Is it easier to be Protestant or Catholic?

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As a Protestant who’s been thinking seriously about the church and attending both Mass and a Protestant service for 3 months now, I’ll take a stab. First, I’d say that it REALLY depends on where you’re coming from. If you were, for instance, to take a person raised entirely outside of Christianity, and ask me to pick them out a church to initiate them into- assuming I knew nothing else about them- I would not pick the Catholic Church. Not if I wanted it to take. Even assuming that the Catholic Church is the One True Church- because in that case, I’d also be assuming the possibility of invincible ignorance, and that someone entirely outside of the Christian faith might well be invincibly ignorant enough to get saved “through” the Catholic Church but in, say, the Methodist Church. Not that I’d send them to the Methodist Church either. I don’t know where I’d send them.

Probably someplace like the non-denominational church I’ve attended where they’re doctrinally OK- accept the Apostles Creed, no sex before marriage (though keep a little quiet about that, huh?), the Bible’s Inspired and maybe even inerrant depending on what’s meant by that, abortion is wrong, etc- but where there are singer’s with pink hair, tattooed guitarists, and a preacher with the fire of the old-time evangelists but a message that teeters between orthodoxy and Christianity as Rebellion. This isn’t maybe the kind of church that endures (perhaps there really is only the one of those) but it’s one that does OK with one of the biggest challenges to the modern evangelist, Protestant or Catholic- getting people to think of Christianity as a viable option. There are non-denominational Protestant churches like this sprouting up everywhere and if they’re sometimes, like much of Protestantism, a kind of social club- replacing popular culture and society with their own version- they’re usually not wildly wrong on doctrine. Maybe on emphasis. But doctrinally, not a whole lot you can put your finger on. They get people in the door. And once they’re in the door, hearing a message at least closely related to the true message, I figure the Holy Spirit can work on their hearts.

That said, the person and the situation matters. Yes, I wouldn’t want to send a generic, unchurched person straight to the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church is bound to seem particularly “hard” if you’ve never been any kind of Christian, and because the Catholic Church looks rather different from the outside. I was talking to my mother about this recently. She grew up a Catholic and I was actually baptized one (though, as best as I can tell, that was the first and last time I went to mass until adulthood) but she doesn’t have any bitterness toward the Church. She’s not one of those. She just likes praise music and was taught “extra ecclesiam nulla salus” badly (and is too compassionate to be comfortable with the caricature) and so she was born again and hasn’t given the Catholic Church much thought, for good or ill, since. We were talking about Mary and the Saints interceding which seemed to me the one really big difference between orthodox Protestantism and Orthodox Catholicism- outside of the specific claims of the apostolic succession and the Church itself which are inherent to Catholicism- and she asked me if I believed they could or did, and that we needed them to intercede or whether Christ was enough.

I didn’t have an answer for her, not really, and still don’t (and yes, I understand that the conception of intercession is complicated), so I said simply, “well, if I become a Catholic I’ll have to believe that, won’t I?”. So the real question was whether or not I was going to become a Catholic. And since the question of Saints or Mary interceding had never occurred to me before- indeed Mary and the Saints had never occurred to me before- it wasn’t going to the stumbling block for me. But the point was, as a potential convert to Catholicism, it didn’t really occur to me that I could ignore doctrine of the Church and still be a coherent Catholic. I think everyone outside of the Church with even the mildest sense of history realizes that becoming a Catholic means something and that, in some sense, places obligations on you. I don’t think there are many non-Catholics who would convert to Catholicism unless they were planning on being faithful (i.e, faithful to Church Doctrine) Catholics.

