Is It a Mortal Sin to Almost Commit a Mortal Sin?

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Case in point, for me, lust/masturbation is a mortal sin issue I frequently have to confront. What if say I am about to masturbate, look at pornography, cyber, etc. but at the last moment before starting I decide not to? Is that a mortal sin? Even though I did not actually commit anything, I had planned it in my head and was actively wanting to do it.
 
Case in point, for me, lust/masturbation is a mortal sin issue I frequently have to confront. What if say I am about to masturbate, look at pornography, cyber, etc. but at the last moment before starting I decide not to? Is that a mortal sin? Even though I did not actually commit anything, I had planned it in my head and was actively wanting to do it.
I don’t know the answer, but I think it is normal to think those thoughts. Many of these free-lovers of today will tell you it isn’t natural to suppress your sexual desires. I will say that as a human being, it is natural to suppress ANY desire that is not morally sound. If it isn’t natural to suppress our deepest desires, then you know how many people would go around killing anyone for any reason at all? When I’m driving on a daily basis there are at least twenty people from twenty different cars that I want to hit with a baseball bat, but because God gave us more will and intellect than the average animal, I have the ability to suppress that in. However, the thoughts still exist.

In the animal kingdom, if the animal chases after the food to hunt and kill it because it wants to, it does. As human beings, we can choose to suppress those desires or not, but they will always exist.
 
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in her heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.”

the Nazarene teaches us that all deeds, good and bad starts within you. these thoughts are who we really are. you can hide them from everybody but God.
 
…but at the last moment before starting I decide not to? Is that a mortal sin?
Here’s the Scripture that applies, in my opinion. Jesus was talking to the chief priests and the elders.

“What do you think? A man had two sons; and he went to the first and said, Son, go and work in the vineyard today.' And he answered, I will not’; but afterward he repented and went. And he went to the second and said the same; and he answered, `I go, sir,’ but did not go. Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, ‘The first.’ … " Matt 21:28-32 (RSV)

When you decided to do it, you said, “I will not.” When you changed your mind, you went to work in the vineyard.

You successfully resisted temptation, which means that you have rejected the sin. Yes, I’d take it to confession anyway. Confess the “I will not.” You will receive graces to help you resist next time.

God bless you, and keep up the good work.

Ruthie
 
Here’s the Scripture that applies, in my opinion. Jesus was talking to the chief priests and the elders.

“What do you think? A man had two sons; and he went to the first and said, Son, go and work in the vineyard today.' And he answered, I will not’; but afterward he repented and went. And he went to the second and said the same; and he answered, `I go, sir,’ but did not go. Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, ‘The first.’ … " Matt 21:28-32 (RSV)

When you decided to do it, you said, “I will not.” When you changed your mind, you went to work in the vineyard.

You successfully resisted temptation, which means that you have rejected the sin. Yes, I’d take it to confession anyway. Confess the “I will not.” You will receive graces to help you resist next time.

God bless you, and keep up the good work.

Ruthie
nsper7 if you read and follow the advice of any of these posts this is the one you should follow…i was in the same postion as you were awhile back except i went through with the sin,because i thought i had already sinned by thinking about doing it,so i figured since i planted the seed i must allow it to grow to fruitation,which is the wrong thing to do,if i had done what you did instead,i would have been better off…all i had to do was reach for God’s grace as you did,it is always there for our strength…keep up your prayers,especially your daily prayer pattern…
 
Very good question and concern to have and good responses so far.

I’ve been in similar situations many times before, where I was on the verge of physically acting out the sin, but stopped before it could be done. However, I see how this is a problem for you because it was enough that we thought about it, and premeditated it. We HAD the intention of doing it, but stopped at the last second…meaning that we WOULD have gone through with it if not for Holy Spirit and/or our guardian angel talking some sense into us and helping us calm or passions or whatever the case is at the right moment. In cases like this, I think it’s still a sin because you willed it to happen, but had a change of heart or were given grace to stop, and God considers that. I think such cases would not be mortal sins.

I would go to confession regardless of whether I had almost committed the sin, however, because it was enough for me to feel guilty that I was so weak and that if just a few more moments or even just a few seconds had gone by, I would have been in mortal sin. Even if in actuality the sin did not occur, the sin existed in my mind and that’s enough for me to want to confess the desire I had to do it, even if I didn’t go through with it physically. The act didn’t happen, but the thoughts did, and that has substance to it and is tangible in it’s own way…tangible enough that it can tempt you in the future and put you into the occasion of sin.

To answer your question directly, no, I don’t think the thought of a mortal sin necessarily equals a mortal sin, nor is ALMOST committing the act count as the same as if you had committed it. If you were possessed to commit murder and did not go through with it, the difference is obvious- the murder did not happen and the person lives. You’d obviously, however, would want to confess this to a priest so he can pray for you and help you out of whatever mentality, illness, or situation that got you there in the first place.

In every day issues, like masturbation as you say, it’s the same thing- you didn’t masturbate even though you might have entertained the thoughts enough that you achieved an erection, or maybe even looked at some pornography. All of these things are sins in their own way however, so you’d need to confess them, especially the pornography, as that is a mortal sin. You’d also want to confess them to get advice from your priest.

