Is it a sin not to work?

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I keep seeing work touted as something sacred. It almost seems like a Catholic belief that if you don’t work, you are sinning. I’m not talking about working to pay the bills. I’m talking about just plain WORKING for its own sake. The message seems to be that if you don’t work, you are going to Hell.

What about the super rich? What about people who don’t NEED to work? Are they going to Hell? And what about people who retire early, who specifically save up enough money so they don’t have to work anymore? Are they guilty of mortal sin for avoiding work? I can’t seem to find an answer.

Pope John Paul wrote an encyclical about work: “Laborem Exercens: On Human Work.” Even here, it seems as if work MUST be done for its own sake. NOT working sounds suspiciously like a sin - unless I am completely misunderstanding this, which I might be.

On the other hand, Catholic Philosopher Josef Pieper wrote a classic book entitled: “Leisure: the Basis of Culture,” in which he argues specifically AGAINST work done simply for the sake of work. According to Piper, it is not sin not to work, but this is never stated directly.

So what’s the deal? Is it a sin not to work? Such a thing sounds absolutely ridiculous. But I just don’t know. I know plenty of people who worry about this. Please write in, but do not post anything threatening. Any posts here should be designed to take away people’s fear about this, not to add to them. I am looking for accuracy and clarity, not needless strictness.
 
I don’t think it’s a sin not to work. What occupies the time that you would otherwise spend at work or driving to and from it can be sinful. If parties, fine restaurants, vacation planning, cruises, golf, gardening, workouts, cooking is all that makes up your time, in other words if it’s all about you and your selfish gratifications/interests (did I just describe a majority of retirees?) then this life will be lots of fun in a purposeless kind of way, the next life won’t be so pleasant.
 
You shouldn’t be lazy, but that doesn’t mean you have to work until you die either.

Essentially you should work enough to be able to provide for yourself. If you are married, you must be able to provide for you family. Beyond that, it’s just a matter of giving back to God every moment He gives to you.

Hope that helps!
 
It depends for your reason not to work. And we need to work all the time, especially if its the work of God and of his Church. But we work to support our family, which is something that God expects of us if He blessed us with a family. The Church also needs our income to support it in this world.
 
Thank you for your responses. But they seem to (mostly) be opinions, not official Church teaching. I’m not trying to cut down anybody, or to be mean. I just want know if the Church officially considers it a sin not to work. There is so much confusion surrounding Catholic belief, I certainly don’t want to add to it, or to confuse anybody even more.

SOMEONE WROTE: “If parties, fine restaurants, vacation planning, cruises, golf, gardening, workouts, cooking is all that makes up your time, in other words if it’s all about you and your selfish gratifications/interests (did I just describe a majority of retirees?) then this life will be lots of fun in a purposeless kind of way, the next life won’t be so pleasant.”

This doesn’t add up at all. There are plenty of Catholic financial programs that help you PLAN for your retirement. And I very much doubt that God is going to punish you for enjoying your retirement. I just want the official POSITION of the Church on this issue. I just can’t seem to find it.

SOMEONE ELSE WROTE: “(W)e need to work all the time, especially if its the work of God and of his Church.”

Actually, Catholic Answers Apologist Jimmy Akin writes that laboring for the Church, and “good works” in general, do NOT get you into Heaven. Nor does an “insufficient” amount of “good works” keep you OUT of Heaven.

QUOTE: “(T)he thing that gets us to heaven is our receiving and remaining in God’s grace. We receive God’s grace when we turn to him and accept his offer of grace, particularly through the sacraments…Good works are a natural outgrowth of his grace working in our hearts, and he rewards us for cooperating with his grace in doing good works, but the thing that would keep us out of heaven is mortal sin, not having an insufficient number of good works.”

Jimmy Akin covers this more fully in his article, “Fear of Going to Hell,” written in response to someone worried about how many “good works” were necessary to enter Heaven. It can be read here:

jimmyakin.org/2006/01/fear_of_going_t.html

So that takes care of the “good works” argument. We don’t have to work for the Church (volunteering at Mass, volunteering at the parish soup kitchen, whatever,) to get into Heaven. Plenty of Catholics live alone, do no real “good works” to speak of, and are pretty solitary. And the Church has NEVER declared such people to be on the way to Hell.

