Is Islam a threat to Christianity around the globe?

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Sicilian,

We hear you…more and more Americans do not want our country to become another England.
 
Great Britain harbors the most terrorists now…and there are towns where militant Muslims have intimidated the British police…seen videos…it is frightening…

The founder of Al Qaeda, not Bin Ladin, does not like what he is seeing in Europe…that continent has opened its arms and fed and clothed and allowed freedom to many Muslims…but for those to insult and abuse the native people is very wrong…and he has the decency to admit that.
 
Let’s do more substantiating our claims and less pontificating on how things must be in places we don’t live, please. Certainly there are problems with radical Islam in England, but radical Islam is a problem everywhere, and it’s no reason to talk about “becoming another England” as though the entire country is nothing but Islamists and their sympathizers. We have several posters here on CAF who are either from England or currently reside there, and funnily enough they’re never the ones who make such statements.
 
OK! Yes, it is like labelling them to defeat…i say that in response to the videos and comments coming from the stories…
 
sedonaman said:
Why don’t you check the library?
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Because there isn’t an English library in the entire country? :rolleyes:

I depend on the internet. I made my initial comment about the article hoping that someone might be able to add further to her article.
I don’t know why you have reacted with such unreasonable antagonism and hostility.

😦 Good-bye.
 
TRhen how do you explain the rise of the pejorative term Londinistan? There is even a book on the subject. You can also read how there is great disquiet at the rise of Islam in Britain.

That last link tells us
In order to facilitate this enormous (not to mention unwarranted and unmandated) social change, the political élite have enabled changes in legislation and policy that not only facilitate and encourage Islamisation (with blind eyes turned to some of its less-acceptable practices and customs), but have enacted legislation and a culture of political correctness aimed at restricting criticism of it.
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Then there is this article, The Islamisation of Britain which quotes an article from the Church of England newspaper, lamenting the reverse discrimination which is white-anting Britain’s Christian heritage.

Britain’s Evening Standard tells us that emigration levels are at record levels with 200,000 Britons fleeing the UK each year as record 160,000 foreigners are granted citizenship.

That article tells us that
The rising rate of emigration meant that nearly 1.6 million Britons left the country to live abroad between 1997 and 2006.
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Islam isn’t only a threat to Christianity, it is a threat to humanity.
 
That’s strange, because I have been reading her articles for years and I recall no “slagging of the Catholic Church” as you call it. In fact I have found her to be one of the few journalists who consistently writes on what she sees as the trashing of the west’s Judeo-Christian heritage.

As a matter of fact, on January 6th she wrote
Social liberalism is all about destroying the normative Judeo-Christian moral principles of society which social conservatism is all about defending.
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On December 14th, last year, she wrote an article lambasting the Church of England, which she sees as doing it’s bit to undermine Britain’s social structure. In that article she wrote
Rationality is actually underpinned by Judeo-Christian beliefs…Without the Biblical narrative, which gave the world the revolutionary idea of an orderly universe that could therefore be investigated by the use of reason, science would never have developed in the first place.
And it was the Judeo-Christian belief that all individuals are made equal in the image of God that gave rise to human rights and democracy.
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In that same article she lauds the US for its open Christian beleifs.

She is very pro-Israel and has lambasted the British government for being a false freind to Israel and for giving credence to the antisemetic attitudes on display in Britain at the moment.
On 28th December last year she wrote
"…its hostility has contributed enormously to the climate of rabid hysteria, irrationality and bigotry towards Israel now consuming British public debate.
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She constantly rails against the moral decline of Britain and the west in general and passionately regrets the breakdown in social morals and institutions…

On september 18th 2006 she wrote an article on the Jihad against the Pope, in which she wrote
If we are ever to defeat the global jihad against free societies, it is vital to tell that truth — that it is the West that is under attack. It is in that context that the Pope’s remarks must be seen — defending Christianity and western civilisation from an onslaught that has not just snuffed out many innocent lives, but seeks to snuff out freedom and truth itself.
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The only article I can find in her archives which is in any way crtical of the Church is that of February 28th 2009, where she expresses dismay at the Pope’s lifting of an excommunication edict against Britain’s Bishop Richard Willaimson, a holocaust denier and who is “… on record as saying that the Jews are fighting for world domination ‘to prepare the Anti-Christ’s throne in Jerusalem”. Fair criticism I’d say.

I have not found any anti-Catholic writings in her archives and I’d be appreciative if you could show me where her “…slagging of the Catholic Church quite constantly…” might be found.
 