I have the sense that it looks different from the inside. There are, and I’m sure you’ve met them, any number of Catholics who see no contradiction in believing that the Magisterium is true and infallible dogma, while simultaneously believing they’re free to ignore that dogma. I think it is probably slightly easier to be a Cafeteria Catholic than a Cafeteria Protestant. If only because Protestants don’t hang around the building if they don’t like the food- they go to a whole nother restaurant. Catholics, maybe because of culture, maybe because of the religious education they go through, are slightly more likely, I think, to go through the smallest of motions while remaining mentally Catholic and nominally Catholic. I don’t think there are many Protestants who do this. Again, they either go to another, laxer church, swear off church entirely, or get born again and find a stricter sect. They’re not ones for half-measures (ask the Catholic Flannery O’Connor, whose stories were filled with wild, passionate Protestants). So I guess the long and short of it is, I think it’s probably easier to become a Protestant but easier to stay a Catholic.
Thats all great stuff but the question is, is it easier TO BE protestant or a catholic? It seems much easierto be a protestant whether or not thats where you start out or end up.
 
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…she asked me if I believed they could or did, and that we needed them to intercede or whether Christ was enough.
I didn’t have an answer for her, not really, and still don’t…
Well Chesterton, perhaps I can help here…and without getting too complicated.
The simple and complete answer to your mothers question is this;
Can they intercede? Yes
Do they intercede? Yes
Do we need to ask them to intercede for us? No
Is Christ enough? Yes

While the Church does teach that the Church triumphant (Mary and the Saints) can and does intercede for us and that we can ask for their intercession, It is not a requirement. So if one is more comfortable just going to Jesus, OR just going to the father in the way that Jesus taught us, that is perfectly fine as well.

Peace
James
 
Well Chesterton, perhaps I can help here…and without getting too complicated.
The simple and complete answer to your mothers question is this;
Can they intercede? Yes
Do they intercede? Yes
Do we need to ask them to intercede for us? No
Is Christ enough? Yes

While the Church does teach that the Church triumphant (Mary and the Saints) can and does intercede for us and that we can ask for their intercession, It is not a requirement. So if one is more comfortable just going to Jesus, OR just going to the father in the way that Jesus taught us, that is perfectly fine as well.

Peace
James
Amen
 
One of the things that makes it hard to be either a Catholic or Protestant is when we learn, often in heartbreaking and harmful ways (sometimes even through crimes), that other Christians in our church/denomination are not to be trusted.

**Once trust is lost, it is very hard to trust again. **

We all know about “pervert priests.” I don’t need to describe it, but needless to say, thousands of Catholics, probably hundreds of thousands of Catholics, refuse to trust the Catholic Church because of the heinous sins of a few.

There are also “pervert pastors” in the Protestant churches. Until recently most of these were never brought to public knowledge, but that’s changing. Ted Haggard is just one example of a pervert brought down, and many evangelicals are still reeling after Haggard broke trust with them.

But there are a lot of reasons why Christians lose trust that are not sexual.

Most of us have heard of Protestant “church-hopping.” There are lots of reasons why Protestants leave a church and start the “church search” for another church. Often it is music–this issue is extremely divisive for Christians, both Catholic and Protestant. (Not sure about the Orthodox).

But many Protestant Christians will stick it out in their home church even if the music is awful. What makes most Protestant Christians walk away from a church home is losing trust in someone.

Sometimes it’s an individual who does something unacceptable, e.g., stealing money, bullying, constant insults in public, adultery, failure to carry through on a promise, etc.

And sometimes it’s one of the ministries in the church; e.g., the choir dissolves because the music minister decides to go “rock” instead of traditional (or vice versa), the children’s ministries are discontinued due to lack of funds, a person of questionable faith is elected to the Church Board, etc.

I realize that to some Christians, all of these sound incredibly trivial, but believe me, they can be very hurtful to Protestants, especially when they have lived in idyllic peace and goodness in their churches since they were born.

Until I was in my 40s, I lived and moved in beautiful evangelical Protestant churches were people loved each other and worked and played together. I was as innocent of guile and hatred as a baby. I honestly thought all evangelical Christians were to be loved and trusted.

Lord, was I a fool.

Then we became part of an Evangelical Free Church. From the very beginning my younger daughter insisted loudly that the church was “evil, we should leave this church now,” but of course we didn’t listen to a child. I wish to God we had listened.