SOMEONE WROTE: “You shouldn’t be lazy, but that doesn’t mean you have to work until you die either.”

I wonder. The way a lot of Catholics talk about work, it almost sounds like you are required to find work – ANY work, no matter what it is - or you will be in mortal sin! It doesn’t matter if the work benefits anyone or not. It just has to be WORK. This sounds suspiciously like the Protestant work ethic, to me. As long as you’re doing something difficult, then it must be worthwhile.

Catholic Philosopher Josef Pieper, in his book “Leisure, the Basis of Culture,” says the exact opposite of this:

“In a key phrase, Pieper says that “man seems to mistrust everything that is effortless; he can only enjoy, with a good conscience, what he has acquired with toil and trouble; he refuses to have anything as a gift.” Pieper quotes St. Thomas Aquinas: “The essence of virtue consists in the good rather than the difficult.””

Pieper argues, as Thomas Aquinas does, that the laziest people in the world often WORK THE HARDEST. Workaholics, who work all the time, often do so just to KILL TIME. This is really just another form of extreme LAZINESS, according to Saint Thomas Aquinas, and it constitutes a violation of the third commandment, which commands us to be able to enjoy leisure.

Saint Thomas defines Leisure itself not as idleness, but as the work of contemplation, the effortless receiving of wisdom and knowledge. Josef Pieper says in his book that laziness (acedia) is defined by the Church as an actual INABILITY TO ENJOY LEISURE. Thomas Aquinas says that people who work hard all the time are often guilty of the deadly sin of sloth (acedia), in that all they do is work. They fill up their meaningless time with endless, endless, purposeless work. If they are not toiling away at something, they feel that something must be wrong with them. Our society today seems to be mostly filled with lazy, listless workaholics, who cannot enjoy beauty or play or contemplation at all.

Pieper says:

“Like all of the seven deadly sins, acedia awaits its opportunity to seduce human beings. The noon-day demon prowls everywhere in a workaholic society that knows only work and idleness and preys upon the tired, the bored and the apathetic who lack the time, the energy and the spirit to look above, to lift their hearts, and to fall in love with life again and again in the revel of mirthful play…Leisure always liberates man from enslavement to work and releases him from the bondage to servile activities like earning money in order to contemplate the true, the good, and the beautiful."

(continued) "A jaded, listless world debilitated by work, worry and debt and indoctrinated with the ideas of the noon-day demon (“Let both man and woman work,” “Let them think they need more things,” and “Let them have no time except to eat and sleep”) needs this “surge of new life” (leisure) again and again to resist the wiles of the deadly sin of acedia.”

So according to all this, it is actually a DEADLY SIN to always have some type of work to fill up the time. The message seems to be that a world WITHOUT work would be the ideal, and no sin at all. (Leisure, as Thomas Aquinas points out, is not idleness, but the MOST EFFORTLESS, MEANINGFUL WORK IN THE WORLD - the contemplation of beauty, life and everything.)

This makes total sense, morally speaking. And I can’t find anything in all Catholic theology against it. I just wish I could find some official Church documentation that AGREES with all this. Can anyone help me here?
 
2 Thess. 3:10 “For also when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat.”

JP II “On Human Work”:
In these present reflections devoted to human work we have tried to emphasize everything that seemed essential to it, since it is through man’s labour that not only “the fruits of our activity” but also “human dignity, brotherhood and freedom” must increase on earth. Let the Christian who listens to the word of the living God, uniting work with prayer, know the place that his work has not only in earthly progress but also in the development of the Kingdom of God, to which we are all called through the power of the Holy Spirit and through the word of the Gospel.
The higher truth seen in the spirit of the law not merely the letter of it. It isn’t in requirements nor in what we are not obliged to believe. It is found not in between two opposing concepts, work or not to work, but in the elevated hierarchy of truth, in the godly work, the godly leisure, in what God calls us personally to do. On hierarchy of truths:
When comparing doctrines with one another, they should remember that in Catholic doctrine there exists a “hierarchy” of truths, since they vary in their relation to the fundamental Christian faith. Thus the way will be opened by which through fraternal rivalry all will be stirred to a deeper understanding and a clearer presentation of the unfathomable riches of Christ. UR 11
Faith seeks understanding": it is intrinsic to faith that a believer desires to know better the One in whom he has put his faith, and to understand better what He has revealed; a more penetrating knowledge will in turn call forth a greater faith, increasingly set afire by love. The grace of faith opens “the eyes of your hearts” to a lively understanding of the contents of Revelation: that is, of the totality of God’s plan and the mysteries of faith, of their connection with each other and with Christ, the center of the revealed mystery. “The same Holy Spirit constantly perfects faith by his gifts, so that Revelation may be more and more profoundly understood.” In the words of St. Augustine, “I believe, in order to understand; and I understand, the better to believe.” CCC 158
Sin to work, no. Sin not to work, no. The answer lies above these two opposing concepts where God speaks to us in our heart. Applying a rule, if there were one, would not suffice.
 
