Is it good to ever be emotional and subjective?

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Agreed. What is it you really want to talk about Penit?
I feel like you’re always dancing around some bigger issue that you can’t or won’t discuss. Is it your inability to have satisfying relationships?
Your constant bewilderment that people find you hard to get along with?Your need to be right?

WHAT is it?
You like to wax philosophical, but never ever get to the point.
We’ve had this conversation on the old CAF dozens of times.

What?
What???

There are a lot of people who care about you, but this total refusal to take what these people say to heart makes many wonder if you’re just here to lecture others. 🤔

If that is the case, get out there and volunteer, tutor children, visit the elderly, join the choir, feed the hungry. Something productive.
 
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Our emotions can hinder us from seeing the truth about situations, people, and ourselves.
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Are any instances when emotionality is better than rationality?
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Emotion can sometimes hinder us, but it can also help us. Imagine you see someone being who appears to be visibly upset. Perhaps it is a situation that you your self can sympathize with. This can move you check on them, comfort them, etc…

If you ignore all emotion and rely purely on rationality, then how might this or other situations play out? You might witness an event occur where there was the potential for someone to have been hurt or upset. You might ask the person if they are okay and they coldly reply yes, seeming distant and upset. If you refuse to rely on emotions (yours and theirs), then their reply of yes is the only thing that would be considered.

We are created for love, but love exists only when there is an option to not love. Likewise, emotions are an integral part of our being that include both happy and sad, up and down.

Anything in extremes can be harmful; this could be emotions, but also being too objective, too subjective, too rational, etc… We must strive for moderation, but not obliteration of the urges of our heart and mind.
 
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If people were less emotional and more logical, they wouldn’t be foolish? They would know not to cry if they are guilty for the end of a relationship. They wouldn’t think being single at 19 was the end of the world.
 
This isn’t about it being the end of the world, but the grief of the end of one view of it. Would it be more serious if the woman was 29? 39? 59?
 
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I don’t know why people make foolish choices
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Orly?🤨

Are you going to sit here and tell me that you have never made foolish choices?

Because that’d be interesting.

I don’t know anyone who hasn’t made a foolish choice here and there.
 
I think I had made plenty. An example would be starting this post.
 
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Probably it would be more serious at an older age.
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Somewhat–it depends on our cultural conditioning. Our sexual maturity indicates that we should be seeking a spouse somewhere between 14 and 17 years of age. For most of humanity, we did that. All of my grandparents and most of the people of my parent’s generation were married by 20. It’s only in the last 30 years or so when we consider a 19yo too young to be seeking a future spouse.
 
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I think I had made plenty. An example would be starting this post.
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I don’t think your questioning is a foolery. What is troubling is that, like Clare indicates, you don’t seem to get anything or learn anything or ever reveal the crux of the matter of what causes you to feel this way.

Having these sorts of questions is never a bad thing. It’s a normal part of human development–but that’s the pivotal part–development.
 
Being logical does not mean you don’t feel emotions at all though.

Think of some people on the spectrum, they struggle with social relationships because they find it hard to be subjective.

Human beings are social creatures, and emotions are important for a reason. They build relationships, which is very, very crucial for development. You could try being a 100% logical and objective person in every situation ever. I doubt you would be a likeable person. And I doubt you would feel okay about it.

There are situations where logic trumps feelings (think politics) and there are situations where feelings trump logic (talking a person out of suicide).
 
Being logical allows critical thinking. It is important to see the world for what it is, not for what you want it to be. Imagine if we could remove personal feelings and biases, I think people could debate sensitive issues fairly, honestly and amicably.
If people were more realistic, honest and objective many poor choices wouldn’t be made. Impulsive choices.
 
Margaret perhaps you are talking about when emotion clouds judgement. That’s why it’s always good to respond and not react right away . It does not mean a person is exclusively logical.They just have temperence to control any emotions and express them when needed in a healthy way.

And I agree, a person with unchecked emotions are difficult, however someone who never express empathy or other positive emotions are difficult too. So a balance is always good.
 
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