I won’t go into detail about what happened to our family at this church, but the end result was that we were kicked out during a tribunal meeting. The ousting was unjust, and the shunning that followed was cruel.

This happened in 2002, and to this day, I still struggle with trust issues and Christianity.

I became Catholic because I came to believe that the Catholic Church alone has Christ-given Authority here on this earth. I wanted to rest in that Authority and let the Church lead me, instead of having to lead myself.

At first I naively believed that all Catholics accept that authority. :rotfl:

But then I learned about the in-fighting. I don’t see much of it in real-life in my parishes, thank goodness, but based primarily on my experiences on CAF, I have been very discouraged by the Catholics, both traditional and modern, who fight against the Authority of the Church and insist on being their own authorities.

This frightens me, because it’s the reason why we left the evangelical Protestant churches and became Catholic. We saw first-hand the horror that can happen when people insist that they are in charge.

I believe that others have experienced things in their churches, both Protestant and Catholic, that have destroyed their trust, and I think this is why so many Christians–true Christians–are balking at committing to ANY church involvement, Catholic or Protestant. They just can’t trust anyone.

Yes, they trust God, but “church” is God working through human beings, and it’s the “human beings” that they don’t trust.

I think God will go easy on all of us who have been betrayed by Christians and judge us a little less harshly. OTOH, perhaps He will ask more of us who have been hurt, and expect us to do whatever we can to help other Christians to give up any trust in any human and trust only God.

So in short, I don’t believe it’s easy to be either Catholic or Protestant, but I think that the Catholic Church at least has the Christ-given Authority, while the Protestant churches do not. This, IMO, makes it easier to be a Catholic because we can “rest” in the Lord, while in Protestant churches, there is always the question, “Who’s in charge?” That’s very very hard to deal in both daily life issues, and the big spiritual questions. Being Protestant is like walking through a fog, and occasionally coming across a patch of sunshine, and also a line of storms. But mainly it’s all fog.
 
I would think that any person of faith would not consider their faith to be difficult or easy…it just is…I would think that to live faithfully for the Lord in this difficult world would be a joy and not a burden.

Interesting perspectives.
 
So in short, I don’t believe it’s easy to be either Catholic or Protestant, but I think that the Catholic Church at least has the Christ-given Authority, while the Protestant churches do not. This, IMO, makes it easier to be a Catholic because we can “rest” in the Lord, while in Protestant churches, there is always the question, “Who’s in charge?” That’s very very hard to deal in both daily life issues, and the big spiritual questions. Being Protestant is like walking through a fog, and occasionally coming across a patch of sunshine, and also a line of storms. But mainly it’s all fog.
Cat, the real answer in most cases comes down to US. How seriously do we take our faith? There are many cafeteria Catholics who probably find the Catholic Church quite easy. Others who disagree with Church teachings probably find it quite hard. And I know this is true among Protestants.
Maybe God just works with us on whatever level we are on.
 
Protestant.
No mortal sin, no confirmation, no need to go to church every week, there’s no structure in the churches, they believe your saved off faith alone.
 
Protestant.
No mortal sin, no confirmation, no need to go to church every week, there’s no structure in the churches, they believe your saved off faith alone.
Yep, that’s why I think they will be spending a heck of a lot more time in Purgatory before they get through the pearly gates.:sad_yes::tsktsk::gopray2:Peace, Carlan
 
Protestant.
No mortal sin, no confirmation, no need to go to church every week, there’s no structure in the churches, they believe your saved off faith alone.
In other words,do nothing because I am already accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
 
Hi Andrew,
Generalities such as this are just that: generalities.

Jon
You’re referring to the following quote from AndrewJMason’s post: “No mortal sin, no confirmation, no need to go to church every week, there’s no structure in the churches, they believe your saved off faith alone.”

I agree with you that we shouldn’t generalize.