Thank you very much for clarifying this. I appreciate it more than I can say. It is often difficult to penetrate the obscurity surrounding official Church teaching. Any information in this area is good information.
 
First off, we need to define “work”. For some, work=Labor,but that is not necessarily so.

Work can be things that we do simply to occupy our time. We can do mental work. We can do physical work.

JPII writes very well on the subject of our being orientated towards work and how work is important in our lives.
 
Great comments and references.

Old Baltimore Catechism: God made us to know Him, to love Him, to SERVE Him, and to be happy with Him in Heaven forever.

Service is work.

Forget where ion the Gospels, but one woman was working hard in the kitchen while the others were paying attention to Jesus. Christ said those paying attention to Him made the better choice. But He did not say working to feed them all was a bad choice, only that paying attention to the Son of God was better.

Christ also told about the talents and how some invested it and made a profit and one hid it and made no porfit and that NOT making a profit with the MASTER’S talent entrusted to him was a sin.

Selfishness is the opposite of Love. We are called to Love, so we are called not to be selfish.

Sloth - the disinclination to work - is one of the 7 deadly sins.

God Himself worked and rested on the 7th day. We are called to be like God as best we can, so we are called to work.

Those who provide, work. Whether they give orders or carry out orders, whether it is for pay or not, they provide. Providing for the needs others is Love and Service to God.
 
YOU WROTE: “Sloth - the disinclination to work - is one of the 7 deadly sins.”

No. It’s not. Sloth is the inability to enjoy leisure, as defined by Saint Thomas Aquinas, and other medieval philosophers and theologians.

People who work all the time are often the most slothful people in the world. They usually have nothing interesting to talk about. Appreciation of beauty is foreign to them. They don’t know what to do with themselves when not working.

I actually think I ANNOY people like this. Because I’m all about leisure. I love time off from work. Any time not working is GOOD time, as far as I’m concerned. I read, I create, I invent, I learn. I can do none of these things while working.

To me, being forced work everyday just to stay alive is one great big waste of time. It is the curse of my life. I only work in order to eat and get money, and for no other reason. If it wasn’t for these necessities, I would gladly never work again a day in my life. This is only natural.

My goal in life is to get rich so I can sit on the beach all day. And why not? Isn’t that why everybody works? There’d be no point, otherwise. We work so that one day we won’t HAVE to work.

I started this forum because I noted a disturbing trend in the thinking of average Catholics: that NOT to work is some kind of a sin. This a horrifying idea to me (and, I think, to anyone.)

If relaxing and having a happy, leisurely life is a sin, then why are we even alive at all? Relaxation and leisure are the spice of life. Without them, existence is unpleasant, ugly and pointless. I could never belong to a religion that says that “not working” is a sin. As far as I can tell, the Catholic Church does not teach this. I find it disturbing that so many ordinary Catholics DO.

As one commentator on Joseph Pieper’s book “Leisure, The Basis of Culture” pointed out:

“Sloth isn’t merely laziness; in fact, it’s not clear that sloth is laziness at all. Sloth, as commentators from the desert fathers in the first centuries of the Christian era to psychologists and philosophers today maintain, is a form of despair, the inability to feel joy or gratitude. Sloth can lead to a dispirited lack of energy that leads to behavior frequently thought of as lazy. But laziness connotes a relaxed internal state that the person suffering from sloth simply doesn’t enjoy. Neither is sloth leisured, non-busy time. The latter is an opportunity, as Aristotle noted, for enrichment. The former is always a state of alienation and interior impoverishment.”

