Is Hillsong a religion?

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Thats all im asking? what is this? ive seen some stuff on tv lately about them I find it a little bizarre, I guy in my work is in it and he has to hand over 30% of his wage to some guy with a massive house and a plane, It kind of reminds me of some sort of religious amway, I could be wrong though, anyone know much about this?
 
Thats all im asking? what is this? ive seen some stuff on tv lately about them I find it a little bizarre, I guy in my work is in it and he has to hand over 30% of his wage to some guy with a massive house and a plane, It kind of reminds me of some sort of religious amway, I could be wrong though, anyone know much about this?
  1. Hillsong is a megachurch of over 21,000 attendees headquartered in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
  2. It is a multi-site church. This means that besides its main campus, located in the Baulkham Hills area, there are many smaller campuses and locations around Australia. There are even locations in cities outside Australia, such as Hillsong London and Hillsong New York.
  3. It is a member church of the Assemblies of God, a Pentecostal denomination.
  4. What its mainly known for is producing some of the best contemporary worship music. Darlene Zschech, the writer of “Shout to the Lord,” was its worship pastor until a few years ago. Here is a youtube video of one of their more recent songs.
  5. Hillsong believes in tithing, which is giving 10% of your income to your local church. I’m not aware that they believe that a person HAS to give more than that. The general belief is that 10% is what you are required to give. Everything else is voluntarily given out of love to God and others:
We believe in the biblical principle of tithing. In Malachi 3:10 (NLT) the bible talks about bringing the first 10% (tithe) of your income into the storehouse (church). If you do, “I will open the windows of heaven for you. I will pour out a blessing so great you won’t have enough room to take it in!". hillsong.co.uk/giving/
 
Generally speaking we don’t refer to individual churches or communities within a larger movement (such as Protestant Christanity or the Assemblies of God denomination) as a religion in and of themselves. Being required to contribute 30% of one’s income to one’s place of worship would be considered excessive by most contemporary standards (actually “being required to contribute” would be considered inappropriate by a lot of people assuming there’s some kind of penalty or exclusion for not paying).
 
  1. Hillsong is a megachurch of over 21,000 attendees headquartered in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
  1. It is a multi-site church. This means that besides its main campus, located in the Baulkham Hills area, there are many smaller campuses and locations around Australia. There are even locations in cities outside Australia, such as Hillsong London and Hillsong New York.
 
Itwin…i am amazed at your repository of knowledge…hats of to you…:tiphat::tiphat:
Ahh :o. It’s really not that impressive. I’m about to start writing a master’s thesis on Pentecostalism, so I make it my business to know everything about the subject. It’s like my job. . . .

Also, I really like Hillsong Live and Hillsong United.
I thought they were a band who mainly composed worship songs…did not know this. 😉
Yeah, Hillsong Music is just their worship team! It is the largest single congregation in Australia.
 
Thats all im asking? what is this? ive seen some stuff on tv lately about them I find it a little bizarre, I guy in my work is in it and he has to hand over 30% of his wage to some guy with a massive house and a plane, It kind of reminds me of some sort of religious amway, I could be wrong though, anyone know much about this?
A number of people have accused Hillsong of “cult-like” behavior due to some of the pastor’s tactics.
 
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Itwin…i am amazed at your repository of knowledge…hats of to you…

Ahh . It’s really not that impressive. I’m about to start writing a master’s thesis on Pentecostalism, so I make it my business to know everything about the subject. It’s like my job. . . .

Also, I really like Hillsong Live and Hillsong United.

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I thought they were a band who mainly composed worship songs…did not know this.

Yeah, Hillsong Music is just their worship team! It is the largest single congregation in Australia.
Shout To The Lord may be what put them over the top worldwide. Unlike most TV ministires, even those with well known worship teams/leader singers, who’s serviices are edited down to the senior pastor’s message Hillsong TV always starts with a musical selection.

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Shout To The Lord may be what put them over the top worldwide. Unlike most TV ministires, even those with well known worship teams/leader singers, who’s serviices are edited down to the senior pastor’s message Hillsong TV always starts with a musical selection.
Brian Houston has never been my favorite preacher. The music has always been more compelling than Brian’s preaching IMHO.
 
