Is it helpful praying for the soul of non-catholic?

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My Protestant friend’s brother was died of accident a few months ago. My friend was baptised in Protestant Church many years ago, his brother just believed in Jesus in heart but Never baptised before accident and in his life. I want to pray for the soul of his brother. Is it useful?

I know prayer for the soul of a Catholic is helpful for getting out from Purgatory to Heaven, and I always pray for the poor holy souls. But, I am not sure about those who never baptised, and even not sure about the baptism in Protestant church.

In my knowledge, only Catholics (those who baptised in Catholic Church) can get to heaven…

Any comment?
 
Absolutely useful. 🙂

Anecdote: a very secular friend of mine passed away several years ago. He wasn’t a close friend, but we shared the same hobby and had a lot of mutual friends, so our paths frequently crossed. He passed away from cancer. I prayed for him a little bit, when I thought about it-- but you know we don’t really think about or pray for people who have passed on as frequently as we should.

Then one day, I had a dream about him. He looked absolutely beautiful. His face was all gold and glowing, like there was this gold glow lit up from inside. I could have just stared at him for hours. 🙂 In life, he had a very distinctive voice, and a lot of character and personality, but he wouldn’t have won any beauty pageants. But he was really beautiful. He didn’t say anything, or do anything-- he was just smiling and standing there with a couple of people I have no clue who they were, and didn’t really pay attention to. When I went about my business that morning, I saw on FB that it was the (fourth? fifth?) anniversary of his death. I worked up the courage to tell his wife about the dream by the next anniversary…

Anyhow, it might have ultimately just been a dream, but I’m pretty sure that my friend is in Heaven. I don’t know anything about his walk with God during the last bit of his life, when the cancer and the chemo were wrecking his body. But if I had to bet a dollar, I’d bet that he’s in heaven right now.
 
I remember reading about a saint who had been given a revelation from God concerning the souls in Purgatory. The saint said that Protestant souls stay in Purgatory longer (or something similar to that) because they have no one to pray for them because their Protestant brethren do not believe in Purgatory.

So it is good to pray for the non-Catholic souls.

(Sorry that I cannot remember the name of the saint. Old age)😀

Blessings
 
I remember reading about a saint who had been given a revelation from God concerning the souls in Purgatory. The saint said that Protestant souls stay in Purgatory longer (or something similar to that) because they have no one to pray for them because their Protestant brethren do not believe in Purgatory.
Yeah, I’ve made it my practice to pray for my deceased Protestant in-laws because believe me, nobody else in the family is bothering (except possibly for one nephew who converted to marry a Catholic wife).

I made sure to include some Protestant cemeteries (Anglican, Quaker, Presbyterian, Baptist, and non-denominational) and a Jewish cemetery on my list of cemeteries for visits and prayers during the first 8 days of November. As well as five Catholic cemeteries of course.
 
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I’m sorry… In my knowledge, Baptism is a must to have a new spiritual life to be the same spiritual body as Jesus who died and went to heaven… and that is why Jesus need to come to earth to be human and tell us this good news, to preach and to let us be baptised. If non-catholics can go to heaven, what is the point of Baptism? Non-catholics can only have the body with the original sins and return to earth as dust after death and do not have the same spiritual body as Jesus so cannot go to heaven…

Baptism is important as this is the choice of one person before death, God gave everyone free will to choose to Love Him/ Believe in Him or not… so the soul cannot decide again after the soul left the body…

So maybe I think the prayers for non-catholics cannot save the soul anymore?
 
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I’m sorry… In my knowledge, Baptism is a must to have a new spiritual life to be the same spiritual body as Jesus who died and went to heaven… and that is why Jesus need to come to earth to be human and tell us this good news, to preach and to let us be baptised. If non-catholics can go to heaven, what is the point of Baptism? Non-catholics can only have the body with the original sins and return to earth as dust after death and do not have the same spiritual body as Jesus so cannot go to heaven…

Baptism is important as this is the choice of one person before death, God gave everyone free will to choose to Love Him/ Believe in Him or not… so the soul cannot decide again after the soul left the body…

So maybe I think the prayers for non-catholics cannot save the soul anymore?
Perhaps you do not know that the Church recognizes almost all Protestant Baptisms as valid, provided they use the Trinitarian formula and are done with the right intention.
 
