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…voting? I’ve been doing a lot of think about the potential candidates and I’m at a loss. I don’t vote democratic because of the abortion platform. And I don’t want to vote republican because of war issues. I would appreciate your (name removed by moderator)ut.
 
Have you considered looking into third part options? That was, at least you would be voicing your opinion. My husband and I nearly always vote for a third party who actually represents what we believe in. For example, we have voted “Constitution Party” in the last presidential election.
 
I’ve been wondering lately what I’m going to do in the next election. As someone who’s voted Republican for as long as I’ve been able to vote, I absolutely refuse to vote for any more pro-war Republicans. That leaves me with a few choices:

A) Vote for a Democrat who most likely supports abortion.

B) Write in Sparky the Dog or vote for some third-party candidate who’s no more likely to win than Sparky.

C) Not vote.

Option A is a bit unsettling since I view abortion as the defining moral issue of our time. One could argue that since abortion is going to stay legal no matter who wins, voting for an anti-war Democrat has the effect of saving lives.

Options B and C have basically the same effect. I don’t like the idea of not voting, but that may be the way I end up going.
 
I will most likely vote Green party. I’m sick of choosing lesser evils that still make me ill. I refuse to support someone in the hopes that they’ll toss a crumb my way.
 
How about a good write in… If we could get all of CA to vote for say… Santorum or Condi… oh the thought!!!
 
My college politics teacher once said that Authoritarian goverments happen when the people are not willing to make a decision for themselves. By not voting you are hindering the democracy in this country. There will never be a perfect candidate for everyone. You must make comprimise with yourself. Which issue is most relevent not to you personally but to your country as a whole. Unless something darastic changes before the next presidential election I will vote for the candidate that wants to end the war in Iraq. Enough soldiers have died. For me right now I find that more important then the other issues. We cannot have everything we must comprimise. By not voting you have no say and cannot comlain about whomever is elected and the choices they make while in office. legally, yes you can choose not to vote, but it seems like a rediculous option if you ever want anything to change.
 
Has anyone acutually ever heard a demacrat say they support abortion? Have you been watching how many people have been dieing in Iraq? Demacrates don’t send women to get abortions. Its a horrible choice they make. But they make it with Gods gift of free will. Jesus led by example baby, not stone throwing. As a nation we are killing for oil, we are using up the natural resources of the whole planet, not the mention the poverty that is caused in the majority of the world by are wanten consumerism. Unlike your mind from the silly tricks of cookie cutter chrisitians that like to keep you voting for Republicans with over used prattle about a God they only know how to talk about, but sure as heck don’t understand. Vote for peace, equality, and understanding. Then maybe we can help women out of the desperate whole they must be in when they make that awful choice to kill their unborn child.
 
Has anyone acutually ever heard a demacrat say they support abortion? Have you been watching how many people have been dieing in Iraq?
OMGosh…do you know how many babies die each year from abortion? BTW… All of our armed forces are volunteer, nobody is forced to join the military.
Demacrates don’t send women to get abortions. Its a horrible choice they make. But they make it with Gods gift of free will. Jesus led by example baby, not stone throwing.
By not fighting against abortion you are actually guilty of not protecting an innocent life that can’t fight for him/herself. How about all the propoganda that has polluted our culture? Teaching women that it is their choice without regards for the baby that is growing within them or the man who fathered that baby.
As a nation we are killing for oil, we are using up the natural resources of the whole planet, not the mention the poverty that is caused in the majority of the world by are wanten consumerism.
We are not killing for OIL!!! Do some research…biofuels are becoming cheaper and easier to produce everyday. I would also like to point out that our consumerism has brought 3rd world nations up to first world status by producing goods that we purchase. BTW… Global Warming is a HOAX too!!!
Unlike your mind from the silly tricks of cookie cutter chrisitians that like to keep you voting for Republicans with over used prattle about a God they only know how to talk about, but sure as heck don’t understand. Vote for peace, equality, and understanding. Then maybe we can help women out of the desperate whole they must be in when they make that awful choice to kill their unborn child.
Explain to me the peace and equality that comes from 1. Killing our pre-born and 2. Letting terrorists have free reign to kill our people because they don’t like our religion or way of life? I understand enough to know that when we become callous about killing our young and ambivilant about terrorists attacking us, we have lost all chance of leading a peaceful life.

