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Della
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Yes indeed. I’m glad you agree.
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rpp
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So many women are commenting about buying diamonds. I have never actually seen a woman pay for a diamond.
Where are the men?
So many women are commenting about buying diamonds. I have never actually seen a woman pay for a diamond.
Where are the men?
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melensdad
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I’m sorry, I don’t get it. Maybe I am thick? But I am aware of the whole issue of blood diamonds. You cited 3 references above. They illustated that people are working on the problem. But you seem to simply dismiss ALL diamonds because of the problems associated with SOME of them. Am I misreading your posts?
So let me pose this all differently, because SOME oil comes from nations that support abortion (Canada & Norway), the slave trade (Saudi Arabia) and terrorism (too many to list) does that make it immoral to use oil from ANY nation?
That is in line with my points above. SOME things are helping to exploit people while OTHER identical things may be created without exploitation. Is it wrong to support those that are not exploited because a small percentage are?
I’ve now posted twice in this thread. I am the “husband” in the “for better or worse . . .” relationship.:idea:
So many women are commenting about buying diamonds. I have never actually seen a woman pay for a diamond.
Where are the men?
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mercygate
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That’s what I was getting at about the ivory. Because poachers are decimating the elephant population, it is felt that even legitimate ivory must be kept off the market. Maybe I’m naive, but it would seem that the legitimate ivory (diamonds) would be all the more appealing because you KNOW you’re not part of the problem.
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melensdad
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Ahhh. . . but there is a big difference.
LEGITIMATE ivory is actually very scarce in comparision to LEGITIMATE diamonds. Further the trade in legitimate diamonds does not legitimize a market for illegal diamonds. On the other hand, ivory trading is pretty universally illegal. The ‘blood’ diamonds are actually illegal in some nations, they are also a small portion of the legal trade. The legal trade of diamonds is commonly accepted but not so in ivory. Further, ivory is not able to be chemically tested to determine if it is from a ‘legal’ or ‘illegal’ source but it is possible to tell at least some diamonds sources.
Again, legitimate jewelers will provide proof of origin of the diamond you buy. Legitimate jewelers will not even trade in ‘blood’ diamonds.
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Jay2
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Would this conversation even exist if it was about cornflakes??
Hundreds of farmers lose everything every year due to drought, storms or accidents…
Corn is a commodity the same as diamonds or gold, but no-one wears a kernel on their finger.
I don’t think the question should be “Is it immoral to wear diamonds”…
It should be “Is it crass/crude/obnoxious/immoral to wear a rock the size of an ice-cube on my finger… or a length of stones worth two years average income around my neck…” Enter the “BLING” era! For cryin’ out loud people are having their TEETH modified with gold & gemstones just to have a “Bychin’ Grille”…
Having a few pieces of “fine” jewelry a few generations ago (meaning a nice diamond wedding band, and maybe some earrings or a broach) meant that you were stable, successful, and settled… and people were proud & respectful of the effort it took to have these little “indulgences”… and they were looked upon as investments, and something that could be handed down to future generations.
(In our safe-deposit box right now is both my Grandmother’s wedding bands, and some earrings… waiting. Maybe when the time comes they’ll go to my daughter or son)
My read on it is that the OP has a dilemma about wearing something that could be considered boastful or braggish… it’s up to them to decide what would be proper for them.
(If anyone is having serious undue stress about their gemstones, how they were procured, or their morality drop me an email, and I’ll give you my home address - you can mail them to me and I’ll put them (their value) to good use… I’ll have two kids in college in about 5 years…
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Hundreds of farmers lose everything every year due to drought, storms or accidents…
Corn is a commodity the same as diamonds or gold, but no-one wears a kernel on their finger.
I don’t think the question should be “Is it immoral to wear diamonds”…
It should be “Is it crass/crude/obnoxious/immoral to wear a rock the size of an ice-cube on my finger… or a length of stones worth two years average income around my neck…” Enter the “BLING” era! For cryin’ out loud people are having their TEETH modified with gold & gemstones just to have a “Bychin’ Grille”…
Having a few pieces of “fine” jewelry a few generations ago (meaning a nice diamond wedding band, and maybe some earrings or a broach) meant that you were stable, successful, and settled… and people were proud & respectful of the effort it took to have these little “indulgences”… and they were looked upon as investments, and something that could be handed down to future generations.
(In our safe-deposit box right now is both my Grandmother’s wedding bands, and some earrings… waiting. Maybe when the time comes they’ll go to my daughter or son)
My read on it is that the OP has a dilemma about wearing something that could be considered boastful or braggish… it’s up to them to decide what would be proper for them.
(If anyone is having serious undue stress about their gemstones, how they were procured, or their morality drop me an email, and I’ll give you my home address - you can mail them to me and I’ll put them (their value) to good use… I’ll have two kids in college in about 5 years…
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whatevergirl
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ha! Good points.Would this conversation even exist if it was about cornflakes??
Hundreds of farmers lose everything every year due to drought, storms or accidents…
Corn is a commodity the same as diamonds or gold, but no-one wears a kernel on their finger.
I don’t think the question should be “Is it immoral to wear diamonds”…
It should be “Is it crass/crude/obnoxious/immoral to wear a rock the size of an ice-cube on my finger… or a length of stones worth two years average income around my neck…” Enter the “BLING” era! For cryin’ out loud people are having their TEETH modified with gold & gemstones just to have a “Bychin’ Grille”…
Having a few pieces of “fine” jewelry a few generations ago (meaning a nice diamond wedding band, and maybe some earrings or a broach) meant that you were stable, successful, and settled… and people were proud & respectful of the effort it took to have these little “indulgences”… and they were looked upon as investments, and something that could be handed down to future generations.