Yes, only Catholics can enter Heaven if they die in the state of grace. Prayers for the souls in Purgatory (only Catholics can enter Purgatory as well) are helpful. Souls who depart this life in the state of Mortal Sin or Original Sin only cannot benefit from prayers since they are in Hell and their eternity is sealed.
 
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Yes, only Catholics can enter Heaven if they die in the state of grace.
It is not true that “only Catholics can enter Heaven” according to Church teaching. This article is rather involved, but it explains a number of ways how non-Catholics might have the possibility of Heaven, although no guarantee.


When it comes to non-Catholics, the Protestants whose baptisms are recognized by the Church have some advantage over other non-Catholics because in addition to their belief in Jesus as savior, they are also baptized.

The view that “only Catholics can enter Heaven” has not been held for many decades.
 
Jesus is the Resurrection, I guess you need to talk to Him. Say a prayer, then get on with it, unless you feel prompted to pray longer. That’s my two cents.

Oh geez . . . my condolences
 
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This is contrary to Church teaching. Please don’t post things in such a matter-of-fact manner if they aren’t accurate.
 
Post your source of this information. The Catechism (and by extension, the Church) disagrees.
 
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I know prayer for the soul of a Catholic is helpful for getting out from Purgatory to Heaven, and I always pray for the poor holy souls. But, I am not sure about those who never baptised, and even not sure about the baptism in Protestant church.

In my knowledge, only Catholics (those who baptised in Catholic Church) can get to heaven…

Any comment?
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You’re understanding is lacking:

From our Catholic Catechism:

1783 Conscience must be informed and moral judgment enlightened. A well-formed conscience is upright and truthful. It formulates its judgments according to reason, in conformity with the true good willed by the wisdom of the Creator. The education of conscience is indispensable for human beings who are subjected to negative influences and tempted by sin to prefer their own judgment and to reject authoritative teachings

WHO CAN BE SAVED?
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.

848 “Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men.

Because we CANNOT know fully the mind and heart [Mercy] of GOD [Isa 55: 6-9 ] [6] Seek ye the Lord, while he may be found: call upon him, while he is near. [7] Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unjust man his thoughts, and let him return to the Lord, and he will have mercy on him, and to our God: for he is bountiful to forgive. [8] For my thoughts are not your thoughts: nor your ways my ways, saith the Lord. [9] For as the heavens are exalted above the earth, so are my ways exalted above your ways, and my thoughts above your thoughts"

So YES, do pray for that soul. No prayers goes to waste.

GBY

PJM
 
We ultimately do not know who is saved and who is not saved. Edit: EXCEPT FOR RECOGNIZED SAINTS!!
If the soul is not in purgatory it has been said that it will apply to a soul that is.

If he is in purgatory he will probably need much prayer as protestant friends probably won’t pray for him.
 
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SOURCE: Decrees of the Ecumenical Councils, Vol. 1, p. 578; Denzinger 714

"Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441, ex cathedra:

The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives; that the unity of this ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only for those who abide in it do the Church’s sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militia produce eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.
 
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You’d be surprised how many people seem to believe they are the mouthpiece of God. Few quotations and they are good to go apparently :rollseyes:

As sovereign of heaven, God alone decides the fate of all those passed. Play judge at your peril. They who judge, will surely receive the same in kind.

Assuming your place in heaven is assured because you think you know best. Is a sure path to being ejected downstairs, at such a velocity, you’d make lucifer blush with envy.

Mayhap people should leave deciding peoples eternity to the omnipotent.
 
I don’t think that’s ex cathedra…

And I recall the context of the Council was pretty important.
 
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