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Say a priest is assigned as pastor in a parish, and he comes into an environment that is clearly obscenely rampant with liturgical abuse and comes close to even being sloppy with the sacred species, among other things, which was tolerated by the last pastor. Is he morally bound to forcefully correct all such abuses, even if it will cause upset to the parish?

Please note that I am not confronted with such a situation. I’ve just been thinking about it.
 
Say a priest is assigned as pastor in a parish, and he comes into an environment that is clearly obscenely rampant with liturgical abuse and comes close to even being sloppy with the sacred species, among other things, which was tolerated by the last pastor. Is he morally bound to forcefully correct all such abuses, even if it will cause upset to the parish?

Please note that I am not confronted with such a situation. I’ve just been thinking about it.
I’ve been thinking about the same thing. Is it worth losing parishioners to correct abuses? Maybe in the end, it’ll make for a stronger parish…

Who knows?
 
What good is it to correct all Liturgical abuses and drive everyone away? You have a perfectly celebrated Liturgy in an empty Church.

Note that Eastern Catholics have a lot of experience in this. Trying to get rid of Latinizations is not overnight work. Our Eparchy is moving towards restoring the proper tradition of the Church but it is not an overnight process. Our bishop is doing an excellent job with the catechesis, but at the same time he is patient with everyone. He knows that just pushing things on everyone will drive them away. So he has catechesis programs so that people see the beauty of traditions first. So far everyone who has witnessed the traditions of our Church is very welcoming of those traditions. Too bad not everyone attends the catechsis though.

So the proper way to is do it in love and charity, even if it takes a long time. The purpose of everything is to open people’s hearts to God. Forcing things upon them, even though it is the right thing, will only push them away. It is doing the right thing the wrong way.
 
Say a priest is assigned as pastor in a parish, and he comes into an environment that is clearly obscenely rampant with liturgical abuse and comes close to even being sloppy with the sacred species, among other things, which was tolerated by the last pastor. Is he morally bound to forcefully correct all such abuses, even if it will cause upset to the parish?

Please note that I am not confronted with such a situation. I’ve just been thinking about it.
Absolutely. When it is his parish, he is responsible for what is being done there. He can’t let things be, when he knows it is “clearly rampant with liturgical abuse”. His role is to teach, to sanctify, and to govern. Governing means he is in charge.
 
Absolutely. When it is his parish, he is responsible for what is being done there. He can’t let things be, when he knows it is “clearly rampant with liturgical abuse”. His role is to teach, to sanctify, and to govern. Governing means he is in charge.
Being in charge doesn’t mean you get to act like a dictator.
 
Being in charge doesn’t mean you get to act like a dictator.
“The laity should, as all Christians, promptly accept in Christian obedience decisions of their spiritual
shepherds, since they are representatives of Christ as well as teachers and rulers in the Church. Let them
follow the example of Christ, who by His obedience even unto death, opened to all men the blessed way
of the liberty of the children of God. Nor should they omit to pray for those placed over them, for they
keep watch as having to render an account of their souls, so that they may do this with joy and not with
grief .” Lumen Gentium, 37
 
Say a priest is assigned as pastor in a parish, and he comes into an environment that is clearly obscenely rampant with liturgical abuse and comes close to even being sloppy with the sacred species, among other things, which was tolerated by the last pastor. Is he morally bound to forcefully correct all such abuses, even if it will cause upset to the parish?

Please note that I am not confronted with such a situation. I’ve just been thinking about it.
I would have thought that this sort of question is obvious! It is his duty to stop such sacrilege!

Doing nothing to stop ‘obscenenely rampant liturgical abuse’ and irreverence for the Sacred Species, while having the power to do so, is the sin of omission.
 
“The laity should, as all Christians, promptly accept in Christian obedience decisions of their spiritual
shepherds, since they are representatives of Christ as well as teachers and rulers in the Church. Let them
follow the example of Christ, who by His obedience even unto death, opened to all men the blessed way
of the liberty of the children of God. Nor should they omit to pray for those placed over them, for they
keep watch as having to render an account of their souls, so that they may do this with joy and not with
grief .” Lumen Gentium, 37
And a priest/bishop should also always act in charity.
 
Ecclesiae de mysterio
Where the existence of abuses or improper practices has been proved, Pastors will promptly employ those means judged necessary to prevent their dissemination and to ensure that the correct understanding of the Church’s nature is not impaired. In particular, they will apply the established disciplinary norms to promote knowledge of and assiduous respect for that distinction and complementarity of functions which are vital for ecclesial communion. Where abusive practices have become widespread, it is absolutely necessary for those who exercise authority to intervene responsibly so as to promote communion which can only be done by adherence to the truth. Communion, truth, justice, peace and charity are all interdependent terms.(52)
 
I would have thought that this sort of question is obvious! It is his duty to stop such sacrilege!

