Is Islam's Allah a Moon god ?

[manx]

GregoryPalamas:

Judgment day will tell.

Dan L

Spot-on Greggy!

peace,

manx

 

[GregoryPalamas]

Of course, America is a violent culture. You astonishingly believe that it is not. But, its violence does not come from its religion.

What is your point about Iraq?

Dan L

 

[r.gonzales]

ah, robert morey’s moon-god claims.

these have been replied to. click here

 

[Jermin_Savory]

In the name of Allah

            Proud Kafir in his lies again...

Proud Kafir: Historical evidences, impartial logic, well versed references and all available circumstantial judgments can very well prove that—(a) Allah name of deity was pre-existed much before the arrival of Islam, (b) Pre-Islamic Pagan peoples worshipped Allah as their supreme deity (moon-god). Allah’s name existed in pre-Islamic Arab. In ancient Arab the Allah was considered to be the supreme God/deity (as Moon-God) and Arab Pagans worshipped Allah before Islam arrived.

Jermin Savory:

"An “average Muslim”, after reading the above would most probably quote you the following two verses from the Holy Qur’an. These two verses are enough to knock out the brain of FALSEHOOD.

"Among His Signs are the Night and the Day and the Sun and Moon. Prostrate (adore) not to the Sun and the Moon but prostrate to Allah, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve." Holy Qur'an  41:37

"Nay We hurl the Truth against falsehood and it knocks out its brain and behold falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us). Holy Qur'an  21:18"

 

[fatuma]

GregoryPalamas:

Of course, America is a violent culture. You astonishingly believe that it is not. But, its violence does not come from its religion.

What is your point about Iraq?

Dan L

Why don’t you do a little unbiased history search about these areas and try to learn how they are they way that they are. Little things like, colonialism, poverty, globalization, puppet government, Transnationals…etc.

wa salam

 

[manx]

In the name of Allah

If this is the way we think, then every religion and every culture is violent. Every culture, background and religion have had bloody feuds in which sometimes resulted in Thousands of Dead people.

Hey pals! See what I found from www.beliefnet.com ! I highly suggest that all of us read and understand this article. I am sure it can promote better understanding.

The Problem with Monotheism
*Why the world’s two largest faiths, Christianity and Islam, have a tendency to ‘turn evil.’

Interview by Deborah Caldwell *

Note that Charles Kimball said that there are several factors that can lead followers of a religious tradition to violence “that contradicts what’s at the very heart of their religious tradition”:

*** A belief that only they know what God wants.

• Blind obedience to a leader - “When people become so convinced of a particular person or charismatic leader that they blindly will follow that person.”
• The end justifies the means. Kimball says this is one of the “scariest” notions of all.**

The problem is when people become convinced they know the route to the peaceable kingdom and they are God’s agents to make it happen. And here is where you get groups of extremist Jews whose messianic mission leads them to tunnel under the Dome of the Rock and try to blow it up in order to facilitate the building of the Third Temple. Or Christian fundamentalist groups who long for Armageddon to the point that they will support violent extremists trying to destroy the Dome of the Rock.

Obviously, the behaviors outlined by Kimball are not just found in Islam. They can be demonstrated by all religious groups as you can see from the article.

just me,

manx

 

[Jermin_Savory]

In the name of Allah (The one and only TRUE God)

ProudKafir: Wake up Maryam. This how Lucifer Shaitan deceives 1.2 billion muslims. Muslims are deceived into thinking Allah means “submission to God”

Jermin Savory: No Proud kafir, Muslims are assured by the Qur’an that Allah is the One and Only True Creator. As we can see, Proud Kafir doesn’t know the meaning of Allah. Allah, means The One And Only God. Ahad = One, Only, Alone. Allahu Sumad = Absolute Eternal Everlasting. Proud Kafir, as we can see has not opened his mind and eyes as yet, he says that “Fruits of islam is better” how will you know the fruits of islam is better when you biasly extract the neggative points of the Few Muslims who aren’t good examples of islam? The teachings of islam can be found in action when one analyzes the actions of a practicing Muslims, examples of islam are taken from the followers of islam, those who submit their will to Allah and follow the Qur’an. What proud Kafir does is looks at the examples of People like Bin Laden and make them a prime example of what islam is. This way of thinking will lead one to failure. when they are really worshipping a moon god. That’s why Islamic world is backward in everything, Fruits of Islam is bitter.

