Is it a sin to call a girl hot?

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Chancellare said:
I’m not against cultural diversity but this is like telling D-d and M-m that I respect them too much to spell their names properly.
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If they were the ones who first said “Let there be Light” they might deserve such respect.

If we had never exercised Free Will in opposition to God in the Garden we would be vegetarians since the first Blessing gave us only the fruits of the trees and other plants to eat.
29Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
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I was impressed that my friend, in his search for God tried to strip away all of those later concessions (other foods, divorce…) to Man, had himself become a vegetarian in an effort worship I AM in they way he thought we were originally intended to.

Like I said, for me it is a personal thing for personal reasons. Sorry to have upset anyone or to have hijacked the thread.
 
Of itself not, but the intent may make it sinful, I suppose. We will agree that seduction aimed at landing the girl in bed is sinful, so calling her hot if a part of that, would be sinful. Otherwise I guess it depends on what you’re conveying. There’s a reason it’s “hot” and not “pretty”. Then again, saying she’s attractive isn’t probably sinful in some pretty straightforward circumstances without an ulterior motive. Perhaps a hint of objectification? As in, “wow, what a great body?” and what about mind, soul, whatever. Eh. I don’t think I like such speculations. 😉
 
st_lucy said:
I disagree with this because “hot” is a slang word for beautiful. We can not judge our children for using slang when we did the same as children. We must remember that we cannot judge what is in some else’s heart.
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Yeah, that’s the problem - we don’t know what’s in the heart… or mind even. But I don’t think “hot” is normally for beautiful. More like, “strongly sexually attractive,” which is different. “Hot” may be more objectifying than traditional denominators like “pretty”, “beautiful” etc.
JezuUfamTobie said:
Yet honestly, it seems to me that if a bunch of guys are standing around evaluating a girl’s “level” of physical attractiveness in a utilitarian manner, that activity doesn’t become pure just by substituting a less overtly sexual synonym.
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Correct. Sometimes I will admit attraction and speak about attractiveness rather than beauty alone, if that’s the case, though I prefer to make sure the girl will be able to handle it (temptation and all) or feel bad about it (risk of objectification). And sometimes it’s probably still bad anyway. :S
Cari said:
As an aside, speaking as a woman here, not a theologian, I’d beg the person using the word “hot” to pick up a thesaurus and find another word. “Hot” just smacks of drunken spring-breakers.
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As a man, I’d rather be called “dashing” or “handsome” or just “attractive”, as well.
 
st_lucy said:
When I hear a person use the term “hot” in this fashion I am not getting the feeling that the he or she is using it in a sexual manner but rather in a factual manner, through their own eyes anyhow.
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Maybe not always “sexual” per se, but in my experience it does reveal an attitude of utilitarianism toward one’s fellow human beings. I have never heard the word “hot” used as a respectful expression of appreciation for beauty, by males or females. The implication always seems to be, "Wouldn’t you like to have/touch/be close to that?

Obviously I can’t read anybody’s mind, but when I’m out with a group of ladies and they start the whole “Which guy in this restaurant is the hottest?” Or “Which movie star has the cutest butt,” thing, I don’t find it very charitable and I try to steer the conversation elsewhere.
 
I was so curious about hearing more that I started a thread about this in the non Catholic religion section. Will you please come and explain your philosophy about this?

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=2172891#post2172891
Verisimilitude said:
If they were the ones who first said “Let there be Light” they might deserve such respect.

If we had never exercised Free Will in opposition to God in the Garden we would be vegetarians since the first Blessing gave us only the fruits of the trees and other plants to eat.

I was impressed that my friend, in his search for God tried to strip away all of those later concessions (other foods, divorce…) to Man, had himself become a vegetarian in an effort worship I AM in they way he thought we were originally intended to.

Like I said, for me it is a personal thing for personal reasons. Sorry to have upset anyone or to have hijacked the thread.
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I think it depends on the thoughts that are behind it. Sometimes calling a girl hot means that the person is fantasizing about her. I personally don’t like the words “hot” or “sexy.”

When I think a girl is pretty, I’ll say just that. Yes, I know I belong in the 1950’s. 😛
 
Out of curiousity, I went to www.urbandictionary.com to see what the general population meant by “hot”. Since the entry revolved around sex and sexual responses, I won’t post it here, but if you’re interested, here’s the link:

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hot

To be fair, the concept of beauty did make an appearence, but not a big one. The general line of thinking was:
  1. A sexual response makes one feel “hot”
  2. one who arouses a sexual response in another is then also termed “hot”
Anyway, it doesn’t change my previous stance, but it does throw some fuel on the fire of, “Can an individual change the meaning of a word by sheer will?” That is to say, just because I personally don’t mean anything sexual by using the word “hot”, does it empty the word of that baggage?

Sorry, it’s the English major in me coming out again.
 
It depends on the motivation. If it is to express a lustful judgement, then you are not really treating this woman as a person, but as a sex object. Unfortunately women (on this Catholics and secular feminists would agree) are often treated in our culture like meat to be used and consumed in various ways, rather than as people.

It is not wrong to call a girl who is beautiful, in either looks or inner spirit beautiful, beautiful, and one should praise women who are noble in a way fitting to their grace and nobility.
 