“Sloth,” Thomas Aquinas says, is characterized by an internal restlessness and despair. Such restlessness and despair usually drive people to work constantly, to try to fill themselves up with restless, despair-driven activity. They can’t enjoy leisure, so they work, work, work, basically for nothing. They never achieve anything meaningful. They work for the sake of working. This is the very ESSANCE of sloth.

How gratifying to learn that despair-driven workaholics are actually the ones guilty of sloth. How satisfying to learn that little old me, sitting at home reading all day, am actually engaging in true leisure, the most meaningful work of the soul, and am becoming an enlightened person. What a joy not to have to worry about “work.”

I am proud to be Catholic for this one teaching alone.
 
I thought that sloth was similar to be lazy to be honest at least from the definition below:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloth_%28deadly_sin%29

I would say retirees who find some way to keep themselves busy with something like gardening, yard work, canning food, performing some corporal works of mercy etc are not committing that deadly sin. I am sure the same can be said about those who must still work for a living, and have not yet attained retirement age and do something outside the work place.

I would say it is a sin for an adult who is able bodied to not find some kind of work to do no matter if its the normal household chores at home for those who do not work outside the home for any reason, volunteer work, and/or some type of paid work. Adults who are ill and/or injured or are caring for a family member who cannot care for themselves, the rule does not apply to them.
 
I don’t think it’s a sin not to work. What occupies the time that you would otherwise spend at work or driving to and from it can be sinful.** If parties, fine restaurants, vacation planning, cruises, golf, gardening, workouts, cooking is all that makes up your time, in other words if it’s all about you and your selfish gratifications/interests (did I just describe a majority of retirees?) then this life will be lots of fun in a purposeless kind of way, the next life won’t be so pleasant**.
Seriously? What is wrong with enjoying some life? Many people work and work and work and can finally retire (if they are lucky). Are they not able to enjoy some of their time by dining out, taking vacations, doing what they enjoy? By doing what they enjoy, they often are able to appreciate what God has given them.

Believe me, there is often a purpose in gardening, cooking, and vacationing, as well as in other activities.

What do you think people should be doing if they are not working - on their knees in prayer 24/7? Prayer can occur in many formats - including gardening, golfing, fishing, and cruising!
 
@Joseph Kemp
work = good
rest = good

It’s the intent/ends of what is behind these two ideas that matters. Work is good if it is directed towards a good end and done with good intent. The same applies for rest. This is pretty much the same thing as what Earnest Bunbury said. The whole point is to ask yourself why you want to rest and to think about what you are spending that time doing.
If relaxing and having a happy, leisurely life is a sin, then why are we even alive at all? Relaxation and leisure are the spice of life. Without them, existence is unpleasant, ugly and pointless. I could never belong to a religion that says that “not working” is a sin. As far as I can tell, the Catholic Church does not teach this. I find it disturbing that so many ordinary Catholics DO.
This quote worries me though. We are alive to serve God. Period. You won’t find happiness sitting on a beach all day after you retire. You also say that relaxation and leisure are the spice of life and without these our existence would be unpleasant, ugly, and pointless. I believe you are right when you say it might be unpleasant. However saying that it would be ugly or pointless is disgusting. What then is the life of people like Mother Teresa? I believe she would have even said her life was very pleasing and she gained great enjoyment from it that far surpasses the enjoyment we find in life. If you are looking for happiness look to the lives of the saints. I’m not saying having fun, golfing, and cruises are bad, just think about why you are doing it. If you doing it for the sake of pleasure itself, you are probably on the wrong course. The excess of leisure would be considered gluttony not sloth btw.

If life was all about gaining pleasure, then what the heck was Jesus doing?
 
YOU WROTE: “This quote worries me though. We are alive to serve God. Period.”

No. We are alive to enjoy leisure. That is service enough. If you disagree, I suggest you read “Leisure, the Basis of Culture,” by Catholic philosopher Joseph Pieper. It should lay this “work” question to rest once and for all. It can be read online, here:

scribd.com/doc/28873477/Leisure-the-Basis-of-Culture

There is something deeply wrong with this bizarre insistence that we must “always be working for God” - as if we must always be toiling to exhaustion in order to get into Heaven. This is an utterly ridiculous view. It is not taught by the Roman Catholic Church. You will never find anything in all official Catholic Doctrine to back it up.

