Is it ok not to give alms to street children inside the Church?

[JRS_88]

A couple of points:

+A legitimate charity does not satisfy the immediate needs of a poor person.

Two words Catholic Charities. I’ve been there and saw people being fed, mothers getting formula and families picking up groceries. In fact, in one mans case, he went from walking in the door to eating a sandwich in about 15 minutes.

So, I have a problem with such a broad assertion that a legitimate charity does not satisfy the immediate needs of a poor person.

 

[Sarcelle]

A couple of points:

+A legitimate charity does not satisfy the immediate needs of a poor person.
+We often claim a legitimate charity is better, but few get around to donating to one
+Discernment and prudence can show us the face of Christ in even those least likely to be Christ like.
+Jesus also said, "‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me. And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Giving to a begging kingpin does not immediately solve the immediate needs of a street child now does it? In fact the more people give, the more you satisfy the kingpin. An orphanage can take the child out of the street and stop the child’s exploitation.

I claim a legitimate charity is better because I give to a legitimate charity. I also give to people who ask on the street.

I do not see the point of telling me I will go to hell just because I donate differently than how you see fit.

 

[pianistclare]

Who said you were going to hell? I can’t find that anywhere.
Also, who said anything about a beggars kingpin?
That was not in the OP.

 

[Sarcelle]

Who said you were going to hell? I can’t find that anywhere.
Also, who said anything about a beggars kingpin?
That was not in the OP.

My post was in response to Neofight.

He mentioned going to hell. He also mentioned that people who talk about donating to charities do not do actually do it. Well, I do.

As for a begging kingpin, it is common knowledge that in some third world countries begging syndicates exists that use street children.

I used to live in a third world country. I have seen this racket first hand. A lot of kingpins will not hesitate to sell children to visiting pedophiles from first world countries. Catholic Charities is involved in getting these street children out of the clutches of these kingpins. This is why I would rather donate to charities.

How do I know? My mother was friends with nuns who worked on rescuing these kids. They were also the ones who cautioned my mom on giving these kids money, as the money will just end up with an adult who is running the begging operation.

 

[Neofight]

My post was in response to Neofight.

[So, let me address your post, Sarcelle./COLOR]

He mentioned going to hell. Christ mentioned going to hell in what I quoted; I did not mention you going to hell He also mentioned that people who talk about donating to charities do not do actually do it. Well, I do. I didn’t say all people ( I said “few”), nor did I single you, my exact words were “we” which includes me, so there is no need for self-righteous indignation…

As for a begging kingpin, it is common knowledge that in some third world countries begging syndicates exists that use street children.“common knowledge” is often neither an example of something that is “common” or “knowledge”

I used to live in a third world country. I have seen this racket first hand. A lot of kingpins will not hesitate to sell children to visiting pedophiles from first world countries. I too have lived in third world countries, and, okay, I’ll accept your assessment that “a lot”, but certainly not allCatholic Charities is involved in getting these street children out of the clutches of these kingpins. Indeed, and bless them…my opinion is that we cannot assume without full knowledge the (lack of) needs of a child asking for alms, and we are called as Christians to give alms unconditionally…God will deal with those who might be exploiting other peopleThis is why I would rather donate to charities.Fair enough, but to imply that your way is the correct way makes you guilty of exactly what you are accusing me of.

How do I know? My mother was friends with nuns who worked on rescuing these kids. They were also the ones who cautioned my mom on giving these kids money, “these kids” is subjective…if the nuns were talking of kids who were being exploited by “kingpins”, they have a point, but anyone concluding this to mean we should not give to any because they "might be exploited have morally erred, in my opinion.as the money will just end up with an adult who is running the begging operation.

The real reason we see people begging at Catholic Churches is because they know the love of Christians, not that they are foolish with their money.