I think you are sadly misinformed and have no sense of priorities. At least our soldiers are 18 and can choose for themselves… when was the last time a pre-born child was given the same consideration?
 
In the last 40 years or so the Democratic party has been associated with being socialy permissive, while the Republican party has been associated with being more limiting and religious. I don’t realy care much about either party’s economic platform as much as where they stand with social legislation, even though I think one is slightly in error and connected to the social permissiveness when taken much further than it already has been taken. The rights of the unborn child stand above all other issues, none other results in the death of so many innocent lives. The deaths in Iraq are nothing in number to the deaths caused by abortions, not to mention that Iraq could be argued as a moral obligation to attend to if you consider Saddam (not to mention other places in the world). Ask yourselves if you support our action in any war in our history, and if so, compare it to this one. The issue of abortion is not merely some slight moral problem that women choose, it is a massive genocide!

I would agree republicans need to toughen up on anti-abortion, but if you look at anything that has been done to help stop it in anyway, it almost all comes from the right, but if you get a strong anti-abortion democrat, I would vote for them anyday over a socialy liberal republican like Giuliani. Just pray you have someone on the ballot who is pro-life.
 
I’ve been wondering lately what I’m going to do in the next election. As someone who’s voted Republican for as long as I’ve been able to vote, I absolutely refuse to vote for any more pro-war Republicans. That leaves me with a few choices:

A) Vote for a Democrat who most likely supports abortion.

B) Write in Sparky the Dog or vote for some third-party candidate who’s no more likely to win than Sparky.

C) Not vote.

Option A is a bit unsettling since I view abortion as the defining moral issue of our time. One could argue that since abortion is going to stay legal no matter who wins, voting for an anti-war Democrat has the effect of saving lives.

Options B and C have basically the same effect. I don’t like the idea of not voting, but that may be the way I end up going.
No. B shows that you don’t like any of the candidates. C will be interpreted that you were too lazy to vote. Go for B and use Pro-Life Rita rather than Sparky the Dog.
 
CNN says 3,160 American soldiers have died in Iraq to date. There are 1.37 MILLION abortions a year in the US, that is approximately 3,700 per day. So, just so we are clear, there were more innocent babies murdered TODAY, than brave, willing soldiers during the entire war thus far.

These men died willingly to protect their country and if nothing else brought Saddam Hussein to justice. Here is an exert on Saddam’s reign,

"Under Saddam’s regime many hundreds of thousands of people have died as a result of his actions - the vast majority of them Muslims.

According to a 2001 Amnesty International report, “victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings and electric shocks… some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage.”

Saddam has had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered.

Allegations of prostitution used to intimidate opponents of the regime, have been used by the regime to justify the barbaric beheading of women.

Documented chemical attacks by the regime, from 1983 to 1988, resulted in some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.

Saddam Hussein’s regime has carried out frequent summary executions, including:

4,000 prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in 1984;
3,000 prisoners at the Mahjar prison from 1993-1998;
2,500 prisoners were executed between 1997-1999 in a “prison cleansing campaign;”
122 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in February/March 2000;
23 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in October 2001; and
At least 130 Iraqi women were beheaded between June 2000 and April 2001."

The artical goes on and on.
 
OMGosh…do you know how many babies die each year from abortion? BTW… All of our armed forces are volunteer, nobody is forced to join the military.By not fighting against abortion you are actually guilty of not protecting an innocent life that can’t fight for him/herself. How about all the propoganda that has polluted our culture? Teaching women that it is their choice without regards for the baby that is growing within them or the man who fathered that baby.We are not killing for OIL!!! Do some research…biofuels are becoming cheaper and easier to produce everyday. I would also like to point out that our consumerism has brought 3rd world nations up to first world status by producing goods that we purchase. BTW… Global Warming is a HOAX too!!! Explain to me the peace and equality that comes from 1. Killing our pre-born and 2. Letting terrorists have free reign to kill our people because they don’t like our religion or way of life? I understand enough to know that when we become callous about killing our young and ambivilant about terrorists attacking us, we have lost all chance of leading a peaceful life.