It’s a religious business. They are also known to preach the so called Prosperity Gospel.
 
Hillsong Church is an Australian multi-site megachurch affiliated with AOG that started with a congregation of 45 meeting in a public school. After moving into a warehouse, they held services in the Hills Centre and were called Hills Christian Life Centre. This church achieved international recognition through its unprecedented success in music, which has gone gold and platinum with chart-toppers on mainstream Australian charts. The music was produced under the name Hillsong, which became a far more recognizable name than that of the church itself. So in 1999, Hillsong officially became the name of the church. There are a dozen Australian sites that rely on the main one for leadership, and there are Hillsong church plants in London (which became a planter in its own right in Surrey and Paris), Kiev (and Moscow via Kiev), South Africa, Stockholm, and probably a few more extensions that I don’t know about.

Beliefs are both Evangelical and Pentecostal. There is some prosperity gospel, but that has been toned down in response to criticism. Tongues and baptism of the Holy Spirit (along with basic Evangelical beliefs) are the main points of emphasis, along with the really good music. Small groups of 10-20 people are the main source of growth- spiritually and numerically.

There has been some documented criticism. Criticisms include authoritarian church governance, lack of financial accountability, resistance to free thought, strict fundamentalist teaching, and lack of compassion. These criticisms should be very familiar to Catholics, and what it obviously means is that this enormous church is very good and highly effective, while occasionally there are obstinate disobedient people who don’t know their place in the church so they complain loudly due to their own personal problems and then separate themselves from the church, to their own detriment.

I hope that will be seen as a completely appropriate response to criticism. Is it?

There was also a scandal related to sexual impropriety. I didn’t mention this, but Brian and Bobbie Houston founded the church together in 1983. At any rate, their father, Frank, confessed to the sexual abuse of a minor in 2000. This happened in New Zealand back in 1970. But it would be unfair to compare him to a Catholic priest- first, Frank had sons, and second, Brian in particular is responsible for Frank’s removal from leadership and for initiating a two-year investigation not to escape or mitigate criticism, but in order to really investigate the allegations before they were 100% confirmed. The investigation confirmed that the claims were true. Pastor Frank was banned from ever preaching in any affiliated church in Australia or New Zealand, and at the end of his life, his only companions were shame and dementia.

So basically, it was just like the Catholic scandals we know and love. Nothing else was remotely similar after the fact, but nobody wants to think about that. The main takeaway should really be that sexual abuse is not just a Catholic thing, it does in fact happen in non-Catholic settings. I did not know that. Really, I did not know, please tell me more about that, and let’s never talk about what constitutes a good and appropriate response to such a scandal beginning in the year 2000. No one wants to discuss this.
 
Sorry but ‘toning down’ prosperity ‘gospel’ because of criticism is not good enough. Prosperity Gospel is the devil’s anti-gospel and nothing less. No group which teaches it can be called Christian. Following Jesus has nothing to do with worldly success at all. Nothing.
 
Sorry but ‘toning down’ prosperity ‘gospel’ because of criticism is not good enough. Prosperity Gospel is the devil’s anti-gospel and nothing less. No group which teaches it can be called Christian. Following Jesus has nothing to do with worldly success at all. Nothing.
www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/07/02/1183351125260.html

Prosperity gospel is bad news. But progress is progress, and there is some of that good news. Hillsong is a large presence. It’s not going away. While far from perfect, it is good to take heart when you do see progress happen.

And Hillsong isn’t the only church that I look at that way.
 
Sorry but ‘toning down’ prosperity ‘gospel’ because of criticism is not good enough. Prosperity Gospel is the devil’s anti-gospel and nothing less. No group which teaches it can be called Christian. Following Jesus has nothing to do with worldly success at all. Nothing.
I find it odd you are criticizing Hillsong for its flaws and saying in no way can they be Christian when the Church of England has just as many flaws. Western Anglicans in general these days seem perfectly fine to accommodate themselves to heresy.
 
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