YOU WROTE: “You won’t find happiness sitting on a beach all day after you retire.”

Oh yes, you will.

YOU WROTE: “I’m not saying having fun, golfing, and cruises are bad, just think about why you are doing it. If you doing it for the sake of pleasure itself, you are probably on the wrong course.”

This is a very strange statement. Nobody has “fun, golfing and cruises” EXCEPT for the sake of “pleasure itself.” Saying otherwise is merely an attempt to create useless guilt in people for absolutely nothing.

The very idea that people should avoid “pleasure” just so they can be miserable by “toiling in the service of God” is ridiculous. It is a non-Catholic teaching. We are NOT to seek out suffering for the sake of suffering. We are NOT to work just so we can “look busy” for the sake of God. This is a heretical teaching. It is evil. The Catholic Church does not support it. Nowhere in all official Catholic teaching does there exist anything to corroborate such an absurd position.

YOU WROTE: “The excess of leisure would be considered gluttony not sloth btw.”

How do you measure “an excess of leisure?” Not with a slide-ruler and a compass, surely. The statement, in fact, is nonsense. Leisure cannot be measured.

Telling people they should be measuring something that cannot be measured is a good way to create a bad conscience in people. Instead of worrying about ACTUAL mortal sins (like committing adultery, or committing murder), people worry about useless, non-sinful things like “an excess of leisure.” I cannot express my sadness when I see my fellow Catholics engaging in such worthless madness.

Just to be clear: The Roman Catholic Church does NOT officially teach that “wasting time” is sinful. The Roman Catholic Church does NOT officially teach that living a life of leisure is sinful. Quite the opposite. Joseph Pieper’s book makes clear that the Roman Catholic Church teaches that a life of leisure is the Catholic ideal. If you has not read “Leisure, the Basis of Culture,” it would be a good idea to. It will remove many of the misconceptions in this area.

Also, good works do not get you into Heaven. God’s Grace does. Catholic Apologist Jimmy Akin writes:

““(T)he thing that gets us to heaven is our receiving and remaining in God’s grace. We receive God’s grace when we turn to him and accept his offer of grace, particularly through the sacraments…Good works are a natural outgrowth of his grace working in our hearts, and he rewards us for cooperating with his grace in doing good works, but the thing that would keep us out of heaven is mortal sin, not having an insufficient number of good works.”

(This is standard Catholic teaching, incidentally. I am always saddened by how many Catholics seem unaware of it. It’s a comforting teaching.)

Jimmy Akin covers this more fully in his article, “Fear of Going to Hell,” written in response to someone else worried about how many “good works” were necessary to enter Heaven. It can be read here:

jimmyakin.org/2006/01/fear_of_going_t.html

Too many Catholics are under the bizarre impression that we are somehow to “work our way into Heaven.” This is absolutely false. Roman Catholicism does not teach this at all. God does not add up every little good work we do, like some kind of cosmic bean counter.

As Mother Theresa once said:

“I am not sure exactly what heaven will be like, but I know that when we die and it comes time for God to judge us, he will not ask, ‘How many good things have you done in your life?’ rather he will ask, 'How much love did you put into what you did?”

Mother Theresa also said: “It’s not how much we give but how much love we put into giving.”

In short, the idea that we must be constantly “working for God” (as in some exhausting toil) in order to get into Heaven is completely baseless. Nobody should worry about this. It is a totally imaginary belief, and is COMPLETELY non-Catholic. Good works arise whenever they arise, and at no other time. They happen when they happen, and cannot be forced. God moves the heart and mind when He chooses to do so. To claim otherwise would simply be false. Such a view is not from God, but from the Devil.

I cannot believe how many false and misleading beliefs about the Catholic Church exist among ordinary Catholics. Such false beliefs are virtually endless. They cause extraordinary trouble and needless guilt for absolutely nothing. Too often it is NOT atheists or Protestants that I have difficulties with. It is with the false beliefs of other Catholics. Beliefs from people who SHOULD know what their Church officially teaches, but who often do not. This is a very great tragedy.
 
So what’s the deal? Is it a sin not to work? Such a thing sounds absolutely ridiculous.
Yes. It does sound ridiculous in view of two groups that come to mind i.e. the unemployed and retirees. It would be tragic to deem the former as “sinning” through no fault of theirs and where the latter had already completed their task. I reckon, the real peril is in idleness…devil’s workshop and all that.
 