 

[GregoryPalamas]

fatuma:

Why don’t you do a little unbiased history search about these areas and try to learn how they are they way that they are. Little things like, colonialism, poverty, globalization, puppet government, Transnationals…etc.

wa salam

Ok, I know I haven’t spent as much time as you have. I’ve only been at it for 40 years or so but here are my answers:

1. Colonialism: Yeah in the 18th and 19th century Europe wanted all of Sudans oil. The Europeans weren’t sure why as the internal combustion engine hadn’t been developed yet but they were sure that there must be oil there someplace.

Seriously, at least some of the colonialism had to do with trying to stop Muslims from mistreating Christians. It worked in some areas. Of course, it is customary for Muslims to blame the Europeans for their problems and since many Americans look like Europeans they want to blame the US for all of their economic and political backwardness. Yet Islamic cultures had their advanced periods…it helped of course that much of the expertise came from the captive peoples that they dominated and from which they extorted protection money.

1. Poverty: Many of the leaders in Muslim countries, which of course, aren’t Muslim countries by many posters here, make themselves rich off the backs of the Muslim people they control and off the Christians and Jews that they extorted. Pointing ones fingers at outsiders does not solved the problems. Zakat is excellent in principle but why doesn’t it seem to work better than it does?
2. Globalization: Do you mean like “ummah” and “dar al harb”. Everyone is trying to practice globalization. I will admit that the Nazis and Stalinists practiced globalization on some Muslim countries and they ate it up. Take a look at all of the “…stans” who blame everyone but themselves for their own problems.
3. Puppet Governments: Do you mean like the Saudis who are the puppets of the Salafi/Wahhabis?
4. Transnationals: Besides pouring too much money into Middle Eastern countries why does this present problems that ought not to be dealt with by people in those countires.

Yes, I think we ought to stop buying oil from any “Muslim/non-Muslim/Quasi-Muslim” nation that supports terrorism. Does that mean that traditional Muslims are ready to throw off the yoke of their own oppression? TE Lawrence tried and see what it got him?

When all is said and done “Taking Back Islam” says it well when author after author suggests that the greatest enemy of Islam is Muslims.

Gandhi said pretty much the same thing about Christians, if you all remember, so we have little to be proud of.

Dan L

 

[Eetaq]

Does it matter if the name Allah is taken from the former main deity of a polytheist religion?

How do you know what the origins of the term “God” are?

I think whats important is that both Catholics and Muslims are worshipping the same deity, just by different names.

Christians who speak Arabic call him Allah too, so maybe it was the Christian ‘Allah’ that came from a moon god.

No one debate this issue, since we all know the answer.

 

[Ahimsa]

Eetaq:

Does it matter if the name Allah is taken from the former main deity of a polytheist religion?

How do you know what the origins of the term “God” are?

I think whats important is that both Catholics and Muslims are worshipping the same deity, just by different names.

Christians who speak Arabic call him Allah too, so maybe it was the Christian ‘Allah’ that came from a moon god.

No one debate this issue, since we all know the answer.

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[Proud_Kafir]

Jermin Savory: The method of this conclusion can easily be identified by just seeing that Proud kafir is judging from the handful of Muslims who are fighting in the name of islam.

Proud Kafir : How many handful of Muslims ? One muslim told 5% of muslims may support terrorism. Even if it is true, there are 60 million diehard muslim supporters of OBL’s Jihadi Terrorism who are ready to blow up themselves anytime with high-pitch yelling of Allah-Hu-Akbar. This is still dangerous. At the time of Mohammed, Muslims were minority in Arabia. These minority muslims have started to involved in plundering, looting, killing, enslaving other tribes of Arabia in the name of Islam and went to on to take over entire Arabia. So, these 5% of die hard followers of Mohammed can create a big havoc than 100MT Nuclear Bomb. They are not following anything new. They just follow What first muslim Mohammed did. That’s why we should expose Mohammed and his violent dogma.

