Is it a sin or sinful to smoke marijuana?

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Benedict108 said:
For those of you who think this drug is quite harmless, let it be known that it has harmful side effects and you are free to check the information for yourself, as drug trends are included on the actual site. There is no need for me to state the Church’s position, as it has been stated on the thread many times.

Pax.
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I agree with you, and I know what you are saying is true. I had it told to me by a very successful brain Surgeon. It shows on brain scans now. And it fries the brain cells. He told me God only knows what that does to our Children to come in the future. Its passed on, He said it is going to take more studys but it will indeed be proven,
 
jkiernan56 said:
Benedict, I thank you for your contribution. I will be looking into the information that you provided. In the meantime, CHEERS and BOTTOMS UP? What is your alcohol of choice??? . In fact, were you having an alcoholic beverage as you wrote your posting to this thread???.. I have been around a lot of religious, and trust me, they could outdrink any Irishman … LOL
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I know what you are saying. I do not disagree with you. But please do not think that because we do not agree with you, we are making a judgement on you. We are making it on the drug.

To drink alcohol and not abuse it does not seem to hurt a person near as bad. Alcohol has been around for a lot longer. People who have drank socially have lived great healthy lives. Some to 100. But to have a drink or so, is completely different from getting stoned. I understand I am making you angry but I do not mean to, I am just telling the truth.

Is it a sin to be a drunk, and get drunk, yes, Is it worse to get drunk or get stoned. No they are both a sin. If that is your point then yes, as the Pope says anything in excess is a sin, Even food.
 
jkiernan56 said:
A spiked Pepsi? LOL … a little noggin in your egg? LOL
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LOL!!!😛 Eggnog would be nice, but I can’t have it…LOL!😦 Conflicts with my medication. No alcohol for me, but I do remember the taste very faintly.
 
Benedict108 said:
LOL!!!😛 Eggnog would be nice, but I can’t have it…LOL!😦 Conflicts with my medication. No alcohol for me, but I do remember the taste very faintly.
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Hey, if you know the real Jesus, then you also know the humanity of Jesus … and understand more about the wedding of Cana … it was real wine … not a fake … and in fact the guests commented on the quality of the wine … now honestly, would Christ lead others into sin or put occasions of sin in front of others?
 
jkiernan56 said:
Hey, if you know the real Jesus, then you also know the humanity of Jesus … and understand more about the wedding of Cana … it was real wine … not a fake … and in fact the guests commented on the quality of the wine … now honestly, would Christ lead others into sin or put occasions of sin in front of others?
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Why are you asking me about the wine at Cana? I know it was real wine. He changed it at the request of his Blessed Mother.
 
Benedict108 said:
Why are you asking me about the wine at Cana? I know it was real wine. He changed it at the request of his Blessed Mother.
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The reason I bring it up is because alcohol (which is a drug in liquid form) was condoned by Jesus. I think it has bearing on this topic.
 
jkiernan56 said:
The reason I bring it up is because alcohol (which is a drug in liquid form) was condoned by Jesus. I think it has bearing on this topic.
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The teaching from the Catechism have been discussed already. Please do not make me go pulling out books this late at night…LOL! It is past 11pm in Singapore.
 
Benedict108 said:
The teaching from the Catechism have been discussed already. Please do not make me go pulling out books this late at night…LOL! It is past 11pm in Singapore.
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We can pick up this conversation a little later … after you’ve had some sleep … I think it will be very enjoyable … peace
 
jkiernan56 said:
The reason I bring it up is because alcohol (which is a drug in liquid form) was condoned by Jesus. I think it has bearing on this topic.
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Who is saying alcohol is a sin? I thought we were talking about getting stoned. Jesus explained quite well as long as you are not a glutton a nip or so is fine. Its really in the scripture. Do you not think Jesus knew this, why do you think he said Alcohol. Wine has never changed over the years. Except I am sure Jesus had the good stuff:D
 
rinnie said:
Yes And I believe you. Father just talked about them on ewtn just this week they are called cults.

To do drugs other then from a Dr is a sin. That is the answer according to the CCC.

