Is Homosexuality A Choice?

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I didn’t choose to be bisexual. If I could choose, I wouldn’t choose to be attracted sexually to women knowing the horror, revulsion and rejection I was going to get and did get from my family.
You may not have a choice regarding same sex attraction. However, by self-identifying as a “bisexual” you are in fact choosing that identity.

And if you follow through on your same sex attraction, that is a choice as well

As a married man, I make choices regarding my proclivities every day. Most people struggle with this to some degree. And with varying success.
 
This evidence brings up the environmental factors I mentioned before… That is what the SCIENTIFIC evidence shows.
Here is an informative video by Dr Nicolosi

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                                           Interviews & Testimonials
Dr. Nicolosi Interviews Men and Women Who Have Left Homosexuality
Testimonials
Videos
“Political Correctness Rules, Not Science,” Says American Psychological Association Past-President in Interview with Dr. Nicolosi

“Unbiased, Open Research [on Homosexuality] Was Never Done,” Says Former A.P.A. President in Interview

For more personal stories of men and women who have moved out of homosexuality, please go to the website www.narth.com and see the section “Interviews/Testimonies.”
 
You may not have a choice regarding same sex attraction. However, by self-identifying as a “bisexual” you are in fact choosing that identity.

And if you follow through on your same sex attraction, that is a choice as well

As a married man, I make choices regarding my proclivities every day. Most people struggle with this to some degree. And with varying success.
Should I not identify as a bisexual woman? Should I pretend I’m straight when I’m not exclusively straight? I follow through on my bisexuality because I’m bisexual. I enjoy sex with men and women. I don’t think God would make me bisexual then expect me to not fully enjoy sex.
 
Should I not identify as a bisexual woman? Should I pretend I’m straight when I’m not exclusively straight? I follow through on my bisexuality because I’m bisexual. I enjoy sex with men and women. I don’t think God would make me bisexual then expect me to not fully enjoy sex.
I will defend your right to identify yourself as bisexual - since it is the truth of your innate personhood, but you need to recognise that your actions are as a result of your choices on whether or not to act on your instincts. We are not mindless automatons. We do have free will.

A lot of people do, however, get this freedom-to-choose-how-to-behave mixed up with a false notion that a sexual instinct can be chosen. However it is caused, sexual desire is not an imperative force in us that makes it impossible to resist. It is not ‘autonomic’ like our heart beating or semi-autonomic like breathing (i.e can be temporarily over-ridden, but eventually autonomic impulses kick in). Unless we are suffering from some sort of neurological disease (like Tourettes) we have full control over our actions. Just because one finds oneself capable of doing a thing doesn’t make it right to do it.

You do, of course, have a choice in the matter. It should be perfectly possible to have a fulfilling life expressing yourself heterosexually and stay well within the bounds of what the Church teaches is appropriate sexual behaviour. You recognise that you wouldn’t have had to endure the problems if you’d just been ‘straight’ - but equally you don’t have to and you can still be happy. Certainly I don’t think you’d agree that to be happy you’d have to shack up with both a man AND a woman? One way or another you’re going to have to choose which side of the fence to land on…
 
I’m confused. Are you saying that I have no choice but to eat if I feel hungry?

Because not only is that idea silly, it often leads to ill health, eventually ill psychological health, and a cycle of self-destruction.

I’m attracted to every pretty girl with a nice figure that I see. I am also married and act appropriately despite my genetic disposition.

Hopefully, I misread your intention.
All I meant was that what was said was meaningless, all I said was “In other words what you just said is meaningless.”, no more, no less.

In most cases the attraction I’ve seen to the same sex is also linked strongly to the desire to be loved which is a fairly fundamental drive. A lack of love can do horrible things to a person such as leading to BPD, addiction/promiscuity, risky behavior, depression, suicide…
 
One way or another you’re going to have to choose which side of the fence to land on…
In my heart of hearts I think I’ll end up spending my life with a woman. I don’t want kids and the bottom line is I don’t trust men although I am attracted sexually to some. There’s no way I’m going to go through life never experiences the joys of sex. No way.
 
