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romano
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No. It’s a fad promoted by the media.
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Daisy_Duck
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It’s as much a mental health disorder as heterosexuality is.
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Other_Eric
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Hi guys!
I’ve often thought about what the origin of a homosexual orientation might be. A strictly biological root seemed to me to be rather juvenile. There are too many behavioral characteristics associated with homosexuality for it to be neatly explained away by a “gay gene.” I think perhaps there may be a biological component to it that predisposes a person to the orientation, as we see in alcoholism. Clearly, there is some kind of psychological process that has occurred or been disrupted to create a homosexual.
Now, to say that it is a choice at the expense of saying that it is a psychological anomaly strikes me as absurd as the “gay gene” hypothesis. It’s simply not a choice in the manner that people normally use the word. No one, when presented with a menu of sexual options including, let’s say; a man, a woman, a small fuzzy animal and a fire hydrant; views all of these options as equal and makes a random choice between them. Some are not only undesirable, they’re repulsive. It would be like making a decision one day to prefer okra to chocolate.
I’ve often thought about what the origin of a homosexual orientation might be. A strictly biological root seemed to me to be rather juvenile. There are too many behavioral characteristics associated with homosexuality for it to be neatly explained away by a “gay gene.” I think perhaps there may be a biological component to it that predisposes a person to the orientation, as we see in alcoholism. Clearly, there is some kind of psychological process that has occurred or been disrupted to create a homosexual.
Now, to say that it is a choice at the expense of saying that it is a psychological anomaly strikes me as absurd as the “gay gene” hypothesis. It’s simply not a choice in the manner that people normally use the word. No one, when presented with a menu of sexual options including, let’s say; a man, a woman, a small fuzzy animal and a fire hydrant; views all of these options as equal and makes a random choice between them. Some are not only undesirable, they’re repulsive. It would be like making a decision one day to prefer okra to chocolate.
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Daisy Duck:
Wrong. SSA is a psychological disorder that should be treated. Heterosexuality is natural and ordained by Christ and not pathological.
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Trelow
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Other Eric:
You havent’ seen what kind of stuff comes out of europe then have you? :whacky:
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pnewton
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I have a question, if anyone here knows. On another thread, twice someone said homosexuals were born that way, once that it was in the DNA. I didn’t want to completely hijack that other thread and this place seems more on topic. Has there ever been a shred of evidence that homosexuals are born homosexual?
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Genesis315
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Daisy Duck:
Nope. That’s like saying kleptomania is as much a mental disorder as desiring not to steal things.
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Other_Eric
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Hi pnewton!
Yes, there are some studies that advocates for a biological origin of homosexuality point to, but they are all really, really bad.
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fix
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None that is authentic and well researched. Even if there was a genetic component that would not legitimize any part of the "gay’ agenda.
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Teelynn
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I think homosexuality is not as cut and dried as simply saying it is a “choice”. I think alot more has to be studied about it. I have personally seen many homosexuals (males and females) that have definite physical and personality charactaristics that give them away every time. Are you all saying that this is a “conscious effort” to display such charactaristics to prove or to justify their sexual preference? I think it is much more complicated than just a matter of “choice.”
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Genesis315
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I agree. The urges are most likely not chosen per se, but acting on them is most definitely a choice. That goes for everyone in regards to sin in general. Most of us wish we didn’t have the urge to sin, but we do have it. We can still choose not to sin however.
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TlaIoc
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There’s evidence that homosexuality has a genetic component. That’s not the same as saying it is entirely genetic. The evidence for this is pretty solid despite what some of the other posters claim (different rates of homosexuality in monozygotic and dizygotic twins).
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TlaIoc
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The vatican however is not comprised of mental health experts. The American Psychological Association and American Psychiatric Association are however, and both agree that homosexuality is not a mental health disorder.
You can claim that they were pressured in the 70s to make the change initially but to claim that thirty years later the vast majority of psychologists and psychiatrists are all pressured into accepting the “homosexual agenda” is borderline paranoia.
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Lisa_N
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Sure it’s more complicated than looking at the dessert tray and deciding between the cheesecake and tiramisu—and far less appealing than either.
As to the mannerisms I assure you they can be turned on and off. One of my good friends who was heterosexual when I met him, albeit rather slight of build, is now a self described homosexual. I interact with him in a business situation where he is straight appearing and acting as anyone. Go to dinner where he meets up with homosexual friends or vamps at the matre d’ to get us a better table and he looks mighty loose in his loafers. I have another homosexual friend who is a professional and again at work you would never know (and that is FINE with me) about his sex life. Out at a bar, you see a different side.
As to the females, they too can put on a look to identify as homosexuals. One woman I have known since she was a kid appeared at an social event, having ‘come out’ during college. This cute blond, blue eyed, curly haired, dimple chinned kid weighed 200 lbs, wore overalls, no makeup, and had almost a mannish haircut. Oh I think she was making a statement all right.
So as to mannerisms, swishy walks, limp wrists or ‘she-males’ it is an act just like other group identities are acts. Don’t tell me Fifty Cent was born acting like a goon.
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Viki59
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Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.
Seriously, I don’t know where you live but in Seattle, to breath a word against homosexuals will cost you your job. I truly believe that professionals have accepted the homosexual agenda out of a desire to be considered tolerant (the only virtue now accepted) and a misguided zeal for civil rights for all.
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Lisa4Catholics
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Up untill the DSMIII it was a mental disorder and it is not paranoia it is fact.Now it is of popular opinion nothing is sinful it is all relative.Freud was obsessed with sex and apparently so is the elites of our society.Thankfully the young people are starting to see through the hogwash they have been taught by the so-called free thinkers who make the temporal their masters and live in misery and unrest.:nope:
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Lisa4Catholics
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You can however be untolerant to Christians
You are only supposed to tolerate what you want to hear
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fix
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APA has plenty of credentialed misfits who value paganism and false science over authentic truth. SSA is a disorder. You know well that SSAD was removed as a diagnosis for political reasons.
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Lisa_N
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Same here in the Portland area. We have an ‘openly homosexual’ city commissioner who shares this with anyone who will stand still to listen to him. TMS award to Sam Adams! Since when has aberrant behavior put you into a protected class? As you said people have decided that ‘tolerance’ is more important than truth
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