Jermin Savory: If this is the way we think, then every religion and every culture is violent…we shouldn’t blame islam for the handful of wrong that some Muslims may have done.

Proud Kafir : Tell me which religion other than Islam is telling to its followers to go on killing rampage ?

Can you find a Hindu wears a bomb belt and blow himself in a temple ?
Can you find a Budhhist wears a bomb belt and blow himself in his holy place ?
Can you find a Christian wears a bomb belt and blow himself in Church ?
Can you find a Jew wears a bomb belt and blow himself in synogauge ?

Why only muslims ? It is not the problems of Muslims. It is the problem of Intolerence incited by Quran. Don’t blame media or anti-islam for this problem.That is lame excuse.

Can you find a picture like this in any other religion?

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All religions strike a balance between love and divine retribution, peace and punishment. But with Islam, that’s simply not true.

 

[Proud_Kafir]

**Jermin savory : ** What proud Kafir does is looks at the examples of People like Bin Laden and make them a prime example of what islam is. This way of thinking will lead one to failure.

Proud Kafir : Dear Jermin savory, I don’t need to look at Bin Laden for Islam. I only see the first muslims, So-Called final prophet, Highly morale man, Highly exemplary man Mohammed and his gang.

Confucius said: You can judge a man by seeing how his words match his deeds.

Quran tells, Marry 4 wives. But, Mohammed married more than 10 wives including molesting a 6 year old child and his own daugther-in-law ?
Mohammed massacred whoever criticised him, involved in wholesale massacre of Jews, ordered for ethnic cleansing of Jews and Christians out of Arabia, waged surprise attack on peaceful tribes, plundered their wealth, enslaved their women and raped them. Remember, for all these immoral acts, his sidekick Allah didn’t make any objection. Mohammed told whoever obeys Mohammed, he obeys Allah. Gullible Arabians were deceived.

How do you consider this man as Prophet of God ? Your own islamic sources prove Mohammed can not be prophet of God. Mullahs and Imams have lied to you. People like Bin Laden are just victims of Mohammed’s evil dogma.

I heard you were a Catholic. What did you find wrong in Golden Rule of Jesus ? Did you find Jesus’s “Love your enemies, Pray for your enemies” is morally wrong than Mohammed’s “Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them” ?

Frankly, I tell you, you were deceived by Sugar Coated Islam which was diluted to deceive you. You were deceived by Sugar Coated Islam. Islam is an imperialistic socio-politico ideology to dominate on others. There is nothing in Islam related to Spiritual guidance, to change mind and heart. I hope you will revert back to your old religion.

 

[Proud_Kafir]

Eetaq:

Does it matter if the name Allah is taken from the former main deity of a polytheist religion?

That means Allah is just the revised version of Pre-Islamic moon god, supreme-deity, the god of mohammed. Muslims pray to god of mohammed. Mohammed was possessed by evil spirits many times. In various places mohammed has changed the unity of God. Have you heard about satanic verses ?

Look what mohammed said,

Volume 1, Book 10, Number 529:

Narrated Qais:

Jarir said, "We were with the Prophet and he looked at the moon–full-moon–and said, 'Certainly you will see your Lord as you see this moon and you will have no trouble in seeing Him. ’

Volume 1, Book 10, Number 547:
Narrated Jarir bin 'Abdullah:

We were with the Prophet on a full moon night. He looked at the moon and said, "You will certainly see your Lord as you see this moon, and there will be no trouble in seeing Him.’

So, Mohammed has identified Moon as his god. But, Mohammed, the evil genious, said to Arabians that Allah is none other than our existing moon god, so we can still practise the same pagan rituals such as pilgrimage, 5 time prayer, kaabah, kissing black stone etc. But, to Jews and Christians, he told your God and my God is same. But, Jews and Christians didn’t accept Mohammed as Prophet. They knew Mohammed was a false prophet. So, The fact is, Muslim’s Allah is not the same God of Jews and Christians, as muslims want to deceive Western Christians.

Eetaq:

I think whats important is that both Catholics and Muslims are worshipping the same deity, just by different names.

Please Don’t fool yourself by saying this(If you are a Catholic).

