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jkiernan56
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I’m not sure about the others - but the J in my name is my first name abbreviation.
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That_one_guy
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warpspeedpetey
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there is a huge difference between being drunk, or tipsy and being stoned.
the difference between tipsy and drunk is, for most people a matter of just a couple of drinks.
the difference for most people between a pleasant high, and a drunk like state is a whole lot of pot
you can do almost anything with a pleasant high, you cant even drive after a few drinks
when i asked my confessor recently, he said that it was a matter of your inhibitions to sin being lowered, if you made bad moral decisions as a result than it was a sin.
if thats the case than alcohol is far worse, when drinking you may fight, you may get sick, you may crash your car,you may wake up next to an ugly woman that you aint married to.
if you smoke pot you may eat all of your friends oreos
the practical difference between the two is massive
and only the anti-marijuana media since the thirties thinks otherwise.
i know very few people who have smoked pot more than a couple times who think it is nearly as bad as alchohol.
the difference between tipsy and drunk is, for most people a matter of just a couple of drinks.
the difference for most people between a pleasant high, and a drunk like state is a whole lot of pot
you can do almost anything with a pleasant high, you cant even drive after a few drinks
when i asked my confessor recently, he said that it was a matter of your inhibitions to sin being lowered, if you made bad moral decisions as a result than it was a sin.
if thats the case than alcohol is far worse, when drinking you may fight, you may get sick, you may crash your car,you may wake up next to an ugly woman that you aint married to.
if you smoke pot you may eat all of your friends oreos
the practical difference between the two is massive
and only the anti-marijuana media since the thirties thinks otherwise.
i know very few people who have smoked pot more than a couple times who think it is nearly as bad as alchohol.
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CatsAndDogs
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I guess being paranoid isn’t dependent on tokin’ da ganja, eh mahn?
<chuckle, chuckle, chuckle, chuckle, chuckle!>
…hey, gimme dat twinkie!
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jkiernan56
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I have found the comments posted in this thread very interestng.
My take on it from gleaming the postings is that everything God created is good. How and why it is used is what makes an action sinful - not the object itself that is used. The object in this discussion just happens to be wacky tobaccy.
My take on it from gleaming the postings is that everything God created is good. How and why it is used is what makes an action sinful - not the object itself that is used. The object in this discussion just happens to be wacky tobaccy.
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jkiernan56
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Eh mon, its all good mon … LOL
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That_one_guy
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So, put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.
But, it’s still against the law.And that makes it a willful action.Which, makes it a sin.
Of course, you could always move to a state where it is considered a misdemeanor, or even available for medical purposes.
I haven’t smoked pot for almost 10 years.I don’t really miss it.
And I don’t care if others use it for whatever reasons.It is no longer my problem.And I’m not a priest, so it’s not my place to say good or bad.
I will say this, however,…When I used to smoke,it was more likely that I would be careful when I was driving, because I knew I was stoned.But,if I was drunk…I didn’t care.It was,like,…
YEE-HAW!!!PEDAL TO THE METAL,MAN!!!
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jkiernan56
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I’m not so sure about that its a sin because its against the law.
We both know that the law is not always right. Take for example, the law to legalize abortion. Its not a sin if a person has an abortion because its legal? If that is not true, then what about the converse position - if it’s illegal, its a sin. I’m not so sure that is true either.
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warpspeedpetey
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…hold on…let me clean out my bowl bra…
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That_one_guy
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I make a distinction between the two.Which probably sounds contradictory.
One is merely harming yourself and jeopardizing your police record.
The other is the imposition of a heinous abomination upon an unsuspecting and misinformed public, designed to murder unborn children under the guise of free-choice.
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fbl9
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fbl9=dude…i didn’t try to quote anyone else but it seems like things are working again…maybe…
the best arguement against smoking in moderation i heard was one can drink one drink not to feel the effects but beacuse it is refreshing,one smokes up to get high,smoking up is not enjoyable in terms of the flesh only…like taste i never heard any one say they smoke because they like how it tastes…
yeah i know this doesn’t really make much of an agruement for or against,got thoughts stuck in my mind but putting them down is a totally different thing.
the best arguement against smoking in moderation i heard was one can drink one drink not to feel the effects but beacuse it is refreshing,one smokes up to get high,smoking up is not enjoyable in terms of the flesh only…like taste i never heard any one say they smoke because they like how it tastes…
yeah i know this doesn’t really make much of an agruement for or against,got thoughts stuck in my mind but putting them down is a totally different thing.
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jkiernan56
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“Jesus called the crowd to him and said, ‘Listen and understand. What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him unclean, but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him unclean.’ Then the disciples came to him and asked, ‘Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?’ He replied, ‘Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots.’” Matthew 15:10-13
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That_one_guy
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If I was stoned I could see how putting it into the mouth and plucking it up by the roots would be a secret referance to pot…
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savedsinner
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The bible commands us to obey the laws of the land.
You can take a drink of alcohol and not be drunk, you can not take a hit of marijuana and not be stoned.
You can take a drink of alcohol and not be drunk, you can not take a hit of marijuana and not be stoned.
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That_one_guy
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I concur.
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edwest2
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That_one_guy
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As I said before, I don’t smoke the buddha anymore.
But,we would compare the flavors of the various strains.And I can see where in the future when it is legalized(God help us!)that there will be pot tasting get together in the same fashion as wine tasting.
I’m not condoning its use.I’m just saying that I believe it will be legal.
…sign of the times and all that…
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jkiernan56
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I wasn’t trying to say that Jesus infered marijuana as a plant in the scripture passage I quoted. I was trying to show Christ indicated that sin is something within that comes out of us, not something that comes into us from the outside. He was not a “legalist” and in fact took the Pharisees to the woodshed for being overly legalistic and for not understanding the intent and spirit of the law.If I was stoned I could see how putting it into the mouth and plucking it up by the roots would be a secret referance to pot…
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warpspeedpetey
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sorry ed, but i need some evidence it is harmful.
maybe in the same way as cigarettes, but thats it, and alchohol is harmful to in its own way as to its legality, that changes by time and place
as to the idea th at you can take 1 drink and not be drunk, but you cant take 1 toke and not be high.
thats nonsense, you dont go from being not drunk, to drunk at some predetermined limit, its a continuum, same way with pot.
further let me say that there is a huge difference between drunk, and high
they had pot long ago, in fact they dug up a grave the other day where some chinese guy had been buried with his stash, 2700 years ago.
scripture says not to be a drunkard, it says nothing about pot, yet they knew of it, its a weed that grows everywhere in the world.
why?
i have to assume it is because pot is harmless in moderation, much less dangerous then alchohol.
in fact the only thing harmful is smoking it, eating it would not be.
bottom line, we made the wrong substance legal
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