D davidv Guest Jan 17, 2015 #21 Robert_Sock said: Is it really us who decides whether or not to accept this grace, or is it God who has the power whether or not to bestow it? Again I’ll state that free will is greatly hindered when looking at the real picture of things. Click to expand... If it is not us, then sin is merely a cruel joke, not based on reality. For sin to be real it must be based on the freedom choose evil over good.
Robert_Sock said: Is it really us who decides whether or not to accept this grace, or is it God who has the power whether or not to bestow it? Again I’ll state that free will is greatly hindered when looking at the real picture of things. Click to expand... If it is not us, then sin is merely a cruel joke, not based on reality. For sin to be real it must be based on the freedom choose evil over good.
R Robert_Sock Guest Jan 17, 2015 #22 davidv said: If it is not us, then sin is merely a cruel joke, not based on reality. For sin to be real it must be based on the freedom choose evil over good. Click to expand... The topic in our above exchange dealt with God’s grace, not our choosing good over evil.
davidv said: If it is not us, then sin is merely a cruel joke, not based on reality. For sin to be real it must be based on the freedom choose evil over good. Click to expand... The topic in our above exchange dealt with God’s grace, not our choosing good over evil.
O oldcelt Guest Jan 17, 2015 #23 Free will must apply in all cases, at all times, or it is merely an illusion. John