Quran Says Clearly,
**Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them. ** (5:51)
Don’t choose Jews, Christians, or disbelievers as guardians. (5:57)

If you worship same deity, Then why that deity tries to create enmity among it’s believers ? Any one of this deity must be wrong. How to find which deity is wrong ? Find it by it’s fruits.

Eetaq:

Christians who speak Arabic call him Allah too, so maybe it was the Christian ‘Allah’ that came from a moon god.

When Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs pray in English, they all call their deity as “God”. Does it mean all worship the same God ? No. In their mind they imagine different deity, they offer prayers to different deities. This is much like interacting with cults who tend to use the same language to describe different concepts and identities. To add salt to wound, Muslims also claim Jesus is not Son of God, He has not died in the Cross. Islam rejects all the fundemental dogma of Christianity. The most worst thing is, they equate unholy immoral false prophet Mohammed with Jesus.

Then, How do you say Catholics and Muslims are worshipping the same deity ?

Muslim activists in the West have been using the tactic of claiming that they worship the same god as the Christians in order to gain legitimacy and acceptance, and to convert more christians. People like Jermin savory are victims of such tactics.
They have been using the name “God” in place of “Allah” in many translations of the Qur’an. But, Muslims DO NOT pray to the same God (Yahweh/ Jehovah ) of Christians and Jews.

Muslim activists in the West want to present Islam as a peaceful and tolerant religion. They lie. They twist the facts. They hide the evidence not because they truly believe that Islam is a religion of peace, for anyone who reads that book knows that this is not so. They lie to gain advantages, especially in the West as long as Islam is in the minority and as long as it is weak. But as soon as Islam become powerful, all that sweet talk of tolerance is put aside, the mask will be off and the real face of Islam as evinced by its founder will become manifest. Then those phony smiles give way to showing the fangs. This is precisely how the Prophet himself acted. When he was in Mecca and weak, he spoke of tolerance, but when he became powerful he forgot all that talk and started his campaign of genocide of the Jews and the Christians of Arabia.

 

[Eetaq]

Proud Kafir:

That means Allah is just the revised version of Pre-Islamic moon god, supreme-deity, the god of mohammed. Muslims pray to god of mohammed. Mohammed was possessed by evil spirits many times. In various places mohammed has changed the unity of God. Have you heard about satanic verses ?

Look what mohammed said,

Volume 1, Book 10, Number 529:

Narrated Qais:

Jarir said, "We were with the Prophet and he looked at the moon–full-moon–and said, 'Certainly you will see your Lord as you see this moon and you will have no trouble in seeing Him. ’

Volume 1, Book 10, Number 547:
Narrated Jarir bin 'Abdullah:

We were with the Prophet on a full moon night. He looked at the moon and said, "You will certainly see your Lord as you see this moon, and there will be no trouble in seeing Him.’

So, Mohammed has identified Moon as his god. But, Mohammed, the evil genious, said to Arabians that Allah is none other than our existing moon god, so we can still practise the same pagan rituals such as pilgrimage, 5 time prayer, kaabah, kissing black stone etc. But, to Jews and Christians, he told your God and my God is same. But, Jews and Christians didn’t accept Mohammed as Prophet. They knew Mohammed was a false prophet. So, The fact is, Muslim’s Allah is not the same God of Jews and Christians, as muslims want to deceive Western Christians.

Please Don’t fool yourself by saying this(If you are a Catholic).

Quran Says Clearly,
**Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them. ** (5:51)
Don’t choose Jews, Christians, or disbelievers as guardians. (5:57)

If you worship same deity, Then why that deity tries to create enmity among it’s believers ? Any one of this deity must be wrong. How to find which deity is wrong ? Find it by it’s fruits.

When Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs pray in English, they all call their deity as “God”. Does it mean all worship the same God ? No. In their mind they imagine different deity, they offer prayers to different deities. This is much like interacting with cults who tend to use the same language to describe different concepts and identities. To add salt to wound, Muslims also claim Jesus is not Son of God, He has not died in the Cross. Islam rejects all the fundemental dogma of Christianity. The most worst thing is, they equate unholy immoral false prophet Mohammed with Jesus.

Then, How do you say Catholics and Muslims are worshipping the same deity ?