And how can me telling what the Church teaches have no bearing on reality. Are you saying the church does not exist?
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Wow, then you and your priest don’t know what you’re talking about.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari
I know, I know, wikipedia bad!
Read a little bit about what you’re calling a cult, before you actually condemn it, tho from the way you speak of the effects of marijuana, you seem to me to make lots of judgments without any information. As has been pointed out, the CCC does not say smoking marijuana is a sin, as there is plenty of leg room for the argument against that to be made. Also, your apparent lack of acceptance that alcohol is not a drug further demonstrates how far from reality you’ve strayed on this topic. Alcohol is a mind altering substance not prescribed by the doctor, with no medicinal value whatsoever, but for you, that’s just dandy, because it’s legal. You seem to be hinging on the legality (or illegality) of marijuana to form your opinion. Please remember, marijuana is not illegal in many countries.
 
rinnie said:
Who is saying alcohol is a sin? I thought we were talking about getting stoned. Jesus explained quite well as long as you are not a glutton a nip or so is fine. Its really in the scripture. Do you not think Jesus knew this, why do you think he said Alcohol. Wine has never changed over the years. Except I am sure Jesus had the good stuff:D
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That’s the thing, he didn’t say alcohol, he said wine. Probably because both lead to much trouble (violence, promiscuity) both then, and most certainly, with the advent of cars, now.
 
Benedict108 said:
For those of you who think this drug is quite harmless, let it be known that it has harmful side effects and you are free to check the information for yourself, as drug trends are included on the actual site. There is no need for me to state the Church’s position, as it has been stated on the thread many times.

Pax.
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Why don’t we look into the harmful side effects of eating cheeseburgers, smoking cigarettes, or drinking alcohol, all of which are legal and kill a ridiculous amount more people every year than marijuana does.
 
alongexpectedpa said:
Why don’t we look into the harmful side effects of eating cheeseburgers, smoking cigarettes, or drinking alcohol, all of which are legal and kill a ridiculous amount more people every year than marijuana does.
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But i totally remember seeing a picture of Jesus smoking a cig with a brewski after chomping down his cow sandwich. Those are all just fine!
 
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jkiernan56 said:
For those who want to respond by saying that it is sinful because it is illegal (in most places in the US) and therefor breaking the law makes it sinful, please don’t go there. It does not hold water with me that breaking the law is always a sinful act.
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No, it is not always a sinful act, but when it is a law which is not contrary to the teachings of the Church, it is a sinful act to undermine the legitimate legislation.
You and I know that the law is not always right in this country - taking for example legalizion of abortion.
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Abortion is murder and against the law of the Church. Marijuana use is a completely different matter. The Church does not obligate you to break the law on marijuana use in the same way that she obligates you to fight the law on abortion.
Taking the converse, just because the law says something is illegal today (in most States) does make it sinful in my opinion.
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The use of marijuana itself may or may not be moral, but purchasing and using it illegally certainly is.
 
alongexpectedpa said:
Why don’t we look into the harmful side effects of eating cheeseburgers, smoking cigarettes, or drinking alcohol, all of which are legal and kill a ridiculous amount more people every year than marijuana does.
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You seem unable, as many people are on this thread, to distinguish between what is legally permissible and what is morally OK. Many things are legal which are harmful - doesn’t make them morally permissible to do when you are aware of the harms. And the issue of whether marijuana should be legal or not is largely tangential.

If you’re doing any of the above to the extent that it’s harming your physical and mental health to the same extent marijuana does, and with as little benefit as marijuana has, then by all means cease and desist. Doctors have been telling us to do so for ages.
 
alongexpectedpa said:
Why don’t we look into the harmful side effects of eating cheeseburgers, smoking cigarettes, or drinking alcohol, all of which are legal and kill a ridiculous amount more people every year than marijuana does.
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Well, If you would not smoke the pot, you would not be so thirsty, then you would not drink so much, and you would not be so hungry so you would not eat so many cheeseburgers. And then you would not have to smoke the cigs to lose weight from eating so many cheeseburgers. So see problem solved. (sorry I could not resist)😃
 
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