But I also think that AndrewJMason very accurately summed up evangelical Protestantism, which is the fastest-growing type of Protestantism in the U.S. today.

JonNC, you are Lutheran, and the Lutheran denoms that I know of (Missouri Synod, Wisconsin Synod, ELCA) are losing members.

My husband and I were evangelical Protestant for 47 years, and the teachings that AndrewJMason summed up are exactly what we lived with. So for evangelical Protestants, the generalizations are pretty spot on.

However, as I mentioned above, there are other things about evangelical Protestantism that makes it difficult.

Has everyone seen those squishy tubes in the toy sections? A person tries to grab the tube, but it keeps sliding between your hands. That’s kind of what evangelical Protestantism is like. You think you have everything figured out and lined up, and then you discover that “there’s something you missed.”
 
I guess you missed the scripture I provided. Being born into sin is a fact of life. But scripture tells us that NOTHING will separate us from God’s love. That means NOTHING. If that kind of all inclusive, all engulfing love is difficult for some people, then I don’t know what to say to them. Scripture also tells us that we have no problems that are not “common to man”. Then there is that pesky “Count it all joy” when people revile and persecute you. Shall I go on?
No. I am just trying to find out where your theology includes (if it does) suffering. When you say it should be “easy”, it seems to indicate a very shallow understanding of human experience.
 

This is also Biblical. Works can’t lead to salvation
God Bless
While I think we are all in agreement that we are saved by grace, through faith, and not of our own works, It think that this statement falls short of the Truth. Each human being is bound to pursue God to the best of their ability. In doing so, they are led toward salvation.

In support of my point, I ask this question. Why did God send Peter to the house of Cornelius?

Acts 10:2-6
2 He was a devout man who feared God with all his household; he gave alms generously to the people and prayed constantly to God. 3 One afternoon at about three o’clock he had a vision in which he clearly saw an angel of God coming in and saying to him, “Cornelius.” 4 He stared at him in terror and said, “What is it, Lord?” He answered,** "Your prayers and your alms have ascended as a memorial before God**. 5 Now send men to Joppa for a certain Simon who is called Peter;

To those who have, more is given.

By doing good deeds and seeking God in every way he knew, Cornelius good works led him to salvation. He responded to grace, and grace met his faith.
 
=Cat;7701622]You’re referring to the following quote from AndrewJMason’s post: “No mortal sin, no confirmation, no need to go to church every week, there’s no structure in the churches, they believe your saved off faith alone.”
I agree with you that we shouldn’t generalize.
But I also think that AndrewJMason very accurately summed up evangelical Protestantism, which is the fastest-growing type of Protestantism in the U.S. today.
So, indeed, and that is why it was a generality and not a false statement.
JonNC, you are Lutheran, and the Lutheran denoms that I know of (Missouri Synod, Wisconsin Synod, ELCA) are losing members.
Don’t know about WELS, but it is true of LCMS and ELCA, and I’m not sure about Lutheranism worldwide. And it is probably true that a portion of lost members do go to evangelical groups here in America.
My husband and I were evangelical Protestant for 47 years, and the teachings that AndrewJMason summed up are exactly what we lived with. So for evangelical Protestants, the generalizations are pretty spot on.
However, as I mentioned above, there are other things about evangelical Protestantism that makes it difficult.
Has everyone seen those squishy tubes in the toy sections? A person tries to grab the tube, but it keeps sliding between your hands. That’s kind of what evangelical Protestantism is like. You think you have everything figured out and lined up, and then you discover that “there’s something you missed.”
Interesting analogy. One of the problems I see in American Lutheranism, is the infiltration of protestantism, which has, in my view, what confessional Lutheranism is. As a result, I think there are some who leave Lutheranism looking for a return to the orthodox Christianity that they see slipping away from some circles American Lutheranism (liberalism in the ELCA, and a form of American evangelicalism which has a small presence in the LCMS). They end up Catholic or Orthodox.

