Is he still forgiven?

[JesusEstelle]

Do you think a persons sin is technically forgiven by God if the victim truly forgives him for his wrongdoings?..is he still.forgiven even if he never asks god for forgiveness just that the person forgives him?..for example…he commits murder but the victims fam forgives him
But he is an atheist dosent believe in god…so never asks for forgiveness? Make sense…something that just crossed my mind

 

[crumblymunky]

No. You have to forgive in order to be forgiven. So to be forgiven by God, according to the Catholic Church, you have to 1.) Forgive, to the best of your abilities, those who have offended you, and 2.) Be contrite regarding your sins and try to make amends for them, and 3.) Seek forgiveness from a priest.

If the victims family doesn’t want to forgive you, but you have asked for their forgiveness and are sorry about the sin, and you likewise have attempted to forgive any wrongdoings that have been done against you, then you can be forgiven.

So again, no. An atheist cannot be forgiven by God because he never asks God to forgive his sins.

 

[ready]

So again, no. An atheist cannot be forgiven by God because he never asks God to forgive his sins.

True.

 

[IrishAm]

So again, no. An atheist cannot be forgiven by God because he never asks God to forgive his sins.

Well . . . we can’t actually know that because we do not know the depth of God’s mercy in any particular situation.

 

[ready]

Well . . . we can’t actually know that because we do not know the depth of God’s mercy in any particular situation.

We know that God forgives us our sins when we have perfect contrition or when we have only attrition within the Sacrament of Confession. What you say is not right, despite God being a merciful God. He is infinitely merciful and infinitely just – He rewards good and punishes evil, and we must repent of an evil we have done, if we wish to be forgiven by Him. We should not delude anyone into thinking that He forgives un-repented sins without any contrition or sorrow on a guilty person’s part. Yes, God is merciful, but we still need to ask His forgiveness after we have transgressed against Him, if we wish to be forgiven sin. We know this because the Church teaches that the ordinary way of having our sins forgiven is within the Sacrament of Confession and that the extraordinary way is by means of perfect contrition followed by the Sacrament of Confession ASAP. Many souls will be lost by their thinking that God is a merciful God who does not require contrition for transgressions. I am leaving this thread. God bless you.

 

[IrishAm]

We know that God forgives us our sins when we have perfect contrition or when we have only attrition within the Sacrament of Confession. What you say is not right, despite God being a merciful God. He is infinitely merciful and infinitely just – He rewards good and punishes evil, and we must repent of an evil we have done, if we wish to be forgiven by Him. We should not delude anyone into thinking that He forgives un-repented sins without any contrition or sorrow on a guilty person’s part. Yes, God is merciful, but we still need to ask His forgiveness after we have transgressed against Him, if we wish to be forgiven sin. We know this because the Church teaches that the ordinary way of having our sins forgiven is within the Sacrament of Confession and that the extraordinary way is by means of perfect contrition followed by the Sacrament of Confession ASAP. Many souls will be lost by their thinking that God is a merciful God who does not require contrition for transgressions. I am leaving this thread. God bless you.

I stand by the statement that we can’t actually know [that someone is not forgiven] because we do not know the depth of God’s mercy in any particular situation. If that leads others to presume upon his mercy, I regret it, for you are correct that “the ordinary way of having our sins forgiven is within the Sacrament of Confession and that the extraordinary way is by means of perfect contrition followed by the Sacrament of Confession ASAP.” I merely state that we do not and cannot know the full nature of God’s mercy in specific situations.