In my heart of hearts I think I’ll end up spending my life with a woman. I don’t want kids and the bottom line is I don’t trust men although I am attracted sexually to some. There’s no way I’m going to go through life never experiences the joys of sex. No way.
Sex in today’s world seems incredibly overhyped. To me being loved and spending your successes and failures seems more important.

I think you should read Melinda Selmys’s blog or you can send her a PM on the forum.
 
Sex in today’s world -]seems/-] **is ** incredibly overhyped. To me being loved and spending your successes and failures seems more important.
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People --of mixed and of same-sex relationships-- can have the highest forms of affection, respect, tenderness, elation, joy, pleasure, and mutual fulfilmment – without any physicality involved. Anyone who denies that has simply not experienced it yet.
 
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People --of mixed and of same-sex relationships-- can have the highest forms of affection, respect, tenderness, elation, joy, pleasure, and mutual fulfilmment – without any physicality involved. Anyone who denies that has simply not experienced it yet.
They can and they do but why would you want to deny a fulfilling sex life when you can have it. I have those relationships but I also have a great sex life. Nothing wrong with that.
 
They can and they do but why would you want to deny a fulfilling sex life when you can have it. I have those relationships but I also have a great sex life. Nothing wrong with that.
There is something wrong with it. It’s self serving and narcissistic.
 
They can and they do but why would you want to deny a fulfilling sex life when you can have it. I have those relationships but I also have a great sex life. Nothing wrong with that.
It’s wrong because within the same-sex, it is forbidden, and was forbidden by the moral code adhered to by Jesus, by the way. It violates the ordered relationships among human persons, respective to their integral place in the human family. It’s the reason I love my sister and my best friend terribly, and therefore do not engage in sexual activity with either of them. The sexual activity would not intensify my love for them or their love for me, and in fact it would reduce the quality of that love because the normal, natural, and protective barrier had been broken.
 
Should I not identify as a bisexual woman? Should I pretend I’m straight when I’m not exclusively straight? I follow through on my bisexuality because I’m bisexual. I enjoy sex with men and women. I don’t think God would make me bisexual then expect me to not fully enjoy sex.
Why are you sure God made you that way?
 
It’s wrong because within the same-sex, it is forbidden, and was forbidden by the moral code adhered to by Jesus, by the way.
So we’re told but I don’t know if that’s true or not.
It violates the ordered relationships among human persons, respective to their integral place in the human family.
Not to me it doesn’t. There’s nothing wrong with my relationships, doesn’t matter how many times it’s repeated that there is. Religious people have to tow the party line I understand that.
 
So we’re told but I don’t know if that’s true or not.

Not to me it doesn’t. There’s nothing wrong with my relationships, doesn’t matter how many times it’s repeated that there is. Religious people have to tow the party line I understand that.
There is something wrong with them - doesn’t matter how many times you repeat that there isn’t. And like it or not, you’re a Catholic. You can’t pick your parents, and you can’t undo your Baptism.
 
Well who else made me if it wasn’t God?
Our human makeup is a result of our parents and their parents, etc… We are also subject to the ravages of sin. We are also born with concupiscence.

If God created each and every human as you state - we would all be like Adam and Eve, pretty darn near perfect with preternatural gifts.
 
Heavy going innit? I don’t know what she was going on about.
Have you sent her a PM on the forum? I think she might be interested in talking with you, she can probably relate better than we can.
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People --of mixed and of same-sex relationships-- can have the highest forms of affection, respect, tenderness, elation, joy, pleasure, and mutual fulfilmment – without any physicality involved. Anyone who denies that has simply not experienced it yet.
Well, I haven’t engaged in sex (and I honestly have no intention of doing it) so I can’t experientially say it is overrated however I can say that it seems overrated as it is often placed as the be all and end all of life.
They can and they do but why would you want to deny a fulfilling sex life when you can have it. I have those relationships but I also have a great sex life. Nothing wrong with that.
lack of sex makes you focus on the relationship itself as the feel good hormones are no longer covering up all the cracks.
Well who else made me if it wasn’t God?
Natural biological processes ultimately involving a male progenitor and female progenitor
There is something wrong with it. It’s self serving and narcissistic.
There is something wrong with them - doesn’t matter how many times you repeat that there isn’t. And like it or not, you’re a Catholic. You can’t pick your parents, and you can’t undo your Baptism.
Could we please drop the pompousness?
 
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