Jon
 
I’ve been both. For the first 47 years of my life, I was an active and faithful member of various evangelical Protestant churches. In 2004, my husband and I converted to Catholicism, and we’ve been active and faithful Catholics.

So which is easier? :confused:

I don’t want to post my opinion yet (mainly because I have to go to work now!). Also, I am interested in reading what others have to say.

On the surface, it seems that Protestantism is the “easier” path. No obligations, no sacraments. For many Protestants, no fear of ever losing heaven. Great music, friendly people, lots of activities for children and teenagers. Lots of activities for all ages, actually.

Catholics have obligations, including the Sunday Mass obligation. Catholics have sacraments. Catholics must avoid “mortal sin” or they will not go to heaven. Catholic music is often bearable, but seldom great. Many Catholic parishes are hard to make friends in. Often there are very limited activities for Catholics–maybe a Bible study, and maybe not. Probably not a weekly kids’ club–instead, the kids get “religious education”–no campfires or craft projects or sing-alongs in CCD! And youth groups–often they are pretty small, because all the Catholic teens are over at the Assemblies of God weekly youth meeting along with hundreds of other teens! Or the Catholic teens have stopped attending Church entirely, to the dismay of their parents.

But is Protestantism really easier? Hmmm…

I encourage anyone to think about and answer this question. Obviously converts to Catholicism have personal experience with both forms of Christianity, but I know a lot of Catholics who have knowledge of Protestant life and practices, too.
This is a very good question and a very good discussion to have.

Having only been following Christ since my senior year of high school (4 years ago), things can still be pretty new to me.

The first church I ever went to was a Pentecostal church. This church was “great”. It had everything you described above: tons of kids my age for me to hang out with as well as study with, great music, awesome preaching and powerful sermons. I had a great time there, both me and my brother did. We ended up leaving the church though because my family felt that my brother an I were a part of a cult. They had found a website that labeled that particular church as a cult. I didn’t feel it was, but this information was creating a rift between my family and us (me and my brother). So we left that church, feeling that if it really was Christ’s church, then my family would feel comfortable with us attending, not fearing for our lives.

Since then I’ve done my own research and studies, trying to figure out what God really wants from me. I started listening to my local Catholic radio and was instantly drawn in. Though I had some pretty big problems with the Catholic church from what I had heard, I decided that it was time for me to make my OWN arguments against the CC rather than use everyone else’s arguments.

The thing that I’ve realized it that, honestly, protestantism is harder. I do well with guidelines, especially when they’ve been laid out for the betterment of myself (in this case, my spiritual life). My brother and I feel the same way with Protestantism: I can go to 10 different pastors, ask each one 20 different questions, and without fail get 30 different answers. I’m left to my own devices to figure stuff out. Honestly, with 2,000 years plus of history, culture, theology, archaeology…there is too much for me to know and I am bound to make a mistake. One of the greatest things that I’ve learned about the CC is that I can go to almost any priest (if they follow the Bible and Church’s teaching rather than (name removed by moderator)utting their own ideas), and they will give me the same answer because the whole church is UNITED.

I’ve moved on from the music of Protestant Churches; I’ve got iTunes for that. I’ve moved on from retreats; I don’t have time to go camping, I need Christ and I need Him now. And, I’ve moved on from “powerful sermons”; any heretic can sound believable with a loud enough microphone.

Thats my opinion and I’m stickin’ to it!

God Bless 😃
 
This is a very good question and a very good discussion to have.

Having only been following Christ since my senior year of high school (4 years ago), things can still be pretty new to me.

The first church I ever went to was a Pentecostal church. This church was “great”. It had everything you described above: tons of kids my age for me to hang out with as well as study with, great music, awesome preaching and powerful sermons. I had a great time there, both me and my brother did. We ended up leaving the church though because my family felt that my brother an I were a part of a cult. They had found a website that labeled that particular church as a cult. I didn’t feel it was, but this information was creating a rift between my family and us (me and my brother). So we left that church, feeling that if it really was Christ’s church, then my family would feel comfortable with us attending, not fearing for our lives.