It depends…if you’re appreciating their beauty without coveting them or committing thought adultury, then it’s fine. It’s just slang. If your thought is “corrupted,” then it’s a sin.
 
holly_potter said:
It depends…if you’re appreciating their beauty without coveting them or committing thought adultury, then it’s fine. It’s just slang. If your thought is “corrupted,” then it’s a sin.
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But what if the woman in question overhears the word “hot” applied to her, and takes it in its common, sexual, connotation? What if she then feels objectified and degraded? (I’m not trying to get into some horrible PC debate here, I’m just trying to unpack the word in question. Honestly. The PC thought police are SO mid-90s on the MSU campus I can’t stand it.)

Just playing devil’s advocate here, but the more I think about it, the more I think that the choice of the word “hot” is a more loaded word than, say, “pretty”. Why use a word with such potential for sexual innuendo when a more neutral word would work?

So I guess I’ll pose a question to the OP- was the intent of your poll to determine the sinfulness (or innocence) of the word “hot”, as applied to people, or was it to determine the sinfulness (or innocence) of verbal expression of a female’s physical beauty?
 
Is it wrong to look at a womans bum bum, or her body, and think she has a nice body and a bum bum. If it is, then why has God made it so that we percieve a woman as nice to look at? When i see a women with a nice face and body (especailly these days with the cloths they wear) i can’t help but think wow!:blushing: Am i sinning?

Peace.
 
Catholig said:
As a high school student I don’t necessarily think the term “Hot” is entirely offensive, however most of the examples for its use, which I can think of seem to objectify who(m)ever is being talked about (e.g. “Do you think that she’s hot”). Really we should be more considerate, using words such as beautiful rather than “hot” or “sexy”.

Catholig
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As a High School student you have in my opinion given the winning answer. Congratulations. By the way I am over 70 and the word “hot” when applied to a woman or girl in particular makes me cringe and feel sorry for the ignorant individual who just spoke it.
 
I voted “no”
The term “Hot” in itself is a descriptive term. We can try and deny it, but some people are attractive/sexy/hot. Calling someone hot is just recognizing that they are sexually attractive, either in dress or in physique.
Most people, even if they won’t say the term, will label certain people as being hot.
In itself it’s not sinful to recognize someone as hot, it’s what you do with the knowledge. Acting on it in thought or deed would be sinful, but just recognizing it cannot be sinful. Otherwise I’d have sinned 15,000,000 times each day.
 
PennitentMan said:
I voted “no”
The term “Hot” in itself is a descriptive term. We can try and deny it, but some people are attractive/sexy/hot. Calling someone hot is just recognizing that they are sexually attractive, either in dress or in physique.
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Just curious, but what, in your mind, is the difference between physical beauty in a person and sexiness?

And I think the point is that noticing someone’s “sexiness” is not sinful, but elaborating on the notion, which commenting on it would imply,*** is***. It’s the difference between*** having*** lustful thoughts and entertaining them.

Not to pick on you- this thread is fascinating to me in sheer terms of importance of language and the difference between Beauty and sex. 😉
 
A sin? I don’t know. It certainly is tacky, at least from my POV. “Hot” meant something else when I was growing up. It wasn’t (and isn’t) something I’d call a girl, even if she is, errr, good-looking.

DaveBj
 
Cari said:
Out of curiousity, I went to www.urbandictionary.com to see what the general population meant by “hot”. Since the entry revolved around sex and sexual responses, I won’t post it here, but if you’re interested, here’s the link:

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hot

To be fair, the concept of beauty did make an appearence, but not a big one. The general line of thinking was:
  1. A sexual response makes one feel “hot”
  2. one who arouses a sexual response in another is then also termed “hot”
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I will personally say that “urban dictionary’s” are not always very reliable with slang definitions. Since the definition can vary within different areas and age groups.

At least I know that when girls says a guy is “hot” to her friends it usually just means good looking and nothing else. (At least in the late teens early 20’s age group, and around where I live.) However I don’t use the word almost ever, because it is a word that could be miss-interpreted by those who have a different view of the definition. (And it’s just not very tasteful.)

I don’t think it is sinful the word hot, as long as it just means good looking. (However it depends on the context, for example a man yelling at a woman walking by “you’re hot” would be wrong.)
 
Just curious, but what, in your mind, is the difference between physical beauty in a person and sexiness?
And I think the point is that noticing someone’s “sexiness” is not sinful, but elaborating on the notion, which commenting on it would imply, is. It’s the difference between having lustful thoughts and entertaining them.
Not to pick on you- this thread is fascinating to me in sheer terms of importance of language and the difference between Beauty and sex.
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Hi there!
No worries, I don’t feel picked on 🙂
To your question:

Nothing.

Men are made to find the opposite sex attractive. We are very visual and beauty translates into sexiness.
Here’s an example-the way guys think:
If I look at a girl walking down the road, she is far away, I cannot see her face, so I look at her as a whole. If she looks slim, fit, curvy (Whatever a male defiens as beautiful), her beauty is going to be directly translated into sexiness.
In this scenario, it’s almost 100% the case that beauty = sexiness. Most guys’ struggles lie in this first reaction. One has to learn that this thought, being an involuntary thought, is not in itelf sinful…many of us with scruples tend to think that as soon as they spot a beautiful girl walking down the road, they have comited a sin.
But it’s not that defining thought that is sinful, it’s if we choose to take that thought and take it further…
A preist once said, it’s not the first look that is sinful, it’s the second look that is…

I hope I explained myself and gave you alook inside the mind of the average guy 🙂
 
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