Is It Morally Acceptable to Assault Someone at Mass???

[AlanFromWichita]

Genesis315:

I said other. I read about some dissenter (forget his name) who was denied Communion and then followed the priest into the sanctuary and attempted to take a host by force. I definitely would have used force to restrain that guy. Like Trelow said, if someone is trying to desecrate a host I would also not feel bad using force to stop them. Since these examples are more defense of another person, they would not actually be assault. Remember, Jesus was forceful with people doing what they shouldn’t be doing in the temple.

Why is it the Sermon on the Mount seems to be the last thing we want to actually try to incorporate?

“But I say to you, offer no resistance to one who is evil. When someone strikes you on (your) right cheek, turn the other one to him as well.”

Funny thing is practically every time we get into a situation where our Catholic sensibilities are offended, we throw Jesus’ teachings out the window. Either that, or we pick and choose some example that seems to support whatever worldly tack we want to take.

This is something I found all too real among my friends when I was working in the parish leadership. We use Jesus as an excuse, or a weapon, to justify what we want to do. We tend to get very angry and indignant and defensive when some fool like me suggests we actually look toward Christ’s teachings to determine how to handle a situation. Dealing with such hypocrites contributed greatly to my mental breakdown, as I just couldn’t reconcile these self-proclaimed people of God who not only ignore Christ’s teachings, but turn their anger against me for the mere suggestion that we consult Christ. Christ is great when we are worshipping Him and when he is doing invisible miracles such as transsubstantiation, but His teachings obviously don’t work in the “real world.”

Just make sure you ask Christ to look the other way when you assault another person ostensibly in His name, or you risk learning something about love.

Alan

P.S. to Genesis315, This venting is not directed toward you, so please don’t think I’m putting you down. Please forgive me for using a few “trigger words” in your article as a launching pad…

 

[springbreeze]

AlanFromWichita:

Why is it the Sermon on the Mount seems to be the last thing we want to actually try to incorporate?

Funny thing is practically every time we get into a situation where our Catholic sensibilities are offended, we throw Jesus’ teachings out the window. Either that, or we pick and choose some example that seems to support whatever worldly tack we want to take.

This is something I found all too real among my friends when I was working in the parish leadership. We use Jesus as an excuse, or a weapon, to justify what we want to do. We tend to get very angry and indignant and defensive when some fool like me suggests we actually look toward Christ’s teachings to determine how to handle a situation. Dealing with such hypocrites contributed greatly to my mental breakdown, as I just couldn’t reconcile these self-proclaimed people of God who not only ignore Christ’s teachings, but turn their anger against me for the mere suggestion that we consult Christ. Christ is great when we are worshipping Him and when he is doing invisible miracles such as transsubstantiation, but His teachings obviously don’t work in the “real world.”

Just make sure you ask Christ to look the other way when you assault another person ostensibly in His name, or you risk learning something about love.

Alan

P.S. to Genesis315, This venting is not directed toward you, so please don’t think I’m putting you down. Please forgive me for using a few “trigger words” in your article as a launching pad…

:tiphat: :clapping:

Dear Alan

Amazing what people will do with Christianity to suit their own wants and needs isn’t it? Twisting scripture to suit their efforts of hatred.

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa

 

[ThornGenX]

Perhaps I should have answered “other” but unless someone has been put in a position to have to defend themselves (sadly, sometimes people do get violent in church), I do not think assult is ever justified. In the case of disruption (blocking the communion line or harassing the priest or others in church), the offending person should be asked to leave then perhaps ejected in the most peaceful way possible (with the least amount of force it takes to stop the disruption).

Just my :twocents:

 

[felra]

AlanFromWichita:

Why is it the Sermon on the Mount seems to be the last thing we want to actually try to incorporate?

Funny thing is practically every time we get into a situation where our Catholic sensibilities are offended, we throw Jesus’ teachings out the window. Either that, or we pick and choose some example that seems to support whatever worldly tack we want to take.

This is something I found all too real among my friends when I was working in the parish leadership. We use Jesus as an excuse, or a weapon, to justify what we want to do. We tend to get very angry and indignant and defensive when some fool like me suggests we actually look toward Christ’s teachings to determine how to handle a situation. Dealing with such hypocrites contributed greatly to my mental breakdown, as I just couldn’t reconcile these self-proclaimed people of God who not only ignore Christ’s teachings, but turn their anger against me for the mere suggestion that we consult Christ. Christ is great when we are worshipping Him and when he is doing invisible miracles such as transsubstantiation, but His teachings obviously don’t work in the “real world.”

Just make sure you ask Christ to look the other way when you assault another person ostensibly in His name, or you risk learning something about love.

Alan

P.S. to Genesis315, This venting is not directed toward you, so please don’t think I’m putting you down. Please forgive me for using a few “trigger words” in your article as a launching pad…

 

[felra]

AlanFromWichita:

Why is it the Sermon on the Mount seems to be the last thing we want to actually try to incorporate?

Funny thing is practically every time we get into a situation where our Catholic sensibilities are offended, we throw Jesus’ teachings out the window. Either that, or we pick and choose some example that seems to support whatever worldly tack we want to take.

This is something I found all too real among my friends when I was working in the parish leadership. We use Jesus as an excuse, or a weapon, to justify what we want to do. We tend to get very angry and indignant and defensive when some fool like me suggests we actually look toward Christ’s teachings to determine how to handle a situation. Dealing with such hypocrites contributed greatly to my mental breakdown, as I just couldn’t reconcile these self-proclaimed people of God who not only ignore Christ’s teachings, but turn their anger against me for the mere suggestion that we consult Christ. Christ is great when we are worshipping Him and when he is doing invisible miracles such as transsubstantiation, but His teachings obviously don’t work in the “real world.”

Just make sure you ask Christ to look the other way when you assault another person ostensibly in His name, or you risk learning something about love.

Alan

P.S. to Genesis315, This venting is not directed toward you, so please don’t think I’m putting you down. Please forgive me for using a few “trigger words” in your article as a launching pad…

Sorry to hear of your unfortunate experience at the hands of uncharitable Christians. It seems too often, that “where two or more are gathered, out will come the good, the bad, and the ugly”. Musn’t take ourselves too seriously with our fallen human nature, but take Christ seriously. Even on this thread, how some point the finger while calling the kettle black with derogatory, sarcastic labelling in defense of their “charitable” position.

 

[Paul_Stephens]

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