Since then I’ve done my own research and studies, trying to figure out what God really wants from me. I started listening to my local Catholic radio and was instantly drawn in. Though I had some pretty big problems with the Catholic church from what I had heard, I decided that it was time for me to make my OWN arguments against the CC rather than use everyone else’s arguments.

The thing that I’ve realized it that, honestly, protestantism is harder. I do well with guidelines, especially when they’ve been laid out for the betterment of myself (in this case, my spiritual life). My brother and I feel the same way with Protestantism: I can go to 10 different pastors, ask each one 20 different questions, and without fail get 30 different answers. I’m left to my own devices to figure stuff out. Honestly, with 2,000 years plus of history, culture, theology, archaeology…there is too much for me to know and I am bound to make a mistake. One of the greatest things that I’ve learned about the CC is that I can go to almost any priest (if they follow the Bible and Church’s teaching rather than (name removed by moderator)utting their own ideas), and they will give me the same answer because the whole church is UNITED.

I’ve moved on from the music of Protestant Churches; I’ve got iTunes for that. I’ve moved on from retreats; I don’t have time to go camping, I need Christ and I need Him now. And, I’ve moved on from “powerful sermons”; any heretic can sound believable with a loud enough microphone.

Thats my opinion and I’m stickin’ to it!

God Bless 😃
This post shows a great deal of wisdom.

I would like to make sure, though, that in abandoning Protestantism in favor of Catholicis, that we don’t throw out perfectly good trappings. There is nothing wrong with good music–I think that a resurgence of really good music of any style would really be a good thing for the Catholic Church in the U.S. There’s nothing wrong with retreats–our parish has an excellent retreat twice a year. Nothing wrong with camping–it’s a great way to reach children and teens. Our diocese holds a “vocations camp” for teens who are discerning a vocation. As for “powerful sermons”, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them! St. Anothony of Padua was known for his powerful preaching, and people came from miles around and stood for hours to hear his “golden tongue.”

I think sometimes, Catholics are too quick to label something good and wholesome and uplifting as “Protestant” (said with a sniff and a toss of the head). We have to be careful not to condemn those things that are good and could help us to grow closer to Jesus.
 
This post shows a great deal of wisdom.

I would like to make sure, though, that in abandoning Protestantism in favor of Catholicis, that we don’t throw out perfectly good trappings. There is nothing wrong with good music–I think that a resurgence of really good music of any style would really be a good thing for the Catholic Church in the U.S. There’s nothing wrong with retreats–our parish has an excellent retreat twice a year. Nothing wrong with camping–it’s a great way to reach children and teens. Our diocese holds a “vocations camp” for teens who are discerning a vocation. As for “powerful sermons”, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them! St. Anothony of Padua was known for his powerful preaching, and people came from miles around and stood for hours to hear his “golden tongue.”

I think sometimes, Catholics are too quick to label something good and wholesome and uplifting as “Protestant” (said with a sniff and a toss of the head). We have to be careful not to condemn those things that are good and could help us to grow closer to Jesus.
I completely agree. I was just saying that those things (good music, retreats, etc) often make up churches and are fun, but that church isn’t teaching everything that it should. All I was saying was that I’d take a “boring” mass with the TRUTH rather than an “exciting” sermon without the truth. The retreats and funs stuff should be the icing on the cake, not the entirety of the cake with the teachings as the icing.
 
I completely agree. I was just saying that those things (good music, retreats, etc) often make up churches and are fun, but that church isn’t teaching everything that it should. All I was saying was that I’d take a “boring” mass with the TRUTH rather than an “exciting” sermon without the truth. The retreats and funs stuff should be the icing on the cake, not the entirety of the cake with the teachings as the icing.
Yes, definitely.