(In our safe-deposit box right now is both my Grandmother’s wedding bands, and some earrings… waiting. Maybe when the time comes they’ll go to my daughter or son)
My read on it is that the OP has a dilemma about wearing something that could be considered boastful or braggish… it’s up to them to decide what would be proper for them.
(If anyone is having serious undue stress about their gemstones, how they were procured, or their morality drop me an email, and I’ll give you my home address - you can mail them to me and I’ll put them (their value) to good use… I’ll have two kids in college in about 5 years…
I never really gave much thought to the morality of wearing or not wearing designer clothes, diamonds…carrying designer handbags…I grew up in a household, where all of these things/items were bought…and I think to a degree, people buying them in my family, felt ‘better’ about themselves. Now, that is where the rubber meets the road, so to speak. I think if we look for our value in what we own, or our accomplishments, to attain x y or z…then that is where it can become immoral to keep seeking or chasing after the next gem, so to speak.
For me, I love diamonds. I like to wear pretty jewelry…and I like the symbolism behind some of my jewelry…marking 10th anniversary or a Mother’s Day…or whatever. For me, it is sentimental. I did lose my original engagement ring
, and then my dh bought a new one for me…but it’s never been the same. Pretty diamond setting, but never been the same. For me, it’s sentimental, that brings a piece value, to me.But, I do like that past, present and future ring…and if I can find a pretty ‘replica,’ maybe I will do that. To drop $4k on a ring? It seems…not immoral…but decadent in a way that I am not sure how to justify it, really. I was reading an article the other day (I have rings on my mind I guess) talking about the cost of some celebs rings…$300,000 for a ring from Tiffany’s, wore Reese Witherspoon…what?? I could not justify such decadence, personally…and that doesn’t make me better or more moral…just something that I would not be able to reconcile, when I could write a check and send that to a need Catholic charity or something…
Thanks for your post, Jay.
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whatevergirl
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Blood diamonds??? What does this mean?
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whatevergirl
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Has anyone here ever bought a ‘faux’ diamond…one that looks believeable…or anything from QVC?
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whatevergirl
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I too like diamonds…I really think that wearing a diamond e-ring, is such a beautiful thing…It’s funny, I had never ever heard anyone refer to wearing diamonds as ‘immoral,’ until that recent article I read…and to each’s own. But, she made some good points…that she wants to wear something pretty…something ‘engagement like,’ just not real diamonds. Interesting, no? I wish she had elaborated on why.
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Katie1723
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I have a three stone diamond ring, a diamond tennis bracelet and 2 pairs of diamond earrings…all bought and paid for by me. Last I knew, I was a woman.:idea:
So many women are commenting about buying diamonds. I have never actually seen a woman pay for a diamond.
Where are the men?
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whatevergirl
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:extrahappy: :yup: :clapping: you go girl!!
I buy myself jewelry on occasion…nothing wrong with that.
So…you have that past, present, future diamond ring, hmmm…kathy???
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Katie1723
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I have a past, live in the present, and hope to have a LONG future.:extrahappy: :yup: :clapping: you go girl!!
I buy myself jewelry on occasion…nothing wrong with that.
So…you have that past, present, future diamond ring, hmmm…kathy???
Kathy
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whatevergirl
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melensdad
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There are two fairly common terms used for diamonds that came from “illegitimate” sources. One of those terms is “blood” diamonds, the other is “conflict” diamonds.Blood diamonds??? What does this mean?
An “illegitimate” source would be a place like Sierra Leon where people are essentially enslaved and mistreated and/or work in conditions that are obviously unsafe. Mainstream diamond merchants, legitimate jewelry stores, DeBeers and others do everything in their power to NOT sell these diamonds.
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whatevergirl
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I truly had no idea…thank you for posting this for us.
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childofmary1143
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Obviously one should not buy a diamond from an illegitimate place. I think there is nothing inherently wrong with buying diamonds. One day I hope to buy a diamond engagement ring. I won’t spend the equivalent of a years salary of course but I will get a nice one.:idea:
So many women are commenting about buying diamonds. I have never actually seen a woman pay for a diamond.
Where are the men?
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jrabs
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Oh my mother bought me some fabulous earings from QVC several years ago and their diamonique line is absolutely amazing.
It is every bit as beautiful as the diamonds I have.
It is an affordable alternative. And no one can tell the difference if you keep within a certain range. Something you would wear without being garish.
Try the QVC if you are not intending the jewelry to be an heir loom.
In fact I do wear my dianomiques for casual wear too - and they look smashing. Fun and feminine.
Have fun and show us if you go that route
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Sina
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I have a Canadian diamond mined from the North West Territories on my engagement ring. Totally worth it. It costs maybe about 20% more than other diamonds. It comes with a certificate signed by the Premier of NWT and supports the mining industry up North. Check it out, I am sure they are available in the US too.
I wonder if the US has any diamond mines?
It costs maybe about 20% more than other diamonds. It comes with a certificate signed by the Premier of NWT and supports the mining industry up North. Check it out, I am sure they are available in the US too.I wonder if the US has any diamond mines?
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