If you are called to a contemplative lifestyle,perhaps one could imitate some saints of the Church and lock themselves in a cell for the rest of their life and pray,or live in a cave,or in a hut on a mountain,or as other saints have done,live on a pillar their whole life,or kneel on a rock and pray for a thousand days and nights as St Seraphim of Sarov.

Or if you live in society ,you may perform duties as a surgeon or doctor or school teacher or law enforcment officer,

performing these duties or work for society is beneficial for others and cant be compared to performing sins which do harm for ourselves ,others and society,

Monks may perform duties of gardening or weaving or painting and do not recieve personal payment,the fruits of their duties in the garden may give them food and vegetables to eat,their paintings will give others icons and images of God to pray to and for people to have in their homes.

The fruits of work and duties are many,

If one wants to contemplate or pray their whole life ,some people have become saints by doing so,everybodys life and circumstance is different.
 
Ignoring God’s will, whatever that is, is sinful. There can be no single answer, since people are called differently.

It must be admitted that God understands the necessity of leisure time. His law enforces a day of rest each week. Taking time away from work, however, does not mean taking time away from God.

We are called to spend every minute of every day in obedient and loving service to our Lord. If we are honestly listening to God, seeking to know what He wants us to be doing and doing that, the question of leisure is moot.

The Church has long insisted that both work and leisure are important to the spiritual life of her children. I do not understand the assertion that either can be neglected- either from a spiritual or from a psychological perspective.

For some the work of their life is not labor. Writers write, and farmers might consider that leisure. Artists create, and carpenters might consider that leisure. I did not read your recommended reading, but it is easy to see in history that societies which had no class of people who did not need to labor to eat rarely produce great works- which are rightly cherished by history and the Church.

Each of us is called to use our talents to God’s purpose. If your own pleasure is prioritized above God’s call, it does not matter what you are doing or not doing. Almost anything can become an idol. Art, obviously. Work likewise. These things are good, so long as they are kept subject to God.

“I mean not your own conscience, but the other’s. For why should my freedom be determined by someone else’s conscience? If I partake thankfully, why am I reviled for that over which I give thanks? So whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything for the glory of God.” 1 Corinthians 10:29-31
 
I highly recommend that everyone on this thread read Joseph Pieper’s classic book, “Leisure, The Basis of Culture.” It will clear up all of these issues about “work.”

A life of leisure is not sinful at all. It is the ideal life in the Roman Catholic understanding. I can’t understand why anyone would EVER want to argue otherwise. Such views likely arise from bad reasoning about Roman Catholic theology. Or perhaps, as Joseph Pieper writes, they also arise from the Protestant work ethic. Either way, they are unsupportable and wrong.

I began this thread simply because I could find no official Catholic documentation stating that not working was a “sin.” After speaking with several bishops and priests, I have been made to understand that such documentation does not exist.

One bishop I talked to told me: “You are the Captain of your life. No one has any right to tell you how you should be spending your time. You are not to submit your conscience to anyone else’s judgment, as if that person could make your life’s choices for you. Pope John Paul II warned against such action. It is morally dangerous, and can hurt you very badly.”

It seems he was right.

Many people say that not working is slothful. They say SLOTH is a sin. But sloth doesn’t actually refer to not working. It doesn’t even refer to laziness. Sloth refers to AN INABILITY TO ENJOY LEISURE. That is how Saint Thomas Aquinas defined it, as Joseph Pieper points out in “Leisure, The Basis of Culture.” The term used is ACEDIA – “the inability to be at rest and to enjoy that which is effortless. “ That is also how the Catholic Church defines sloth. Often the people who work the hardest are the most slothful people of all. The basis of any culture – and of religion itself – MUST be leisure. There is absolutely no way around this.

Also, I often see many Catholics worrying that they haven’t done enough “good works” to get into Heaven. They think they can somehow “earn” their salvation by working even harder at it. This is a ridiculous.