The point here is to confess what you DID actually DO. As for the rest, confess it if it’s still sin material or thoughts or desires, but don’t beat yourself up over it. Rather, be glad and rejoice that God gave you what you needed at the right moment to get out of the line of fire. When we’re ‘almost’ in mortal sin, liken it to Satan having a sniper rifle pointed at your soul. He’s got the targeting laser aimed right at your heart, to deliver a mortal wound (mortal sin). He’s got a good lock and he’s ready to fire- but at the last moment, your guardian angel pushes you out of the way and when Satan fires the gun, the bullet zips past where your body was just a moment before, and you’re safe. Realizing you’re in danger and there’s a sniper trying to kill you, you run for cover and protection (confession) and then you’re armed, armored, and safe from future attempts at your life.

I just made up that analogy right now, but I think it works well. Anyone agree? 😃
 
Case in point, for me, lust/masturbation is a mortal sin issue I frequently have to confront. What if say I am about to masturbate, look at pornography, cyber, etc. but at the last moment before starting I decide not to? Is that a mortal sin? Even though I did not actually commit anything, I had planned it in my head and was actively wanting to do it.
Looking at pornography is sinful whether or not it leads to another sin. Looking at pornography creates spiritual disorder in your soul. It robs you of grace and keeps you from the hoilness God intends for you. It destroys in you the virtue of purity. It can often become an addiction. “Whoever sins is a slave to sin”.

Every slave has a slave master. The slave master of a sinner is a cruel master. In order to be free from this cruelty one needs to have someone stronger than his slave master come and set him free. If a soul is freed from the slavery of sin he serves a new master, the one who frees him from bondage and death. The new master says His yoke is easy and His burden is light. It is a joy to serve Him who frees us from evil.

The Jews in physical bondage in Egypt had cruel masters. Moses by the power of God led them out of their bondage, but the journey was difficult. Their story is an analogy. All in spiritual bondage of sin also need to be freed by God, by their Savior and King. The power for you to control your passions comes from God. It is grace. You either have it or you don’t. The evidence of having it is virtue, the absence of the sin.

The evidence of our love for God is obedience. If we do not obey Him we do not love Him. We can not obey Him unless He gives us the power to obey Him. This power or divine help is grace. We receive it through worship.
 
It is almost a mortal sin to almost commit a mortal sin.

I’m not being flip: putting yourself in that position is very, very serious, but not quite a mortal sin.

If it were we’d call it ‘mortal sin’, not ‘almost mortal sin’.
 
Even though I did not actually commit anything, I had planned it in my head and was actively wanting to do it.
The three conditions for mortal sin:

Serious matter
Sufficient reflection
Full consent of the will

If these three conditions are present a mortal sin is committed. The act does NOT have to be actually done.
 
The three conditions for mortal sin:

Serious matter
Sufficient reflection
Full consent of the will

If these three conditions are present a mortal sin is committed. The act does NOT have to be actually done.
Yes, willfully planning to commit a mortal sin is grave matter and should be confessed.
 
I confessed it yesterday to a Priest. By the way, the Priest advised that for the most part thoughts are not mortal sins, whether it’s anger/hatred/violent thoughts or lustful thoughts. It becomes mortal if you act on them.
 
Looking at pornography is sinful whether or not it leads to another sin. Looking at pornography creates spiritual disorder in your soul. It robs you of grace and keeps you from the hoilness God intends for you. It destroys in you the virtue of purity. It can often become an addiction. “Whoever sins is a slave to sin”.
But I didn’t look at pornography, masturbate or cyber. I was ABOUT to, but did not.
 
I confessed it yesterday to a Priest. By the way, the Priest advised that for the most part thoughts are not mortal sins, whether it’s anger/hatred/violent thoughts or lustful thoughts. It becomes mortal if you act on them.
The priest is wrong. Jesus said if you lust for the woman you have already committed the sin in your heart.

Your sign off line says you are not yet Catholic. Until you are received into the Church fully you may not receive the Sacrament of Reconcilation. The priest should not have heard your confession unless you were in danger of death. At least he should not have absolved you or tried to. It is not a valid confession.

Find another priest.
 
But I didn’t look at pornography, masturbate or cyber. I was ABOUT to, but did not.
We call this temptation. It is not sinful.

On the other hand you don’t need the pornography if you play the images on the screen of your mind and fantasize.
 
The priest is wrong. Jesus said if you lust for the woman you have already committed the sin in your heart.

Your sign off line says you are not yet Catholic. Until you are received into the Church fully you may not receive the Sacrament of Reconcilation. The priest should not have heard your confession unless you were in danger of death. At least he should not have absolved you or tried to. It is not a valid confession.

Find another priest.
Well, the Priest was addressing mortal vs. venial sin, not whether it is sinful or not. Also, every Priest at the parish I am going through RCIA at allows me to receive Pennance/Reconciliation.
 