Muslim activists in the West have been using the tactic of claiming that they worship the same god as the Christians in order to gain legitimacy and acceptance, and to convert more christians. People like Jermin savory are victims of such tactics.
They have been using the name “God” in place of “Allah” in many translations of the Qur’an. But, Muslims DO NOT pray to the same God (Yahweh/ Jehovah ) of Christians and Jews.

First of all I want everyone to know what kafir means. It is the arabic term for unbeliever. This person’s screen name is proud kafir, so he may be somewhat Biased.

About those hadiths, the meaning is clear. Muhammed is saying that just like you see this moon today when you die you will see God.

That is a horrible translation. look, you are trying to use indirect evidence to prove Allah is not the same as God, but here is very very direct evidence

Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah."

so there you go, it is clearly stated in the qur’an that people of the book (Jews, Christians) worship the same god as muslims.

I also like how in the Qur’an you posted you cut out the word ‘protected’. It is saying dont let them be your friends AND protectors:

O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other.

But there is plenty saying that they can be your friends:

*It may be that Allah will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For Allah has power (over all things); And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. *

The enemies were the Jews and the Qur’aish

*Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. *

Look at that…even though they fight you and drive you out of your homes it is still Ok to be friends with them…

I don’t know the qur’an well enough to post any more, but there are plenty more.

As for the rest of these accusations, I am not going to address those. I will let you make whatever predictions you want.

Peace upon you all, even you, proud kafir, and I pray your heart will be softened.

 

[Proud_Kafir]

Eetaq:

That is a horrible translation. look, you are trying to use indirect evidence to prove Allah is not the same as God, but here is very very direct evidence

Putting the blame on Translation is the lame excuse.

Dear Eetaq, I use various methods to judge Islam. Apart from this Allah-moon God theory, I judge Islam by it’s fruits. I have never seen an ideology other than Islam which incites this much of hate, violence, war, intolerant, dangerous agenda of dominate and enslave others. What is the contribution of Islam for World Progress ? Nothing. BIG ZERO. No Contribution from Islam and From Muslims. Yet, Muslims want us to believe in their fantasy stories that Muslim’s Allah is the only True God. How can we believe in Muslim’s Allah, When fruits of Islam is bitter?

Islam is a strange religion in the world. All religions strike a balance between love and divine retribution, peace and punishment. But with Islam, that’s simply not true. While all major religions in the world are limited only to the spiritual guidance of the people, Islam went further to dominate on others. There is no spiritual guidance in Islam.

Something wrong with Islam, Some bad spiritis are working behind Islam and deceiving Muslims.

Eetaq:

so there you go, it is clearly stated in the qur’an that people of the book (Jews, Christians) worship the same god as muslims.

Judge by fruits, Judge by deeds, Don’t judge by mere words.

Eetaq:

I also like how in the Qur’an you posted you cut out the word ‘protected’. It is saying dont let them be your friends AND protectors:

O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other.

Ok. I didn’t post “protectors”. Will it make any difference ? No. If Muslims and Christians worship same God, then Why that God told “Don’t take Jews and Christians as friends and protectors” ? Something wrong here. Simple Logic, But enormous meaning.

Eetaq:

The enemies were the Jews and the Qur’aish

What crime Jews have done ? Did they waged war on Muslims ? No. Did they kill any muslims ? No.
They didn’t accept Mohammed as prophet. They criticised him. Was the criticism a crime enough to kill Jews in large numbers ?

Did the first muslims headed by Mohammed waged war on Jews ? Yes.
Did the first muslims headed by Mohammed beheaded 900 jews in single day ? Yes.
Did the first muslims headed by Mohammed looted and enslaved their property, women and children in the name of Merciful Allah? Yes.

Muslims were aggressors, forced war on Jews. Finally they claim they are victims.

Eetaq:

Look at that…even though they fight you and drive you out of your homes it is still Ok to be friends with them…

The first muslim Mohammed himself didn’t follow this. So, I take it as TAQIYYA.

 

[Proud_Kafir]

Chi85:

Always_Kafir, don’t forget to mention the carried over (pre-Islamic) pagan worship of the Mecca meteorite.

