Is it a sin for women to wear bikinis?

[BobObob]

BobObob;6752677:

It’s good to counteract possible bias and flaws in studies by looking at the full articles, check the credibility of the sources those articles cite, and look for multiple studies from multiple authors published in multiple journals (that may risk loosing credibility if they publish errant articles).

Can you show me your research?

BTW, just because research is coming from a source that doesn’t have a religious affiliation doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bias. I’ve seen bias from both sources that have a religious affiliation and those that don’t. Possible bias must be taken into consideration in all circumstances.

Here’s more research:

dbem.ws/Exotic%20Becomes%20Erotic.pdf

(this is a theory that attempts to explain the phenomenon on sexual attraction and why homosexuality exists, but it fits in well with my hypothesis that less non-erotic exposure to the human body while growing up is likely to cuase more problems with lust and porn)

crisisconnectioninc.org/pdf/Porn.pdf (this shows that the US, one of the most puritanical cultures regarding lack of clothing, is the biggest consumer of porn)

psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy.optionToBuy&id=1933-02865-001&CFID=9249663&CFTOKEN=16651498 (This article in Psychological Review says that eroticism is NOT stimulated by nudism. I don’t advocate nudism, but this does support my hypothesis)

Again, do you have any evidence to the contrary?

Bob I think you have me mistaken for someone who respects the intelligentsia that have brought our culture and our Church to the brink of ruin.

So your not going to analytically look at research that has been done and will tacitly, with willful ignorance, hold your position that my hypothesis is false because you don’t trust article published by researchers? Did you even look at them to see what it is that they say?

None of these studies, nor the hypothesis I’m trying to defend by using them (that of a puritanical approach to the human body leading to more problems with porn and lust), are destroying the Church. Rather, they could be of good value by teaching us how we could avoid sexual sin.

Perhaps if you don’t trust these sources you could supply scholarly research to the contrary from other sources…

 

[LittleSoldier]

That’s fine.

Yes, but Costco was used as the example.

She was in Costco! I’ve never seen a woman in a bikini at 7-11!

That’s fine, but since I’m not assuming that you do, don’t feel you need to mention it to me.

Thank you for not making that assumption. Others here have.

Problem is, those of us who are saying that bikinis can be sinful and/or occasions of sin are assumed to be judging souls, when we’re merely judging actions.

I agree. You didn’t assume that I wear a bikini and for that I thank you. Please don’t assume that I don’t know the difference between saying that bikinis can be sinful, etc. and judging people. In this thread specific posters have been accused of being immodest and of lying. That is judging.

There hasn’t been a specific Church teaching on the wearing of bikinis per se, but the Church does have binding teaching on the subject of modesty, as well as a certified, error-free pronouncement on decency in dress lengths and cuts (mentioned on this thread) which, even though dated in the 1950s, is still officially without error. Taken together, these (should) carry the weight that a direct ex cathedra papal pronouncement would (meaning that it ought to be taken seriously nonetheless).

It’s my understanding that a direct ex cathedra statement is infallible. But I will check this out. Thank you for providing this. I appreciate it. I will also talk to my priest about modesty.

 

[LittleSoldier]

So your not going to analytically look at research that has been done and will tacitly, with willful ignorance, hold your position that my hypothesis is false because you don’t trust article published by researchers? Did you even look at them to see what it is that they say?

None of these studies, nor the hypothesis I’m trying to defend by using them (that of a puritanical approach to the human body leading to more problems with porn and lust), are destroying the Church. Rather, they could be of good value by teaching us how we could avoid sexual sin.

Perhaps if you don’t trust these sources you could supply scholarly research to the contrary from other sources…

Bob, I don’t think he has any references. He never did provide the ones I asked for. Thank you for providing the many references you did. I will read them.

God bless!

 

[Advocatus_Fidei]

So your not going to analytically look at research that has been done and will tacitly, with willful ignorance, hold your position that my hypothesis is false because you don’t trust article published by researchers? Did you even look at them to see what it is that they say?

None of these studies, nor the hypothesis I’m trying to defend by using them (that of a puritanical approach to the human body leading to more problems with porn and lust), are destroying the Church. Rather, they could be of good value by teaching us how we could avoid sexual sin.

Perhaps if you don’t trust these sources you could supply scholarly research to the contrary from other sources…

You place to much faith in scholarly research and not enough in revelation.

From what I glanced at they are dealing mainly with nudity in children which is not relevant at all to the issue of adult women wearing bikini’s.

Furthermore Muslim countries are much stricter when it comes to women covering their bodies yet according to your research they have lower incidents of the problems you are talking about than the US.

 

[Michael_Francis]

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