I think you are sadly misinformed and have no sense of priorities. At least our soldiers are 18 and can choose for themselves… when was the last time a pre-born child was given the same consideration?
What she said!👍
 
CNN says 3,160 American soldiers have died in Iraq to date. There are 1.37 MILLION abortions a year in the US, that is approximately 3,700 per day. So, just so we are clear, there were more innocent babies murdered TODAY, than brave, willing soldiers during the entire war thus far.

These men died willingly to protect their country and if nothing else brought Saddam Hussein to justice. Here is an exert on Saddam’s reign,

"Under Saddam’s regime many hundreds of thousands of people have died as a result of his actions - the vast majority of them Muslims.

According to a 2001 Amnesty International report, “victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings and electric shocks… some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage.”

Saddam has had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered.

Allegations of prostitution used to intimidate opponents of the regime, have been used by the regime to justify the barbaric beheading of women.

Documented chemical attacks by the regime, from 1983 to 1988, resulted in some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.

Saddam Hussein’s regime has carried out frequent summary executions, including:

4,000 prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in 1984;
3,000 prisoners at the Mahjar prison from 1993-1998;
2,500 prisoners were executed between 1997-1999 in a “prison cleansing campaign;”
122 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in February/March 2000;
23 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in October 2001; and
At least 130 Iraqi women were beheaded between June 2000 and April 2001."

The artical goes on and on.
have you forgotten about innocent civilians that have been killed in the war?
 
Make the vote you cast be the one that is most likely to save the most lives, which means voting against abortion.

Unfortunately, that often means voting Republican, despite the fact that they disappoint on many issues.
 
I don’t think not voting is a moral option at all. Look at Portugal which is now hoping to have abortion legalised due to the low voter turn-out. You have a voice-don’t waste it- particularly if you are a woman.
At the last election *all *the candidates were pro-abortion, so I couldn’t in all good conscience vote for any of them. If they can’t recognise the fundamental right to life of all human beings, then I do not trust them to be able to make any other decision wisely.
I wrote “I cannot vote for any of these candidates, as they all support the killing of unborn children.” At the very least some people will have to read that, to check that it is spoiled, and a far better choice than throwing away my democratic right to be heard.
 
As far as I know it is our **moral obligation **to vote. I would suggest getting Catholic Answers “Voters Guide for Serious Catholics”
 
I had a friend who died in Iraq, I understand your predicament. What about the Constitution party? I think there is a fat chance they will win but your voice will be heard that you do not stand for abortion or this war in Iraq!
 
have you forgotten about innocent civilians that have been killed in the war?
The actual amount of civilian casualties is hard to estimate. Some sources say 10,000-20,000, while others suggest it could be close to 100,000. My point is not that these deaths mean nothing but rather that if you really had a pro-war/ pro-life candidate as opposed to a pro-abortion/anti-war candidate and your concern was loss of lives, clearly you would have to vote for the pro-life/pro-war candidate. Even 100,000 over the entire war is nothing compared to the 1.37MILLION babies killed each year. If Saddam had stayed in power how many innocent lives would have been lost anyway?
 
The actual amount of civilian casualties is hard to estimate. Some sources say 10,000-20,000, while others suggest it could be close to 100,000. My point is not that these deaths mean nothing but rather that if you really had a pro-war/ pro-life candidate as opposed to a pro-abortion/anti-war candidate and your concern was loss of lives, clearly you would have to vote for the pro-life/pro-war candidate. Even 100,000 over the entire war is nothing compared to the 1.37MILLION babies killed each year. If Saddam had stayed in power how many innocent lives would have been lost anyway?
How many lives has Bush saved? Really, has he reduced abortions?

And, for the record, the United States supported Saddam until he invaded Kuwait. OMG THE US SUPPORTING EVIL DICTATORS WHO KILL AND TORTURE THEIR OWN PEOPLE? Yeah. That never happens.
 
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