Well, the Priest was addressing mortal vs. venial sin, not whether it is sinful or not. Also, every Priest at the parish I am going through RCIA at allows me to receive Pennance/Reconciliation.
Jesus said we have already committed THE sin in our hearts.

You can not receive any other sacrament of the Church until you are Catholic.

Baptism initiates you into the Church. It is the “door” to the other sacraments. Through baptism you obtain rights to the other sacraments. See CCC 1213 and 1269. Even if you were baptized as a Protestant a priest can not hear your confession and give you absolution unless you are in immediate danger of death. The sacraments of the Catholic Church are for her members. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to join.

It is not a minor issue that these preists would ignore the practices and norms of the Church in this way. It is quite serious, although they would obviously dismiss that as well. I am very sorry this happens. Please for the good of your soul find an orthodox priest who will be reliable in guiding you.

You might also ask them questions or watch to see how they teach on other matters to see if they agree with Church teaching, especially on morality. God bless you. I hope you become a saint.
 
Jesus said we have already committed THE sin in our hearts.

You can not receive any other sacrament of the Church until you are Catholic.

Baptism initiates you into the Church. It is the “door” to the other sacraments. Through baptism you obtain rights to the other sacraments. See CCC 1213 and 1269. Even if you were baptized as a Protestant a priest can not hear your confession and give you absolution unless you are in immediate danger of death. The sacraments of the Catholic Church are for her members. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to join.

It is not a minor issue that these preists would ignore the practices and norms of the Church in this way. It is quite serious, although they would obviously dismiss that as well. I am very sorry this happens. Please for the good of your soul find an orthodox priest who will be reliable in guiding you.

You might also ask them questions or watch to see how they teach on other matters to see if they agree with Church teaching, especially on morality. God bless you. I hope you become a saint.
Seeing as it is every Priest at the parish who allows me to receive Reconciliation, why should I listen to you over then? After all, are you ordained? I was validly Baptized and I am in the RCIA process.

I was on the phone a few weeks ago with an Opus Dei Priest who said that I could probably start receiving Reconciliation since I am in the RCIA process as a candidate.

This is the kind of stuff that may turn me away from Catholicism: you claim unity but you do not have it.

EDIT: So are you now trying to say that all sin is equal? Isn’t that what the Protestants say?
 
Seeing as it is every Priest at the parish who allows me to receive Reconciliation, why should I listen to you over then? After all, are you ordained? I was validly Baptized and I am in the RCIA process.
No. Please let me try again. If I entertain thoughts of having an adulterous affair with my neighbor’s wife and become enflamed with lust for her and in my mind take off her clothing and commit the act and would gladly take any opportunity to do so, this is the sin of adultery.

Let’s say I hate someone and intend to murder him. I plan it out in my mind and get in my car and drive toward the location with a gun in my pocket. On the way I get in an accident that prevents me from carrying out the act. Or I pull the trigger and the gun jams or I am a bad shot and miss the target. I am guilty of the sin of murder. The murder is in my heart.

I misunderstood your first post. You were tempted to engage in sin and look at pornography and by God’s grace you willed to not do it. This is a victory over sin. Alleluia!

Also I am very sorry to upset you. I would check into whether or not you may confess by doing some research into Church documents. In times of controversy and confusion that is the best approach.

God bless you.
 
The priest is wrong. Jesus said if you lust for the woman you have already committed the sin in your heart.

Your sign off line says you are not yet Catholic. Until you are received into the Church fully you may not receive the Sacrament of Reconcilation. The priest should not have heard your confession unless you were in danger of death. At least he should not have absolved you or tried to. It is not a valid confession.

Find another priest.
With respect, I totally disagree. That passage in no way tries to say actually committing adultery and thinking about committing adultery is the same level of evil. He is just saying that they’re both evil.

The OP’s priest didn’t deny that lustful thoughts are evil, but that they do not reach the levels of mortal sins. I suffer from the same weaknesses as the OP and have often found myself starting the deed and stopping before completion, either through grace, will, prayer, or some combination.

My priests, who are all very orthodox, all have made distinctions between thinking about the road, starting down the road and turning back, and going all the way down the road to completion.
 
Very good question and concern to have and good responses so far.

The point here is to confess what you DID actually DO. As for the rest, confess it if it’s still sin material or thoughts or desires, but don’t beat yourself up over it. Rather, be glad and rejoice that God gave you what you needed at the right moment to get out of the line of fire. When we’re ‘almost’ in mortal sin, liken it to Satan having a sniper rifle pointed at your soul. He’s got the targeting laser aimed right at your heart, to deliver a mortal wound (mortal sin). He’s got a good lock and he’s ready to fire- but at the last moment, your guardian angel pushes you out of the way and when Satan fires the gun, the bullet zips past where your body was just a moment before, and you’re safe. Realizing you’re in danger and there’s a sniper trying to kill you, you run for cover and protection (confession) and then you’re armed, armored, and safe from future attempts at your life.

I just made up that analogy right now, but I think it works well. Anyone agree? 😃
i would have to say that yes it is a good analogy…and so is the rest of your post,God bless
 
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