Doing nothing to stop ‘obscenenely rampant liturgical abuse’ and irreverence for the Sacred Species, while having the power to do so, is the sin of omission.
Well, yes, that is the line of thought that I have been following.

Now, further.

Can it be said to be a sin against charity to enforce the liturgical norms and rubrics, taking care to explain what is happening, even if it is done abruptly? It is often implied that it is. However, I feel that charity demands respect for liturgical norms and rubrics. More basically, I feel it is one of the highest forms of charity to correct error.

Even more basically, why is it often implied that enforcing any rule at all, no matter the level of kindly countenance and respectfulness of the enforcer, is “uncharitable?”
 
Well, yes, that is the line of thought that I have been following.

Now, further.

Can it be said to be a sin against charity to enforce the liturgical norms and rubrics, taking care to explain what is happening, even if it is done abruptly? It is often implied that it is. However, I feel that charity demands respect for liturgical norms and rubrics. More basically, I feel it is one of the highest forms of charity to correct error.

Even more basically, why is it often implied that enforcing any rule at all, no matter the level of kindly countenance and respectfulness of the enforcer, is “uncharitable?”
Because liberals have hijacked the word “charitable” to mean being “nice” in all circumstances, never enforcing rules or condemning error because it “isn’t nice”, or it’s “judgmental”.

Your feelings are quite right, friend.
 
Of course in charity, as any Father is called to act in.
I was going to say the same thing. That is why priests are called Father. Fathers are firm but sensitive. They know what is right and should work towards it, but not in a way that they push and shove their children into it. As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, there should be a gradual change to it in a way that people are made to understand. Not in a way that everything is enforced and fosters resentment rather than loving acceptance.
 
Say a priest is assigned as pastor in a parish, and he comes into an environment that is clearly obscenely rampant with liturgical abuse and comes close to even being sloppy with the sacred species, among other things, which was tolerated by the last pastor. Is he morally bound to forcefully correct all such abuses, even if it will cause upset to the parish?

Please note that I am not confronted with such a situation. I’ve just been thinking about it.
I think he is, but a ton of care has to be taken to ensure that no parishioners’ feelings are hurt.

One technique is to defer blame: It’s not my fault that the rules are like this but I’m just doing my job. Problem with this technique is that it would be as if you’re blaming the Vatican for the rule – and you create a whole nother problem there. It enforces the “those guys in Rome are so rigid” mentality. In such a case, I’d rather absorb the blame myself than pass it on to them.

Best thing for him to do in such a case is explain why the abuse is problematic, and never to say “You are doing this wrong” but instead “I think we need to work on this.” As its pastor, indeed, he should consider himself as one of them; plus saying “we” takes the edge off and doesn’t make it look like finger pointing.

I can give a good example. At my parish, they used to have chalices made of glass, which is an abuse. Say that those chalices were a present from a parishioner and weren’t cheap. The pastor might thing, heck, nobody knows it’s against the rules anyway (I even saw video footage of a Mass with Cardinal Mahoney and he was consecrating with a glass chalice). In some countries, people might be sensitive to the point where they’d feel slighted and hurt that their gift wasn’t used. A lot of care has to be taken to deal with it. But you gotta do what you gotta do and switch to the correct vessels. The priest needs to work humbly and caringly to explain why it can’t be used.

Unfortunately that doesn’t always work out. Oftentimes the priest is aloof and frankly needs better people skills, so the message isn’t conveyed correctly. Being a priest is very much a political job, in the broadest sense of the word. And frankly not everyone is born with the interpersonal skills to be able to do it well. Last month or so, I read an article about how a big chunk of people who leave Catholicism cite how the priests are aloof. We all know at least one priest who you can call aloof.

Do seminaries need to train priests on interpersonal skills too? We’re in the age where businessmen do it at seminars. Why not have the same sort of thing for seminarians and priests? Should Dale Carnegie be part of the reading list? Not a bad idea, I think.

But you came onto a very real problem here: People don’t understand why the Liturgy is the way it is. We have a lot of rules, but the rules become useless when the reasoning for them isn’t understood. On the glass chalices rule, for example, most people don’t know about it much less the reasoning for it. Our pastors do need to do a better job at this. Perhaps the resources are already out there to learn, but your average Catholic won’t go that far out of his way to comprehend the liturgy and wouldn’t even know where to look. In such cases, the priest has to bring the message to them, rather than expecting them to find it on their own, because they’re not even that likely to look for it anyway.
 
Bottom line is that if there is a negligent handling of the Sacred Species you sort it out very quickly regardless of protecting people’s feelings. If the Bishop of Rome himself endangered the Blessed Sacrament you stop him.

Liturgical abuse is not healthy for the life of the Church. It must be opposed. But that can come slower. The ideal is to take the parish along with you. You don’t want to leave them in the dust.

There is an obligation to correct liturgical abuse. There’s no obligation to celebrate a Solemn High Mass (1962) on day one.
 
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