Good works do not get you into Heaven. God’s Grace does. This is a basic teaching of the Church. Anyone who believes otherwise should read apologist Jimmy Akin’s article “Fear of Going to Hell,” quoted in my posts above. It settles the issue very elegantly.

jimmyakin.org/2006/01/fear_of_going_t.html

If you receive the sacraments faithfully, you are going to Heaven. If you don’t commit mortal sin, you are going to Heaven. End of story. Why anyone would think anything extra is required is beyond me. This mad scramble to do “good works” to get into Heaven is based on a bad understanding of Catholic theology. Good works arise when they arise. They are NOT in and of themselves necessary for salvation.

If you feel moved to devote yourself to others like Mother Theresa did, that’s fine. But if the rest of us aren’t moved that way, that’s fine too. Catholicism is a religion of peace and comfort. And constantly wondering whether you’ve done enough “good works” to get into Heaven is not peaceful or comforting at all. It is tortuous and life-destroying. It is terrifying for absolutely nothing. It is based on a deeply twisted misunderstanding of what good works even are. And it has motivated plenty of Protestants over the years to reject Catholicism as the “work of Satan,” and motivated plenty of atheists to reject Catholicism as “evil.”

It’s not hard to see why.

If such misunderstandings of basic Catholic Doctrine are not corrected, they do unbelievable damage, both to individuals and to society. I have noticed evidence of this same misunderstanding about “good works” in several of the posts from other people on this thread.

This is very sad to see.
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Again, a life of leisure is not a sin.

Here is a link to “Leisure, The Basis of Culture” on Amazon:

amazon.com/Leisure-Basis-Culture-Josef-Pieper/dp/1890318353

And here is a review of the “Leisure” by the New York Times Book Review:

“One of the most important philosophy titles published in the twentieth century, Josef Pieper’s “Leisure, the Basis of Culture” is more significant, even more crucial, today than it was when it first appeared more than fifty years ago.

Pieper points out that religion can be born only in leisure – a leisure that allows time for the contemplation of the nature of God. Leisure has been, and always will be, the first foundation of any culture. He maintains that our bourgeois world of total labor has vanquished leisure, and issues a startling warning: Unless we regain the art of silence and insight, the ability for non-activity, unless we substitute true leisure for our hectic amusements, we will destroy our culture – and ourselves.

“Pieper’s message for us is plain. . . . The idolatry of the machine, the worship of mindless know-how, the infantile cult of youth and the common mind – all this points to our peculiar leadership in the drift toward the slave society. . . . Pieper’s profound insights are impressive and even formidable.” – New York Times Book Review”
 
If you can sincerely say you gave your whole mind, body, soul, all your strength in love for God and others, no sin.

If you’re pursuing leisure because it feels good, makes you comfortable, because you can afford it, because you want to, because you’re lazy…then it’s likely a sin.

We need to be squeezed out at the end of every day and at the end of our life like a lemon.

God gave us gifts to develop and give back more.

The Gospel is full of parables about living a strenuously generous life for others, producing fruit, yielding value, etc.

fwiw…the physical and mental work of Catholic contemplatives would break most of us.
 
It is not a matter of “feeling moved” one way or another. It is a matter of listening to God and following His commands. Far be it from me to try and judge what you or anyone else is called to.

‘Work’ means different things. Leisure too requires context. The Church does not, that I am aware of, say that one of these is superior to the other- especially if you refuse to define one or the other. One might say that certain religious live lives of leisure. Jesus was a carpenter, but he kept the Sabbath- He did not work on the Sabbath.

What can be said, with certainty and without attempting to define your terms, is that a selfish life is sinful. If you put your own desires before the needs of your neighbors, that is sinful. If you put your own desires above God’s will for your life, that is sinful. Anything, whether it is good, bad or indifferent, that you place above God becomes an idol.

Your initial question evades the nature of sin by asking about an action that in and of itself has no moral import. Work can be good, bad or indifferent. Your question about the necessity of work, is similar to the question commonly debated regarding the roles of grace and works. That is a question for which has been answered by the Church, clearly. Works do not get you into Heaven. However, you are fooling yourself if you think you can follow the Lord without caring for His people.

Hard to argue with scripture:
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’ Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’ He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’ And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Matthew 25:41-46
The works do not get you into Heaven, but if you love the Lord, you do what he asks of you. That means different things to different people- we each have a unique calling. The question of work as necessity, or grace vs. works, are both subject to the greater question: who informs your conscience? God or you? Who leads your life? Is the path you have chosen the path that God wants for you?
 
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