Actually, a lot of Protestant church services are rather dull, too, although to first-timers, these services, especially the Pentecostal and some of the non-denominational services, seem charged-up and rockin’, and many Catholics and Mainline Protestants find the services exciting compared to what they are used to. (This is true especially if the Catholic or Mainline Protestant is looking for an excuse to leave their church! ;))

But if they continue to attend evangelical Protestant services, they will find that eventually, the “exciting stuff” will become routine and “liturgical” just like the traditional liturgical services.

Many Protestant denominations insist that they don’t have a liturgical worship service, but in actuality, they do. Even the Pentecostal worship services, which claim to be Holy Spirit-led, have a liturgy. It isn’t the same as the Catholic or Lutheran liturgy, but it is an “order of service” nonetheless, and it can and does become “routine” and yes, dull, after many months.

In the last year that my husband and I were evangelical Protestant, we used to remain in the lobby during the Praise and Worship time (we called it the 20-Minute Worship Workout), because the songs were so trite and boring, and the “worship” was more of a “one-man show” than a communal fellowship of praise. (One of the P & W worship leaders was the “leader” of the group, and he was way over-the-top.) It was just so mindless and childish, but children didn’t seem to enjoy this time, either; kids like songs with substance and strong melodies, not warbling freestyle songs that only a soloist with jazz experience can sing.

Also, although there are many men and women who are really good, interesting preachers in the evangelical Protestant churches, there are also quite a few really bad preachers who obviously slept through “How To Give A Sermon” back in seminary! Hoo, boy, some of those preachers were dull! My husband and daughters used to play a silent “alphabet game” during the sermons; to everyone else, it looked like they were taking sermon notes (which many evangelicals do, BTW). And I would often doze off (along with all the old folks and the mothers of young babies).
 
This post shows a great deal of wisdom.

I would like to make sure, though, that in abandoning Protestantism in favor of Catholicis, that we don’t throw out perfectly good trappings. There is nothing wrong with good music–I think that a resurgence of really good music of any style would really be a good thing for the Catholic Church in the U.S. There’s nothing wrong with retreats–our parish has an excellent retreat twice a year. Nothing wrong with camping–it’s a great way to reach children and teens. Our diocese holds a “vocations camp” for teens who are discerning a vocation. As for “powerful sermons”, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them! St. Anothony of Padua was known for his powerful preaching, and people came from miles around and stood for hours to hear his “golden tongue.”

**I think sometimes, Catholics are too quick to label something good and wholesome and uplifting as “Protestant” (said with a sniff and a toss of the head). We have to be careful not to condemn those things that are good and could help us to grow closer to Jesus. **
I think that this is very true. I’ve often heard the charge that protestants don’t do this or that (sign of the cross or the crucifix) simply because it is seen as “too Catholic”. Yet we can (and do) make the same mistake ourselves.

Peace
James
 
I don’t think this is the right way to approach your faith. I have found in my own faith journey belief has never been easy; I have had to make a tough decision to leave a particular denomination, but only after carefully examining the evidence and making a good decision according to conscience.

I think being ‘Catholic’ or ‘Protestant’ is not really the point; the point is whether you are really sincere in following Christ in that tradition or framework, and whether you feel as though you are enriching the community with your gifts and talents and as if the community you belong to is nourishing your faith journey to God in Christ.

Each church is stained by sin (both individual and social) and the evidence is abundant in the corruption and incompetence you see both in lay Christians and also leaders. No matter how ‘liberal’ or ‘conservative’ a church is, or what political preference its leaders follow, in my experience all Christians and their leaders make stupid mistakes and sin, even if they do all the ‘rules’ of their church require. Being a Christian or a Christian of a certain denomination does not guarantee you are right on a particular issue, or before God.

It should not be about ‘me’ and ‘what I get out of it’ but about a renewed and transformed life in Christ. People are different and so are churches, and despite what some profess, some people just don’t fit into certain churches. While a church should do all it can to make everyone welcome, people need to think a bit and take care before ‘taking the plunge.’ I wish I had done so before making some of the decisions I made in the past, without being critical of any denomination.
 
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