Jean_1958 said:
I had no idea that this was happening in the UK. I hope it never gets to this in the US.

telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3965637/Indulgence-of-Islam-is-harming-society.html
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Jean, it is far worse than even that article tells us. Read Censorship by Intimidation, written by British Journalist, Melanie POhillips, who writes extensively on this topic. She sees that the secularisation of European society is trashing the Judeo-Christian heritage of the west, creating a moral vacuum into which steps a ruthless Islam. Christianity moves to appease and worsens the situation. Sad, really.
 
John21652 said:
Jean, it is far worse than even that article tells us. Read Censorship by Intimidation, written by British Journalist, Melanie POhillips, who writes extensively on this topic. She sees that the secularisation of European society is trashing the Judeo-Christian heritage of the west, creating a moral vacuum into which steps a ruthless Islam. Christianity moves to appease and worsens the situation. Sad, really.
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Many are troubled by the present version of Islam which takes up Jihad with weapons as its main belief. It is true that the Muslims are suffering very much due to the attack from the white people of the west. So many Muslims are now struggling under the foriegn attacks. But that is not a struggle for Islam. It is a struggle to save their own skins.

The Muslims should have stayed away from their theory of Jihad with weapons against all non-believers. There was no such order in the Quran to oppose and kill the non-believers. There is not one mistake now. There are many mistakes which are causing harm to Islam and poor Muslims.

The struggle of Muslims in western countries to establish their own law (Sharia) by any means is illegal. They should live and enjoy peacefully there and seek the love of the people of those lands. They should not try to upset the peaceful situation in the land where they are living. Otherwise they will suffer all the more.
 
The best Jihad that the Muslims can carry out in western countries is to deliver sermons in their mosques for all Muslims to remain peaceful, to abide by the laws. They can also deliever sermons to protect all people from sinning and sex and drinking and gambling. But that should also be done very peacefully without mentioning any faith.

There is no need to deliver any political lecture from the loudspeakers of the mosques. The Mosques should only be used for spiritual uplift only.For prayers and for struggle against bad habits, gently.
 
planten said:
Many are troubled by the present version of Islam which takes up Jihad with weapons as its main belief. It is true that the Muslims are suffering very much due to the attack from the white people of the west. So many Muslims are now struggling under the foriegn attacks. But that is not a struggle for Islam. It is a struggle to save their own skins.

The Muslims should have stayed away from their theory of Jihad with weapons against all non-believers. There was no such order in the Quran to oppose and kill the non-believers. There is not one mistake now. There are many mistakes which are causing harm to Islam and poor Muslims.

The struggle of Muslims in western countries to establish their own law (Sharia) by any means is illegal. They should live and enjoy peacefully there and seek the love of the people of those lands. They should not try to upset the peaceful situation in the land where they are living. Otherwise they will suffer all the more.
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It is very true that the white people of the West have had their hospitality and tolerance turned back on them by the intolerance of Islam. The Islamic religion keeps demanding more and more concessions in the name of religious tolerance, yet displays none of that tolerance it expects from others.

Indeed, Muslims should not take up weapons in Jihad, for they take innocent lives. However, Jihad does not just mean the taking up of weapons. Islams persistence and demands are part of Jihad. Jihad demands that Muslims reshape a society in the image of Islam. It is an ever ongoing battle for supremacy, weapons or no weapons. The more secular the west becomes, the more important Jihad becomes to islam, because secularism is apostasy. The result is an inevitable clash of cultures.
 
planten said:
The best Jihad that the Muslims can carry out in western countries is to deliver sermons in their mosques for all Muslims to remain peaceful, to abide by the laws. They can also deliever sermons to protect all people from sinning and sex and drinking and gambling. But that should also be done very peacefully without mentioning any faith.

There is no need to deliver any political lecture from the loudspeakers of the mosques. The Mosques should only be used for spiritual uplift only.For prayers and for struggle against bad habits, gently.
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The trouble with Islam is that the Muslims cannot agree on a consistent interpretation of the Quran. It is a fragmented religion without a controlling Caliphate and so interpretations of the Quran and Hadiths are left up to individual Mullahs, many of whom think the Quranic interpretations should be more literal and therefore stricter. This tension within Islam is what gives us Jihad by the sword and what we call terrorism. It even takes a form of Jihad against other Muslims. It is a crazy, disunited, unpredictable religion whose adherents are too easily influenced by extreme Mullahs preaching intolerance and contempt in their Mosques. the result, home grown radicals in the UK and Australia. And, let’s not forget the constant Jihad against the sovereign state of israel.
 
How is this for an islamic threat to the West?!

Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Monday that Iran is set to deliver a “punch” that will stun world powers during this week’s 31st anniversary of the Islamic revolution.
“The Iranian nation, with its unity and God’s grace, will punch the arrogance (Western powers) on the 22nd of Bahman (February 11) in a way that will leave them stunned,” Khamenei, who is also Iran’s commander-in-chief, told a gathering of air force personnel.

The country’s top cleric was marking the occasion when Iran’s air force gave its support to revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, a key event which led to the toppling of the US-backed shah on February 11, 1979.

His comments came as Iran said it would begin to produce higher enriched uranium from Tuesday, in defiance of Western powers trying to ensure the country’s nuclear drive is peaceful.

This year’s anniversary is expected to become a flashpoint between security forces and supporters of opposition leaders Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi, who charge that the June re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was rigged.

Opposition supporters are expected to stage anti-government protests on Thursday when the traditional regime-sponsored marches to mark the revolution take place across the country.

Mousavi renewed his call for demonstrations on the February 11 anniversary.

Just over a week ago, he and Karroubi had implicitly called for a gathering of their supporters.

“The 22nd of Bahman is upon us, truly it should be called the day of gathering,” Mousavi said on his Kaleme.org website Monday.

“I feel we have to participate while maintaining the collective spirit as well as our identity and leave an impression,” Mousavi said.

"Anger and bitterness should not take our control away.

“The clerics should know that since imprisonment, beatings, and other confrontational methods are done in the name of Islam and the Islamic regime, it is hurting Islam and we all should try to stop,” he added.

Anti-government protests were first triggered after the June 12 presidential election won by Ahmadinejad.

Over the past eight months, several thousand people were arrested. Some were released and others were given hefty prison terms, among them politicians, journalists and human rights activists.

Two protesters were tried, convicted and hanged in the aftermath of the election.

Khamenei told the air force personnel the “most important aim of the sedition after the election was to create a rift within the Iranian nation, but it was unable to do so and our nation’s unity remained a thorn in its eyes.”
 
planten said:
Many are troubled by the present version of Islam which takes up Jihad with weapons as its main belief. It is true that the Muslims are suffering very much due to the attack from the white people of the west. So many Muslims are now struggling under the foriegn attacks. But that is not a struggle for Islam. It is a struggle to save their own skins.

Oh, those aggressive “white people of the west.” :rolleyes: Muslims suffer more at the hands of other Muslims. As an Ahmadi, Planten, you of all people should know that.

The Muslims should have stayed away from their theory of Jihad with weapons against all non-believers. There was no such order in the Quran to oppose and kill the non-believers. There is not one mistake now. There are many mistakes which are causing harm to Islam and poor Muslims.

Yes, they should have stayed away from it. But the Qu’ran says “slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” (9:5) Those of us who have any knowledge of Islam at all or have been on this forum for any length of time know about that one.

The struggle of Muslims in western countries to establish their own law (Sharia) by any means is illegal. They should live and enjoy peacefully there and seek the love of the people of those lands. They should not try to upset the peaceful situation in the land where they are living. Otherwise they will suffer all the more.
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Yes, they should be peaceful. Most of us westerners wouldn’t have a problem with them if they were.
 
