’t follow. Even if we agree in your premise that God is more present in one location than another. Presence does not imply lack of presence.
The Catholic Church is a sacramental, through which God wills to offer greater graces. It is all in Scripture. But let’s show you a more extreme example. God wills to His grace to flow through sanctified handkerchiefs.
Acts 19:12 So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
No need. God is the ruler of all that exists and is transcendant in all ways. There is no impediment for Him to be anywhere in any manner He wants to be.
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Kronk
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Could you explain a bit more, on the “cause is present to its effects” bit? Your answers have been quite extensively helpful 
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LateCatholic
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None of your response addresses the challenge.
The original poster asked why one needs to go to Church if “God is everywhere”.
That is a very good question, one that, I - a 50 yr old Catholic - have never gotten a good answer for.
The answer was "God is like water. It’s always in the atmosphere, but you can only drink from a fountain.
In my opinion, this is a terrible answer. It means God is MORE present in some places than others. Or his presence in one location is DIFFERENT than his presence in another.
That means God’s presence is MEASURABLE. You have said nothing to refute this.
Your quote from scripture implies that God is everywhere and always, and unchanged. But that refutes the original poster’s answer, not mine. You are in essence justifying my point.
What I am trying to say is that IF God is everywhere, you don’t need to go to Church to pray.
The original poster asked why one needs to go to Church if “God is everywhere”.
That is a very good question, one that, I - a 50 yr old Catholic - have never gotten a good answer for.
The answer was "God is like water. It’s always in the atmosphere, but you can only drink from a fountain.
In my opinion, this is a terrible answer. It means God is MORE present in some places than others. Or his presence in one location is DIFFERENT than his presence in another.
That means God’s presence is MEASURABLE. You have said nothing to refute this.
Your quote from scripture implies that God is everywhere and always, and unchanged. But that refutes the original poster’s answer, not mine. You are in essence justifying my point.
What I am trying to say is that IF God is everywhere, you don’t need to go to Church to pray.
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Wesrock
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We are called to communal worship in the liturgy, and so a common place to gather is appropriate, and if we have a common place to gather specifically for celebrating the liturgy, we can express our love and reverence for that purpose by elevating the space of worship. Churches are set aside for the explicit purpose of worship, which allows us to really focus on that purpose.
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LateCatholic
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This is a fine answer. But in essence, and I agree with you - the purpose of attending Church is COMMUNAL, not THEOLOGICAL. For this reason, I see no problem with Catholics not attending Church. It is not necessary. I know why position is not condoned - but if there is no theological reason to attend Church, and I don’t think it helps me, I won’t. Now, I do often bring my children. And I do attend for certain services.
But, at my current age (and it probably will change), I don;t see any benefit. In fact, I often get more frustrated when I attend.
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