This is the picture of the Black meteorite stones, the daughters of Allah, the moon god that Muhammad sworn by in the 74th Sura of the Quran that is worshipped by more than a billion Muslims 5 times a day.
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Muslims kissing the 8 pieces of meteorite stone that Muhammad
called “Yamin Allah” (the right hand of Allah).

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Narrated Salim that his father said: **I saw Allah’s Apostle arriving at Mecca; he kissed the Black Stone Corner first while doing Tawaf and did ramal in the first three rounds of the seven rounds (of Tawaf). **(Sahih Bukhari 2.673)









al-Lat, al-Uzza, al Manat, Hubal, Kubaba,

74.32] Nay; I swear by the moon, Kalla walqamar
[74.33] And the night when it departs, Wallayli ith adbar
[74.34] And the daybreak when it shines; Wassubhi itha asfar

 

[shamsery]

Proud Kafir:

Historical evidences, impartial logic, well versed references and all available circumstantial judgments can very well prove that —(a) Allah name of deity was pre-existed much before the arrival of Islam.

At the beginning, I seek refuge in Allah (The One God) from the Satan the cursed, the rejected. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
Beg pardon to you all for my ignorance.
**Mr Proud K, **
Salam,
(May Peace, Mercy and Blessings of Allah – the Almighty God be upon you all).

I don’t know, whether you believe in oneness of God?
Whether you believe in Prophet Moses (Peace be on him)?
Whether you believe in Prophet Jesus Christ (Peace be on him)?

Very well said, Historical evidences, impartial logic, well versed references and all available circumstantial judgments can very well prove that your statement mentioned above is not acceptable to Muslim.
Please note I am not using the word “Islam” here.
**I am a Muslim and my religion is Islam. **
Here I am not am getting involved in comparative study of religion.
**“The root cause of hatred is ignorance”. **
In one point you are correct that,
Allah is the proper Name of the One True God who Created the heavens and the earth. It should be mentioned that Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians call God by the Name Allah.
***He begetteth not, nor is He begotten And there is none like unto Him. ****
If you believe to the above thesis , we don’t find much difference among us.
You might have noticed that I have claimed me as Muslim and my religion is Islam.
Islam is a natural religion of God.
Though I have descried what is the meaning of Islam in other post, let me quote it again fort our ready reference

What is Islam?

**
The Arabic word “Islam” literally means “submission.” Islam, as a faith, means total and sincere submission to God. Such submission to God brings peace and tranquility.
The name Islam is universal in its meaning. It does not refer to a nation or tribe of people, like Judaism which refers to the tribe of Judah. Nor does it take its name from a particular individual, as does Christianity from Christ or Buddhism from Buddha. Islam was not a name chosen by human beings; it was divinely communicated from God. Islam is a complete way of life, implying a total submission to God.
Perhaps you wanted to mean before the arrival of Prophet Mohammad (Pbuh) the word Allah (One true God) was existed on the earth.
The Internet and forum has given us ample scope to communicate among us.
Without malice, hatred, meanness, nastiness, cruelty, vindictiveness we can work to pursue our knowledge.
Knowledge will surely lighted our mental faculty; it will bring harmony and tranquility.
This will help to understand each other.
*And that is the call of the day. **
Thank you.

 

[BigPaulie]

Getting back to the original topic: It is common knowledge in theological circles that Islam is a monotheistic religion.(period)
Also I have heard our Holy Father John Paul II state: “Christians and Muslims pray to the same God”. (Of course I’m paraphrasing.) (Don’t forget he was seen on TV kissing the Quran.)
I have also heard that the aramaic word that Our Lord Jesus Christ spoke when refering to his heavenly Father was: *“Allah” . *
*May God’s Peace be upon all of us. Amen. *
Big Paulie

 

[selvaraj]

I have seen in India,many Muslims engraved the Cresent in their houses along with the number 786. Which written inside the cresent. What does it mean?In Christ,
selvaraj

 

[r.gonzales]

selvaraj:

I have seen in India,many Muslims engraved the Cresent in their houses along with the number 786. Which written inside the cresent. What does it mean?In Christ,
selvaraj

786 is some numerogical mumbo jumbo some ignorant muslims came up with. it’s supposed to mean “bismillah - in the name of Allah” but it has nothing to do with the religion of islam, nor does it have any basis.