February 10, 2010.
WAR OF THE ROSARIES part 1
Final battle[Catholic and Islam]
“The Lord your God is One and He alone must be worshiped”.
Every known religious faith professes the existence of only One God.
And truly consider the worship of other gods an act of sacrilege.
Following the fall of Adam, the knowledge of the true God was hidden from mankind, who are the descendants of Adam.
It was quite easy for the demonic agents, in an unholy alliance with Satan, to infiltrate the entire communities of the world, with false worships, in order to consolidate the evil reign of Satan over the earth.
“The Call of Abraham”, is the battle-draw, revealing the true God and His plan of Salvation to the world.
The victory of Christ on the cross of Calvary defeated and vanquished Satan and his principalities of evil forever.
However, the ultimate victory of Christ is hinged on the faith of his Church.
To prove the confidence [perfection] of the catholic faith, the Holy Spirit would enable the church, to defeat the spiritual institution of Satan [Islam], and his numerous tentacles, [other religious, mystic, faith houses and other Christian denominations among others].
This spiritual conflict between the forces of good and evil, is “Ancestral”. Embracing humanity universally through Abraham.
The Faith of Abraham, determines the true God of Abraham, between the Almighty[Trinity] and Allah.
God’s covenant with Abraham and his descendants is everlasting and universally embracing.
The everlasting separation of the Living and the Dead, through the ancestry of Abraham is represented by the two sons.
Ishmael, the slave son of Abram, was not the product of the faith of Abraham.
Ishmael was adopted by Abraham through circumcision, at the time Abraham was 99years old. [99% Abraham]
Isaac , the son of the covenant, is the only heir of Abraham, conceived and born legitimately at the time Abraham was 100 years old.[100% Abraham]
The God of Isaac and the God of Ishmael and now separated by the Rosaries.
The Islamic Rosary recognize the god, Allah with 99titles[99% God] excluding the Father title of the Almighty, with which the Catholic faith commune with God.
God’s Covenant with Abraham is universal and everlasting.
The Almighty’s choice of Isaac [heir] over Ishmael, means that they must not share the same father and the same God.
God’s work of salvation, through Christ Jesus, His Son, is for the freedom of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the chosen descendants, who would belong to the almighty forever, as the [universal] living Israelites.
It could only mean that Ishmael, Esau and all those condemned in the Final judgment, represent the dead children of Abraham universally.
They would remain banished forever, in hell with Allah, [The god and father of evil and death] and his forces of darkness into perpetual punishment.
This spiritual warfare also reveals a conflict of Identity [Christ’s divinity]
Following the victory of Christ, the early disciples began the work of evangelisation in earnest, from the land of Israel .
Many persecutions and troubles, forced the early church to remove headquarters from Jerusalem to Rome , where she became known as the Roman Catholic Church.
The Apostle Peter, appointed leader of the Church, died in Rome 67AD, under the emperor Nero, and was quickly succeeded by Pope Linus.
The spread of Christianity was recording huge victory for Christ in Europe and beyond. And the Church was closing in on Satan and his powers of evil, as his religious tentacles of war was collapsing world wide.
However, the spread of Mohammedanism [Islam], about 622A.D, became a cog in the universal Catholic wheel of progress.
Satan and his Islam could never overthrow the true religion, [Catholic Faith] to win the spiritual battle.
But a stalemate is in his favour, as this would extend the life-line, and the reign of evil over the earth.
The spiritual campaign of Islam, is the most perfect design of Satan, to position himself before the world, as the God of Abraham.
Hence Islam recognizes Abraham’s offer of Ishmael to their God, Allah as one of the pillars of Islam.
And more viciously, to stake his claim on the humanity of the Lord Jesus, Islam proclaims him the prophet of Allah.
Concealing the divinity of Christ, would divert the world from the Holy Cross of Salvation, and pave the way for the forces of evil to make stronger incursions against the catholic faith.
Even though the Holy Spirit guarantees the victory of the Church, over the threat of Islam, [the gate of hell], the combination of satanic incursions targeted at the true body of Christ, would be challenging enough to shake the faith of the church.
The wave of Protestantism in the 1520s was the most damaging upset to the oneness of the Church.
Firstly, The Anabaptist movement [Nick Stork] in Germany. The Lutheran movement [Martin Luther], Church of England, Anglican Communion [King [Henry viii], Jehovah witness [Charles Russel], 7th day Adventist, the Pentecostal movements.
These account for the over 100,000 independent Christian ministries in the world today, existing without spiritual origin.
 
Part 2 [concluded]
Considering that Rebellion is Witchcraft, and Arrogance is Idolatry, by divine definition; both fundamental errors combine to separate these ministries, from union with the Holy Mother of God, the Apostles and the Holy Angels and Saints, on whose constant intercession the Holy Church rely for help.
Worse still, they are disconnected from the Holy Spirit, the binding power of the Church, leading her to all truth.
Reliance on the power of human intellect and logic, in interpreting the book of Faith, is more appealing to the world. Academic arguments, is a more effective instrument of deception, yet it is most deceptive and opposed to true Faith.
True Knowledge of God, could never be revealed through human understanding of the Word of Truth. But through the Faith of the Church.
This is because the word of truth is a double-edged sword, and human knowledge could only expose man to one edge of the sword.
‘Faith’ is ancient, primitive and without glamour to the world.
‘Faith is the Father [source] of Knowledge and it is Catholic.
The imposition of the Islamic Mosque, in the holy altar of the Catholic Church in England, now reveals the crucial spiritual assignment of the Church to the world.
Please visit the Rosary group of this Forum, to become a judge and jury.
Through the study of the presented judgment briefs [1 to 55], you must identify, capture, and reveal the ‘Awful Horror’. Thereby separating the two spiritual super powers of good and evil, forever.
Individually, you must note and understand that the salvation work of Christ is deeper than our religious inclinations.
The everlasting law of love, governing true religion is implanted in our human hearts.
Faith and selfless deeds of mercy is not separable. Corporal works of Love could win us the favour of God.
My book, ‘True Confession and Perfect Deception’ bears witness to the spiritual clash in England.
Readers must note and understand, the deep mysteries and riddles, unveiled by the Holy Spirit, under the banner of the Church.
 
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