Is God so small for having interest in socio political destiny of humanity?

[tonyrey]

You’re making a basic metaphysical misstep, confusing quantity with quality. Just because something is more numerous or larger doesn’t mean it is more valuable. Would you rather have all the sand in the Sahara Desert or a single priceless diamond? Just because the universe is big doesn’t mean some (comparatively) small part isn’t of the most value to God.

Irrefutable!

 

[tonyrey]

I am constantly amazed how often people want to blame God for things He is not responsible for and their effort to place Him in a Human Box. I guess they do that so they can look greater than God. They are not.

God is not small. Humans are.

Their views of God reflect their small-mindedness!

 

[tonyrey]

It’s “small” to think that the God of the universe cannot nor would not care about every aspect and every person of His creation. Especially given the fact that that God created the countless stars and galaxies and the entire universe for those persons to live and grow in and enjoy.

They would complain if the universe consisted only of this planet:

“Why couldn’t God create a bigger universe?”

Precisely what size would meet their requirements?

 

[tonyrey]

The OP implies that the socio-political destiny of humanity is virtually insignificant. If that is the case the OP is of negligible significance, i.e. worthless!

 

[meltzerboy]

How do you know that it remains “unloved”?

Perhaps to give the “priests” that he placed in charge of His creation the sense of their proper relation to Him?

I think rather that its quite arrogant to think that we know better than God and in that vein not accept and respect creation as He has made it.

We have no reason not to believe that humanity, and the earth we reside upon, is not the center of the universe. I don’t think that its humble at all to say to God, “we didn’t ask you to make us or to give us all these great things when you could’ve given them to someone or something else”. I think that’s rather arrogant, not to mention rude and ungrateful.

Who are we to say that we know so much more than God to suggest that He should’ve made creation other than what He did?

Judaism has a long tradition of people’s questioning and arguing with G-d: Abraham and Moses, to name but two. G-d has given us the power of reason and intelligence and I believe He expects us to use it.

 

[meltzerboy]

Physical attributes such as size, quantity and duration have nothing whatsoever to do with spiritual value, purpose or significance…

But would you agree that the reason and intelligence of humans have something to do with their spiritual value, purpose, and significance? I ask these questions in that vein.

 

[Amandil]

Judaism has a long tradition of people’s questioning and arguing with G-d: Abraham and Moses, to name but two. G-d has given us the power of reason and intelligence and I believe He expects us to use it.

I could be mistaken, but I don’t necessarily recall Abraham arguing with G-d.

Moses did, but not because of God so much as his anxiety about his own shortcomings.

Job tried arguing with G-d because he believed that he was innocent despite the accusations of his “friends”.

Yet G-d’s response to both Moses and Job was simple: G-d is a G-d who’s wisdom is infinitely superior to ours, and we will not understand all His ways.

Therefore recognizing the universe as it is and not why it is not otherwise is not blind fidesim but eminent reasonableness. Who are we, the players on the stage, to tell off the Author of the play?

 

[jimmy]

Why would the creator of the countless stars and galaxies make dogmas about abortion, homosexuals, masturbation. That kind of god is too small and very much human

Why is it small that there would be rules set by God for his creation? I don’t get how that is small? Would it be big of God to not care about what he creates? What should God care about instead of people and the way they live? Should he be fascinated by black holes and quasars?

It seems that agnostics want a god who is just like them. One who has yolo has his status update on facebook, and is up on all the current fads.

 

[jimmy]

But would you agree that the reason and intelligence of humans have something to do with their spiritual value, purpose, and significance? I ask these questions in that vein.

I would agree with that. A creation that has no reason and intelligence is utterly pointless as far as I can tell. It is human consciousness that gives the universe - or atleast this corner of the universe - value. It is possible that there are millions of other planets with intelligent life.

I think the problem of the OP is that it confuses size with value, but the reality is that the only thing that has any real value in the universe is life and it is humans that recognize that value. The only place we know of where there is life is here on earth. Should I be more concerned with a black hole in the middle of the galaxy than the lives of my family? Should I be more concerned with the number of exoplanets than I am with the way I live?

There are two questions that religion and spirituality deal with. The first is the question of my own existence, and the second is how should I live. Why should I care about what God thinks of some planet in the Andromeda galaxy? It is irrelevant to me. Religion is all about people and their relationship to God. It is possible that there are different forms of intelligent life on other planets, that have their own religions. Until we make contact with them though, they are irrelevant.

Maybe it is part of the problem of modern society. Everyone is concerned about everything that doesn’t concern them, and they are flippant about their own behavior. They project every detail of their lives onto the internet for people they have no relationship with to see. They have a thousand facebook friends, of whom they only talk to maybe ten.

 

[tonyrey]

But would you agree that the reason and intelligence of humans have something to do with their spiritual value, purpose, and significance? I ask these questions in that vein.

I don’t believe our spiritual value and significance depend on our power of reasoning and intelligence. Our vocation is obviously related to our intellectual ability but it is mainly determined by our talents and personality.