Is it bad to buy products from china

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It’s too bad American companies can’t compete with cheap foreign labor, on one hand the items are affordable - thus contributing to our rampant materialism- perhaps a different topic. I don’t think this materialism/consumerism is good, it takes us away from spirituality, from God and things that are really important.

We don’t have too many choices to buy American goods anymore. 😦 Even our American flags are made in China !! (I wonder if other nations have their flags made in China?):confused:
 
We can’t compete because they do not have organizations such as OSHA or Unions that fight for the workers to have a safe working environment… hence costing the mfg’s big bucks for safety equipment on the job/machinery!

Watch this video:
youtube.com/watch?v=JhdH1ezM7To

These are guys operating a metal stamping press. If the white shirted guy doesn’t duck in time… smushed China-Dude on the sheetmetal!.. or if the guy in orange gloves is “off the beat”… just call me “One-Arm Charlie”…

They don’t care - they have a job, and know that there are a billion others waiting that will duck in time.

This place would be SHUT DOWN in a heartbeat in the US.
 
Kind of reminds of me of where we were in the early days of the Industrial age, when boys and girls worked 12 hr days in sweatshops, before unionization, before labor laws. 😦 Thank goodness we’re not chained down to sewing machines anymore.

Chinese workers are regularly marching and holding demonstrations for workers rights and improved working conditions, but they’re being ignored, arrested or fined. :mad:
 
Well if you are sitting in front of a Dell computer, then you have bought from China.

Don’t buy anthing from Cracker Barrel. 95% of the stuff is made in China.
 
JoeyWarren said:
Well if you are sitting in front of a Dell computer, then you have bought from China.

Don’t buy anthing from Cracker Barrel. 95% of the stuff is made in China.
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Cracker Barrel? I never heard of Cracker Barrel, except there was a restaurant here by that name years ago.:confused:
 
JoeyWarren said:
Yes it is a restaurant 60% and 40% gift shop. Found at some major Interstate Exits.

crackerbarrel.com/

Famous for it’s replicas of old signs.
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Yes it’s true you can’t buy most things, but you can still buy
candy, candles, and their famous checker game. I also got a
little magnetic toy there where you give a man a beard. When
more people buy things not made in China, they will re-order
those things.
 
Why not buy from the devil himself then? Germany back in the 30s was making fine autos…also so what if the average worker in china makes something like 38cents an hour…cant quit the job…has no health benefits at all…works some 10-12 hours a day…we must buy those sneakers made by slave laborers all right! Cuban cigars would be a nice treat…lil Elians’ mom gave her life to escape cuba ,another workers paradise…to try and get her son here…he was sent back…so what…lets alll be PC and not question it…maybe if we buy these slave labor goods the forces of evil controlling that betrayed land will become nicer…since its what…1949…so for over 50 years they suffer.but so what…this baseball season looks hot…Nino
 
JoeyWarren said:
Let us not forget Chocolate!

Approximately 40% of all Chocolate comes from the “Ivory Coast” aka Sudan where Christians are periodically Crucified.

google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=crucifixions+in+sudan&spell=1

209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:BMMZNSF19iIJ:www.stopthetraffik.org/chocolateDownloads/chocolate_fact_extended.pdf+where+does+chocolate+come+from&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us
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Isn’t the Ivory Coast (Cote d’Ivoire) a separate country?
Cote d’Ivoire and Ghana are the world’s leading cocoa bean (used to make chocolate) producers.
 
JoeyWarren said:
Let us not forget Chocolate!

Approximately 40% of all Chocolate comes from the “Ivory Coast” aka Sudan where Christians are periodically Crucified.

google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=crucifixions+in+sudan&spell=1

209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:BMMZNSF19iIJ:www.stopthetraffik.org/chocolateDownloads/chocolate_fact_extended.pdf+where+does+chocolate+come+from&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us
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It is mind-boggling to think that in another country, Christians are
being crucified, while in our country, we pay China to persecute
Christians by purchasing products produced in the labor camps.
So…do you buy chocolate? This story is new to me
 
Whoa there. Before we suggest a boycott of things chocolate, let’s remember there are other countries which grow cocoa that are not involved in such practices. I know this for a fact.

As the article says, the supply chain is complex. Maybe if there were one or two companies whose cocoa came only from offending countries, we could do something. Anything less specific is liable to hurt as it is to help the innocent.
 
seekerz said:
Whoa there. Before we suggest a boycott of things chocolate, let’s remember there are other countries which grow cocoa that are not involved in such practices. I know this for a fact.

As the article says, the supply chain is complex. Maybe if there were one or two companies whose cocoa came only from offending countries, we could do something. Anything less specific is liable to hurt as it is to help the innocent.
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If they are innocent, let them certify that they don’t use child
slave labor. I disagree with the idea that we would hurt innocent
people if we didn’t eat chocolate. Many give up sweets for lent
and I have yet to hear a priest condemn this for reason that it
hurts innocent people. If someone feels strongly now
that they shouldn’t buy it, I find this admirable.
 
cheeto1 said:
If they are innocent, let them certify that they don’t use child
slave labor. I disagree with the idea that we would hurt innocent
people if we didn’t eat chocolate. Many give up sweets for lent
and I have yet to hear a priest condemn this for reason that it
hurts innocent people. If someone feels strongly now
that they shouldn’t buy it, I find this admirable.
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Is there a mechanism for them to certify that?
Are we going to stop eating chocolate before of after we find out?
Or are we going to hurt someone innocent country’s economy first?

I agree that we shouldn’t condone slavery or exploitation
of the poor, but surely in opposing it we shouldn’t make beggars
of innocent people. When economies fail, which country will
accept the migrants with open arms? Not ours I’m thinking…

Please be responsible in advocating choices that may hurt those
who have done no harm.
 
seekerz said:
Is there a mechanism for them to certify that?
Are we going to stop eating chocolate before of after we find out?
Or are we going to hurt someone innocent country’s economy first?

I agree that we shouldn’t condone slavery or exploitation
of the poor, but surely in opposing it we shouldn’t make beggars
of innocent people. When economies fail, which country will
accept the migrants with open arms? Not ours I’m thinking…

Please be responsible in advocating choices that may hurt those
who have done no harm.
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A mechanism? I bought a basketball that had a seal on it
which said, “Certified, no slave or child labor used to produce
this ball”. I see no reason why other products from questionable origins can’t be certified this way. This idea that if we eat healthier it will hurt countries’ economies is one that I disagree with. Just how much chocolate are we required to eat in order not to hurt innocent people?
 
Roughly two-thirds of the entire world’s cocoa is produced in Western Africa, with close to half of the total sourced from Côte d’Ivoire(Ivory Coast). Like many food industry producers, individual cocoa farmers are at the mercy of volatile world markets. The price can vary from £500 ($945) to £3,000 ($5,672) per ton, in the space of just a few years. While investors trading in cacao can dump shares at will, individual cocoa farmers cannot increase production or abandon trees at anywhere near that pace. When cocoa prices drop, farmers in West Africa sometimes cut costs by using slave labor.** It has been alleged that an estimated 90% of cocoa farms in Côte d’Ivoire have used some form of slave labor in order to remain viable.**
 
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